Doug Adler, the absolute worst...

DRII · 10-12-2012, 04:02 PM

commentator.

Horrible!!!

and I'm thinking his colleagues feel nearly the same.

Gonzalito17 · 10-12-2012, 04:39 PM

This week a site did a feature about players discussing their favorite TV commentators. Adler was not mentioned :/

http://www.tennis-prose.com/articles...-commentators/

Players Talk About Their Favorite TV Tennis Commentators.43 Comments · Posted by Scoop Malinowski in Articles, Scoop · Edit
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Vince Spadea: “I like Patrick McEnroe and Luke Jensen. I like the former players. The guys who are young and hungry and excited about doing it. And they know the information and they know the players. And they get the inside scoop much easier than someone from a computer. I’m not trying to knock anyone who is doing that. I like to listen to people putting enthusiasm and personality into talking about tennis, not just about the exact match. Patrick is a very intelligent guy, been around a lot of years, obviously had a great career himself. He has a brother who is a legend. There’s so many aspects from tennis that he can kind of dig from. Luke is high energy. He’s inspiring. He comes up with little phrases, little nicknames, little inside stories about each player or certain individuals. He’s always been into participating and trying to inspire tennis fans and trying to grow the game. I like Chris Evert too. Articulate and smart and obviously a legend in her own right.”

James Blake: “Cliff Drysdale is my favorite. He’s the most underrated. Because he’s so good at kind of playing the straight man and like he doesn’t know what he’s talking about [smiles]. And if you really listen to him, you know he knows exactly what he’s talking about. And was one of the great players. And he has one of the great voices that can do anything with that voice. So he’s my favorite to listen to. He does a great job whether he’s teamed with Patrick McEnroe or whoever, he’s my favorite.”

Justin Gimelstob: “Patrick McEnroe. I think he does a great job with the combination of combining inside experience yet still being supportive of the players. And yet honest enough to give an honest critique. I think some of the commentators are too hard on the players. And some are too soft. But I think Patrick does a great combination.”

Scott Lipsky: “I like to listen to John McEnroe. I like both McEnroes, Patrick and John. I loved Bud Collins. They’re both kind of the same, kinda tell it like it is. Those two guys I really think are the best two.”

Ivan Ljubicic: “Patrick McEnroe and Cliff Drysdale, they’re pretty cool, I like them. And I like the guys from Eurosport as well, David Mercer and Frew McMillan. You can see they play tennis and know a lot about tennis. And it’s a really relaxed feeling. They talk like they only commentate techniques or tactics. I have to say I don’t like Pam Shriver. She’s always so technique that it’s, I mean, it’s really boring. But the other guys, they know how to laugh, they know how to entertain people I think.”

Bob Bryan: “I like to listen to Jim Courier. He’s been there. He knows what he’s talking about. I think Pat Mac’s good. I like Cliff Drysdale. I think all the guys are pretty good. As long as they’re positive about tennis.”

Brian Baker: “I like John McEnroe a lot. And I think Patrick’s very good. Overall I think tennis is good right now, commentating. I really like Cliff and Patrick, they are always an excellent team and they compliment each other pretty good.”

Jonas Bjorkman: “John and Patrick McEnroe. They know the game very well and they know the players very well. They sort of know the weaknesses and strengths of the game. And the players. That’s important. Some guys who commentate are not down in the locker room and checking out things. Both of them are down here. They know a lot of the players still, even if they are not playing. So I think that’s a strength as a commentator. There’s a few out there who are very good. But those are the guys who I find are doing a good job.”

John Newcombe: “John McEnroe’s good when he doesn’t talk about everything besides the tennis match. When he sticks to the tennis match it’s pretty good. When he starts talking about everything else that’s important to him, I kind of lose it then. But when he’s talking about the match I think he has something good to say. I think Cliff Drysdale does a good job. And I like Jim Courier, I think he does a good job. I think his analysis of what’s happening out there is quite good. Tony Trabert I’ve always thought was great. I worked with him on CBS for ten years. And I’ve worked with him on Australian television for 12 years. I really enjoyed working with Tony.”

Greg Rusedski: “Whether you like him or whether you don’t, John McEnroe’s always interesting. He’s got a great knowledge of the game. Sometimes he’s fair with the players sometimes he’s not [smiles] but he’s always interesting. I think Patrick McEnroe does quite a good job as well. Patrick is quite interesting to listen to because he was never a top player like his brother John but he was quite astute and he did the best he could with the game he had and got to #30 in the world. He had to find different ways to win rather than pure talent and ability. So he’s got a different perspective on what it takes to succeed in tennis. He’s seen the top side of tennis but he’s also seen the side where the guys are struggling a little bit out there. So it’s nice to have the double perspective out there. Cliff Drysdale – his history of the game, his knowledge of the game. He’s been out there since when the players had their first union in 1973. He’s seen what tennis has become nowadays. So his knowledge of the game and his insights are quite good to have.”

Big_Dangerous · 10-12-2012, 04:41 PM

Yeah I don't care too much for Doug Adler, but he's tolerable when you combine him with the GOAT commentators in Robbie Koenig and Jason Goodall.

I don't understand why those two guys can't call the matches for every major tournament.

Gonzalito17 · 10-12-2012, 04:48 PM

Agree, Koenig and Goodall are the best, bar none.

THey need to be on major networks Right Now. I saw Koenig did some kind of ESPN work at the China tourney last week he was the guy calling the Djok dance during the trophy ceremony, on some kind of ESPN feed so hopefully he'll be on ESPN soon and bring in Goodall too.

Ronaldo · 10-12-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Dangerous

Yeah I don't care too much for Doug Adler, but he's tolerable when you combine him with the GOAT commentators in Robbie Koenig and Jason Goodall.

I don't understand why those two guys can't call the matches for every major tournament.

Need to add Donald Young and bring some youth to the mic. He is available most weeks.

Cup8489 · 10-12-2012, 05:03 PM

I miss TTC. Koenig and Goodall were just delights..

much better than Pmacs 'HELLO' every decent winner. And his talking about the most obvious crap (like claiming that Nadal electing to receive during the Fedal AO semifinal this year was mind games... when it's a well established fact that Federer ALWAYS serves first in Fedal matches since like 2005) is horrendous.

Ronaldo · 10-12-2012, 05:17 PM

Anyone care to mention what they dislike about Doug Adler? These are the guys commenting on WatchESPN and TTC.

DRII · 10-12-2012, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo

Anyone care to mention what they dislike about Doug Adler? These are the guys commenting on WatchESPN and TTC.

He just makes the most asinine comments and completely believes he's the most 'right' person in the world!

Gimelstob (sic) is similar but he's not nearly as dopey as Adler.

DRII · 10-12-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzalito17

Agree, Koenig and Goodall are the best, bar none.

THey need to be on major networks Right Now. I saw Koenig did some kind of ESPN work at the China tourney last week he was the guy calling the Djok dance during the trophy ceremony, on some kind of ESPN feed so hopefully he'll be on ESPN soon and bring in Goodall too.

Yes Koenig and Goodall are good, and their silence when Adler is talking speaks volumes!

I just know they are thinking, 'what an idiot'...

Lovely_Bone · 10-12-2012, 05:30 PM

I like the Macs, but they're only around during the slams

Ronaldo · 10-12-2012, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRII

Yes Koenig and Goodall are good, and their silence when Adler is talking speaks volumes!

I just know they are thinking, 'what an idiot'...

Must listen tomorrow during the semis if Adler is broadcasting.

Wuppy · 10-12-2012, 05:40 PM

I like him, so there.

kishnabe · 10-12-2012, 05:49 PM

Suprised no one thinks Darren Cahill is a good commentator.

I agree Adler is annoying and his voice is pitch higher than the other two. He interupts and ruins the majesticity of Federer shots.

When Wawrinka got that superb point in the tiebreak....Damm Adler ruined it with his squels.

Mustard · 10-12-2012, 06:18 PM

I'd like to mention Fred Stolle. It's always a pleasure to listen to him commentating, especially when he was with Cliff Drysdale and Mary Carillo on ESPN back in the day. It was bonkers to break up that team. Jim Courier and Mats Wilander are excellent commentators. There's Frew McMillan. There's John Barrett too. I miss his commentary since his retirement.

Mighty Matteo · 10-12-2012, 06:19 PM

Darren Cahill, Brad Gilbert and Cliff Drysdale are my 3 top choices. I like Johnny mac and jim courier, too but i dont like pat mac that much. he's pretty boring imo.

Mustard · 10-12-2012, 06:24 PM

I like Vijay Amritraj on Star Sports too. He's always a laugh

Ronaldo · 10-12-2012, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustard

I'd like to mention Fred Stolle. It's always a pleasure to listen to him commentating, especially when he was with Cliff Drysdale and Mary Carillo on ESPN back in the day. It was bonkers to break up that team. Jim Courier and Mats Wilander are excellent commentators. There's Frew McMillan. There's John Barrett too. I miss his commentary since his retirement.

John Barrett is the best.

15_ounce · 10-12-2012, 07:34 PM

I like Henri Leconte during AO. He is completely mental.

Tony48 · 10-12-2012, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kishnabe

Suprised no one thinks Darren Cahill is a good commentator.

I agree Adler is annoying and his voice is pitch higher than the other two. He interupts and ruins the majesticity of Federer shots.

When Wawrinka got that superb point in the tiebreak....Damm Adler ruined it with his squels.

EVERYONE thinks Cahill is a great commentator.

Ronaldo · 10-12-2012, 08:26 PM

Heard Jeff Tarango commentating, bring him back. Telecasts need an edge, even if its a razor's edge.

10-12-2012, 04:02 PM	#1
DRII Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,006	Doug Adler, the absolute worst... commentator. Horrible!!! and I'm thinking his colleagues feel nearly the same.

10-12-2012, 04:39 PM	#2
Gonzalito17 Professional Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 975	This week a site did a feature about players discussing their favorite TV commentators. Adler was not mentioned :/ http://www.tennis-prose.com/articles...-commentators/ Players Talk About Their Favorite TV Tennis Commentators.43 Comments · Posted by Scoop Malinowski in Articles, Scoop · Edit . Vince Spadea: “I like Patrick McEnroe and Luke Jensen. I like the former players. The guys who are young and hungry and excited about doing it. And they know the information and they know the players. And they get the inside scoop much easier than someone from a computer. I’m not trying to knock anyone who is doing that. I like to listen to people putting enthusiasm and personality into talking about tennis, not just about the exact match. Patrick is a very intelligent guy, been around a lot of years, obviously had a great career himself. He has a brother who is a legend. There’s so many aspects from tennis that he can kind of dig from. Luke is high energy. He’s inspiring. He comes up with little phrases, little nicknames, little inside stories about each player or certain individuals. He’s always been into participating and trying to inspire tennis fans and trying to grow the game. I like Chris Evert too. Articulate and smart and obviously a legend in her own right.” James Blake: “Cliff Drysdale is my favorite. He’s the most underrated. Because he’s so good at kind of playing the straight man and like he doesn’t know what he’s talking about [smiles]. And if you really listen to him, you know he knows exactly what he’s talking about. And was one of the great players. And he has one of the great voices that can do anything with that voice. So he’s my favorite to listen to. He does a great job whether he’s teamed with Patrick McEnroe or whoever, he’s my favorite.” Justin Gimelstob: “Patrick McEnroe. I think he does a great job with the combination of combining inside experience yet still being supportive of the players. And yet honest enough to give an honest critique. I think some of the commentators are too hard on the players. And some are too soft. But I think Patrick does a great combination.” Scott Lipsky: “I like to listen to John McEnroe. I like both McEnroes, Patrick and John. I loved Bud Collins. They’re both kind of the same, kinda tell it like it is. Those two guys I really think are the best two.” Ivan Ljubicic: “Patrick McEnroe and Cliff Drysdale, they’re pretty cool, I like them. And I like the guys from Eurosport as well, David Mercer and Frew McMillan. You can see they play tennis and know a lot about tennis. And it’s a really relaxed feeling. They talk like they only commentate techniques or tactics. I have to say I don’t like Pam Shriver. She’s always so technique that it’s, I mean, it’s really boring. But the other guys, they know how to laugh, they know how to entertain people I think.” Bob Bryan: “I like to listen to Jim Courier. He’s been there. He knows what he’s talking about. I think Pat Mac’s good. I like Cliff Drysdale. I think all the guys are pretty good. As long as they’re positive about tennis.” Brian Baker: “I like John McEnroe a lot. And I think Patrick’s very good. Overall I think tennis is good right now, commentating. I really like Cliff and Patrick, they are always an excellent team and they compliment each other pretty good.” Jonas Bjorkman: “John and Patrick McEnroe. They know the game very well and they know the players very well. They sort of know the weaknesses and strengths of the game. And the players. That’s important. Some guys who commentate are not down in the locker room and checking out things. Both of them are down here. They know a lot of the players still, even if they are not playing. So I think that’s a strength as a commentator. There’s a few out there who are very good. But those are the guys who I find are doing a good job.” John Newcombe: “John McEnroe’s good when he doesn’t talk about everything besides the tennis match. When he sticks to the tennis match it’s pretty good. When he starts talking about everything else that’s important to him, I kind of lose it then. But when he’s talking about the match I think he has something good to say. I think Cliff Drysdale does a good job. And I like Jim Courier, I think he does a good job. I think his analysis of what’s happening out there is quite good. Tony Trabert I’ve always thought was great. I worked with him on CBS for ten years. And I’ve worked with him on Australian television for 12 years. I really enjoyed working with Tony.” Greg Rusedski: “Whether you like him or whether you don’t, John McEnroe’s always interesting. He’s got a great knowledge of the game. Sometimes he’s fair with the players sometimes he’s not [smiles] but he’s always interesting. I think Patrick McEnroe does quite a good job as well. Patrick is quite interesting to listen to because he was never a top player like his brother John but he was quite astute and he did the best he could with the game he had and got to #30 in the world. He had to find different ways to win rather than pure talent and ability. So he’s got a different perspective on what it takes to succeed in tennis. He’s seen the top side of tennis but he’s also seen the side where the guys are struggling a little bit out there. So it’s nice to have the double perspective out there. Cliff Drysdale – his history of the game, his knowledge of the game. He’s been out there since when the players had their first union in 1973. He’s seen what tennis has become nowadays. So his knowledge of the game and his insights are quite good to have.” __________________ Dolgopolov Marcelo Rios Volkl Yonex NB atptour.com Guga Djokovic Radwanska Serena Bradenton Tennis-prose.com Woz Tomic BBaker Fred Perry Key Biscayne

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Gonzalito17 Professional Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 975	Agree, Koenig and Goodall are the best, bar none. THey need to be on major networks Right Now. I saw Koenig did some kind of ESPN work at the China tourney last week he was the guy calling the Djok dance during the trophy ceremony, on some kind of ESPN feed so hopefully he'll be on ESPN soon and bring in Goodall too. __________________ Dolgopolov Marcelo Rios Volkl Yonex NB atptour.com Guga Djokovic Radwanska Serena Bradenton Tennis-prose.com Woz Tomic BBaker Fred Perry Key Biscayne

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Cup8489 Legend Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Silvis, IL Posts: 8,061	I miss TTC. Koenig and Goodall were just delights.. much better than Pmacs 'HELLO' every decent winner. And his talking about the most obvious crap (like claiming that Nadal electing to receive during the Fedal AO semifinal this year was mind games... when it's a well established fact that Federer ALWAYS serves first in Fedal matches since like 2005) is horrendous. __________________ Allcourter. Tennis fan.

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Ronaldo G.O.A.T. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12,116	Anyone care to mention what they dislike about Doug Adler? These are the guys commenting on WatchESPN and TTC. __________________ LET US RUN WITH PATIENCE THE RACE THAT IS SET BEFORE US Last edited by Ronaldo : 10-12-2012 at 05:20 PM.

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Wuppy Professional Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 858	I like him, so there. __________________ "The Pusher" - my new ball machine idea. http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=6764523&postcount=1