Boca Hp??

[BMC9670]

Of course this thread, like most these days, ends up in one of these "beat to death" debates...

1. Home schooling merits or non-merits
2. Who your kids can beat
3. TAUT merits or non-merits
4. BB's craziness and DB's results/prospects

Round and round we go...

[Tennishacker]

Originally Posted by cmb

the USTA is not supposed to care about education. They better not be wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars on kids to worry about weather they are educated enough. If I was Pmac, I wouldnt want them doing any school at all.

they are brought there to become tennis players, not to play school

Am I missing the humor in your post????

[coaching32yrs]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

TCF is spot on here , we have homeschool our player since 1st grade and he is quite the player but his most significant compliments have been his manners, his ability to hold great conversations with substance , has solid goals set up for now and the rest of his life, you find 2nd year college kids still looking for a major these day its the majority the others are usually set up for the family business .

Coach, it's good he is well mannered and can converse well. That is different from being well educated. I'm sure you realize that the average SAT score in the top high schools is around 2100. Specifically, Stuyvesant's "average" SAT score is 2090. From everything I have heard from college coaches, there is usually 1 or 2 home schooled tennis kids scoring at that level, usually a girl. When it comes to SAT scores kids home schooled for tennis cannot compete with the graduates of the top high schools.

[tennis5]

Originally Posted by TCF

By the way....think about what you said....2 hours a day for AP US history?
How will any student ever utilize that in any way, shape, or form?

The problem with the internet is that you don't know if the person is joking or being serious......
Every student who is a citizen of the United States should be taking AP US History ( APUSH).

Just to learn in depth about the

US Constitution and the important Supreme Court cases that have defined our country for starters.

[tennis5]

Originally Posted by TCF

There is more to it than just that. We like to travel, I do not want her acting like the other kids I see her age, I do not agree with traditional learning methods as being the best. By age 8-9 kids at schools are pigeon holed....you are a jock, you a nerd, you pretty, you the fat kid, you the braniac, you at this lunch table, you a cool kid, and on and on. I just am not into that whole scene.

Lots of reasons we homeschool. Its perfect for us.

Well, couple of thoughts:

One, your high school experience might not mirror her high school experience as you are not the same people.

Two, elementary school, the earlier grades, is where the kids learn to sit still.
Yes, it is a process. Most kids learn in nursery school, but it is never too late.

Three, if you are trying to avoid the mean girls who are into clothing, hanging out at the mall, and stealing each other boyfriends,
you should look into private schools, the most academic ones.
Some private schools have a dress code, but more importantly, they have a code of conduct.
You don't behave, you don't maintain a certain average, you are disrespectful, you are out.
No contract for the next year.
The private schools are not beholden to the student and the family, you are beholden to them.
And the girls won't have time to be mean to each other, they are too busy studying.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by coaching32yrs

Coach, it's good he is well mannered and can converse well. That is different from being well educated. I'm sure you realize that the average SAT score in the top high schools is around 2100. Specifically, Stuyvesant's "average" SAT score is 2090. From everything I have heard from college coaches, there is usually 1 or 2 home schooled tennis kids scoring at that level, usually a girl. When it comes to SAT scores kids home schooled for tennis cannot compete with the graduates of the top high schools.

I will be the 1st to tell I am not big on school and I am glad my player takes his time aboutg getting it done , having said that he just finished for a break and ended up holding a 3.9 that included 4 Ap courese and 2 other junk courses and his last 3 test score sent back were all above 90% .

But remember college is not the goal .

[Number1Coach]

Out of all the parents on here probably the only kid I would work with is TCF's not because I like him , I find him arrogant but everything he has said about the way he is raising his daughter is at the highest level and that is where its at, how they are progammed from the beginning "at home"and public school seems derail and program attitudes and other things we don't care for as parents .

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by TCF

To what end? If you think it is the moral obligation to learn about history, fine. But not to earn a living. This is an increasingly global economy and top money earners can be from any country and companies do business world wide. I doubt the connected Ivy Leaguers that run the economy give a dang about US history.

By the way....who decides how to present the history? For example, the 2000s can be presented is very different ways depending on the political bent of the professor.

TcF your dead wrong that's our problem history repeats itsself whether short term or long term and we don't learn from and our country is a disaster because of it ,example teenage pregnancy ! Don't want to get into it but think of history and all it contains we can learn from from the Romans to the Revevoltions that have taken place .

History is probably the most important subject for the world to learn from .

[Freak4tennis]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

Revevoltions that have taken place .

History is probably the most important subject for the world to learn from .

Excuse my confusion but what is a revevoltions (did I spell that right). I tried dictionary.com and came up with nothing.

[coaching32yrs]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

I will be the 1st to tell I am not big on school and I am glad my player takes his time aboutg getting it done , having said that he just finished for a break and ended up holding a 3.9 that included 4 Ap courese and 2 other junk courses and his last 3 test score sent back were all above 90% .

But remember college is not the goal .

Grades from a home school don't mean much. All the kids I have talked to are above a 3.5, many at 4.0. The key measure to compare is the SAT. The average home school score is 1065, math and reading. Stuyvesant 1400. Laurel Springs does not say what its average SAT is except to say it is over the national average. That is consistent with the 1065, which is over the national average. I believe most hp junior tennis players are bright and could attend a top high school and do well. My point is parents should recognize that when they home school for tennis in the preteen and teen years they are making a choice of tennis over academics. Not saying that is good or bad. Just that this is what the evidence says.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by coaching32yrs

Grades from a home school don't mean much. All the kids I have talked to are above a 3.5, many at 4.0. The key measure to compare is the SAT. The average home school score is 1065, math and reading. Stuyvesant 1400. Laurel Springs does not say what its average SAT is except to say it is over the national average. That is consistent with the 1065, which is over the national average. I believe most hp junior tennis players are bright and could attend a top high school and do well. My point is parents should recognize that when they home school for tennis in the preteen and teen years they are making a choice of tennis over academics. Not saying that is good or bad. Just that this is what the evidence says.

He did take a practice run for the heck of it and your correct his sore I believe was in the 2000 range but with more focus I am sure he could bump it up .

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by Freak4tennis

Excuse my confusion but what is a revevoltions (did I spell that right). I tried dictionary.com and came up with nothing.

The problem with higher learning they get caught up on spell check and show they have No problem solving answers to the question or its context.

[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by TCF

Thats the answer I expected. History is not repeating itself in regards to kids competing with engineers from India and China. History is not repeating itself in regards to hedge fund managers making billions making up pretend financial instruments.

Kids today do not have the chance for one spouse to work the other care for kids, make $40,000 yet buy a house for $50,000 and sell it for $250,000 and retire to FL. like grandpa did. To have large pensions, rely on SS as seniors. That history which pays the bills is not ever coming back.

Sorry, today's kids need to worry about the ever changing future, not the past.

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[Soianka]

Originally Posted by ga tennis

I'm not so sure about your last line. with me being an A.P. U.S History teacher I think it's very important to learn about the past and yes history does repeat itself just change around some names and really pay attention to how it's repeating itself constantly.

Awesome that you are a history teacher. My daughter took APUSH as a junior and really loved that class.

[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by Soianka

Awesome that you are a history teacher. My daughter took APUSH as a junior and really loved that class.

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[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

He did take a practice run for the heck of it and your correct his sore I believe was in the 2000 range but with more focus I am sure he could bump it up .

Uh huh... add this to the bullsh*t list just like everything else. So with all his other freakish athletic accomplishments that you like to tout, he also just "for the heck of it" has SAT scores good enough to get into Harvard or Yale? Oh, but college isn't the goal so don't take it officially. He's a prodigy and a genius and a freak athlete, and it's all because of you. Sure, Brad.

Here is a hint when exaggerating (read: lying): try and at least make your body of work within the realm of possibility.

[NLBwell]

From all accounts DB is a very bright kid. I'm assuming that the academics are taught more by his mom than his dad (based on spelling and word usage). No evidence to doubt that the kid can score high on test. Pound on his dad, but not the kid.

[coaching32yrs]

Originally Posted by ga tennis

I'm not so sure about your last line. with me being an A.P. U.S History teacher I think it's very important to learn about the past and yes history does repeat itself just change around some names and really pay attention to how it's repeating itself constantly.

Nice to hear you are a hs teacher. History is very important. Can't figure out a solution to pblms if we don't know what got us here. Also helps to know how the great leaders, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, Churchill, Roosevelt, thought and handled things.

[10ismom]

Originally Posted by ga tennis

If the USTA offered to let your child come and train for free would you let them go? I would have to say yes because of financial reasons. I would rather train full time with my daughters coach but financially my wife and i could not afford it. I know people talk bad about player development but if your child was given the chance to train there and everything was free would you say no?

Ga tennis,

Have you looked into the current coaches' situation at Boca? You probably saw the HP coach job posting on this board the other day.

I heard a couple of highly-ranked, pro-aspired juniors in our section who have got financial support from USTA to train with the current coaches, tournament fees, travel expense, etc. without moving to Boca. They have to play certain tourneys and occasionally go to Boca for training.
Your daughter just started to play USTA tourneys so might not be in that situation yet but it is worth exploring that alternate route....so she can continue with HW.

If you choose for her to go full time at Boca, will you or your wife move to be with her so could see her daily or at least every weekend? At 10, she is too young to be by herself IMO. Besides...I'm sure you could not live more than a few days without seeing her hit tennis ball...

[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by 10ismom

Ga tennis,

Have you looked into the current coaches' situation at Boca? You probably saw the HP coach job posting on this board the other day.

I heard a couple of highly-ranked, pro-aspired juniors in our section who have got financial support from USTA to train with the current coaches, tournament fees, travel expense, etc. without moving to Boca. They have to play certain tourneys and occasionally go to Boca for training.
Your daughter just started to play USTA tourneys so might not be in that situation yet but it is worth exploring that alternate route....so she can continue with HW.

If you choose for her to go full time at Boca, will you or your wife move to be with her so could see her daily or at least every weekend? At 10, she is too young to be by herself IMO. Besides...I'm sure you could not live more than a few days without seeing her hit tennis ball...

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