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Old 10-11-2012, 07:50 PM   #3181
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I notice that you have the co focus cross at 9 lbs lower than the gut. How does it play and is there a purpose of doing that? Sorry, I am learning about gut now. Thanks!
As you can tell with what you've probably been reading, there are many methods to string a racket. I use a yonex and I prefer using percentages when taking an initial calculation on how to tension a hybrid. There are two percentages involved - 10% lower poly when compared to a multi or gut string and an additional 5% for the yonex isometric head shape that comes to a total of 15%. A gut main tension of 57 with a poly cross is 57*0.85 = 48.45 lbs. At the moment I have no real complaints about the string bed and these percentages are what I have always used in the yonex line.
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:56 PM   #3182
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I string my vcore 95d at 53/51 for what its worth. sadly though today's let down was my fault not the racquet or strings.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:37 PM   #3183
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As you can tell with what you've probably been reading, there are many methods to string a racket. I use a yonex and I prefer using percentages when taking an initial calculation on how to tension a hybrid. There are two percentages involved - 10% lower poly when compared to a multi or gut string and an additional 5% for the yonex isometric head shape that comes to a total of 15%. A gut main tension of 57 with a poly cross is 57*0.85 = 48.45 lbs. At the moment I have no real complaints about the string bed and these percentages are what I have always used in the yonex line.
I've read some where in this forum that poly string has the most trampoline effect at around 50-55 lbs. Do you have that same experience? Thanks!
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:00 PM   #3184
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I string my vcore 95d at 53/51 for what its worth. sadly though today's let down was my fault not the racquet or strings.
Dude what are you on about, you were hitting some nasty skidding slices. You made that kid in the dark green t-shirt (no idea what his name is, but he's a bigger guy) throw his racquet into the curtain because the slice skidded away from him so much haha. I shouldn't have laughed aloud at that...but I did. And did a few others
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:59 AM   #3185
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Dude what are you on about, you were hitting some nasty skidding slices. You made that kid in the dark green t-shirt (no idea what his name is, but he's a bigger guy) throw his racquet into the curtain because the slice skidded away from him so much haha. I shouldn't have laughed aloud at that...but I did. And did a few others
Love it when the big boys throw a tantrum because they can't "hulk-smash" something. Nicely done
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:20 AM   #3186
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Perfect description haha
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:40 AM   #3187
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I hit some semi decent shots, but I was making way to many UE last night, and that is not the way I like to play my game of tennis.

Lets talk strings though, I though that if you had huge differences in tension in the mains and in the crosses that it would warp the frame. Is that not true?
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:47 AM   #3188
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Key distinction: warp, or deform? Deform, yes. Warping is permanent deformation. I had a stringer in MA string my gut/poly which I typically do at 52/47 string it at 57/47. Within an hour I had it back at the pro shop to be re-done. I hit with that stick last night and it's fine. The warping issue really only occurs when you have an acute stress on the frame or a large amount of stress in one direction. For example, I bet you would warp the frame if you strung the mains only, and then unmounted the racquet to finish the crosses later. Someone like tennezsport, Irvin or drakulie would give a better answer.
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:51 AM   #3189
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I hit some semi decent shots, but I was making way to many UE last night, and that is not the way I like to play my game of tennis.

Lets talk strings though, I though that if you had huge differences in tension in the mains and in the crosses that it would warp the frame. Is that not true?
It depends on the types of string as well. I string the way I do because gut is elastic and poly is much stiffer. Because of this difference I can string the poly much lower than gut. I use percentages while others use a few lb differentials.

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Key distinction: warp, or deform? Deform, yes. Warping is permanent deformation. I had a stringer in MA string my gut/poly which I typically do at 52/47 string it at 57/47. Within an hour I had it back at the pro shop to be re-done. I hit with that stick last night and it's fine. The warping issue really only occurs when you have an acute stress on the frame or a large amount of stress in one direction. For example, I bet you would warp the frame if you strung the mains only, and then unmounted the racquet to finish the crosses later. Someone like tennezsport, Irvin or drakulie would give a better answer.
Are you acquainted with TennezSport? I actually just got home from a weekly visit to his shop and he's stringing his 98D with Alpha Vengeance at 44lbs mains and 40 crosses. He'd be much better at explaining the deformation of a racket than I can.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:02 AM   #3190
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I know him on this forum only and know that he's damn brilliant when it comes to equipment.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:20 AM   #3191
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Indeed. He's damn near an encyclopedia for tennis.
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Old 10-12-2012, 05:20 PM   #3192
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I am also considering a racquet switch. I am looking for something a touch lighter, and more HL. Although the AG100 fits the bill, it just doesn't feel quite there with my new strokes. A client of mine brought in a BLX 6.1 95 16x18. Just swinging it back and forth made me drool. Perfect weight, perfect balance. I need to find one of these frames to test, because unforutnately, Dunlop is not making a stick which has: >93sq", >=11.5oz unstrung, open pattern AND >=6pts HL. The 300 is too light unless you go for the closed pattern. I guess that's worth a shot though, but I just feel like I am losing a lot of RHS with my 200T and wouldn't lose much power if I did switch. Blah, I like strings since they're easy. Frames...hate playtesting.
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Old 10-12-2012, 05:51 PM   #3193
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Vcore 95d?

Maybe a Donnay pro one could fit the bill. Slightly larger head size but more closed than both the six one 95 and 4d 200t.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:19 PM   #3194
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seconded on 95d. good enough for hewitt and woz no?
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:47 AM   #3195
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Yeap, time for the 200T to see the door. Hit with rdis10093...who gave me a 95D to play with haha. It just seemed to click. The balls aren't as heavy, but I don't feel like I'm fighting to get into position to hit the perfect ball every time because otherwise, the frame's going to bite my rear. Since you can't have the perfect prep every time in a match situation, the weight has just become a liability now that I've switched my strokes. Blaaaah, racquet quest is on. Picked up a Prestige MP to demo since the local pro shop really only has Head and Babolat. Two problems: closed string pattern, and the most idiotic grommet setup in the world (cap grommets). Unless this thing is other worldly, I'm pretty sure I should've just left it there.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:58 AM   #3196
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I was a huge fan of the Wilson 95 16x18. I would gladly have switched, it just wasn't better than my apdgt's and I have to pay for my own rackets. I could easily have played with either though.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:42 AM   #3197
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Hah, I have to pay for mine too! This won't be an easy switch, and unless Dunlop can somehow save the day (bring back the HM300G!!!!!!!), 'tis adios to my favorite brand
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:42 AM   #3198
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Loving the spin, comfort and lower weight of the Exo Tour.
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:06 AM   #3199
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Hah, I have to pay for mine too!
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Teenagers don't exactly have money just laying around (then again neither do college students!)
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:18 AM   #3200
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Even though they said not to, I realllly want to restring this demo racquet. I mean, it's strung with God knows what nylon that's 500 years old and all notched up.
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