Mikeler's Multis - Page 222

Ronaldo · 10-16-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus

^^Agree, Volkl strings are not all that great. i say it is below industry standard.

Certainly not ready for a Primetime Shredder

djNEiGht · 10-16-2012, 03:40 PM

i am ruined...i just bought x3 different strings fr volkl...

mikeler · 10-16-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by filphil

Are you going to be revisiting your top rated strings after your racket switch?

I've already got Discho Microfibre in 1 racket. It plays great in my new frame as well. Broke the TecFlex tonight dead center again. Dang open pattern Exo!!!

sphinx780 · 10-16-2012, 04:41 PM

Wow, I'll steer clear of v-twist. That being said I still stand by Gripper's durability...it's beginning to sound lke the exception to the rule. I do use an 18x20 though but I am at 12 sets minimum.

Ronaldo · 10-16-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by djNEiGht

i am ruined...i just bought x3 different strings fr volkl...

But bought at a bargain price, eh?

ewberner · 10-16-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeler

I've already got Discho Microfibre in 1 racket. It plays great in my new frame as well. Broke the TecFlex tonight dead center again. Dang open pattern Exo!!!

Writing a review for it soon?

mikeler · 10-17-2012, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sphinx780

Wow, I'll steer clear of v-twist. That being said I still stand by Gripper's durability...it's beginning to sound lke the exception to the rule. I do use an 18x20 though but I am at 12 sets minimum.

Good news. Thanks to the great TW customer service, they are shipping me a set of Gripper.

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Originally Posted by ewberner

Writing a review for it soon?

Tonight.

sphinx780 · 10-17-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeler

Good news. Thanks to the great TW customer service, they are shipping me a set of Gripper.

Nice! I'll be intrigued to get your take on it. I figure it'll either be somewhat similar to my take, or completely the opposite.

filphil · 10-17-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeler

Good news. Thanks to the great TW customer service, they are shipping me a set of Gripper.

Did you tell them to look at your thread?

djNEiGht · 10-17-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by filphil

Did you tell them I'M A BOSS!!!

best have!

mikeler · 10-17-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sphinx780

Nice! I'll be intrigued to get your take on it. I figure it'll either be somewhat similar to my take, or completely the opposite.

At least this might help you in the future. If I hate it, then you know to stay away from my favorite strings.

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Originally Posted by filphil

Did you tell them to look at your thread?

Yes, in order to prove that I knew what I was talking about.

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Originally Posted by djNEiGht

best have!

Haha.

mikeler · 10-17-2012, 03:43 PM

OK, here is my review in the TW format of the Gosen TecFlex 16.

It looks like a standard 16g multi string. It was smooth and seemed fairly limp. The packaging recommended a tension of 45-55 pounds which most here would consider to be low.

Tension it is strung: 54 pounds on a lockout machine full bed
Your regular string set up: Discho Microfibre 16 @ 54 pounds on a lockout
String pattern of your racquet: 16 x 18
Power (or lack there of): Medium/High powered multi
Feel: Below average feel
Tension maintenance: Questionable around the 3 hour mark
Price: $9.95/set
Overall comments and feedback: See below

General: The only other Gosen string I've tried is OGSM 17 which I hated. So I had low expecations for this string. I liked this one much better but it was just too springy for my game. They can't blame it on the low tension I used since I strung it near the top of their recommended tension.

Serve/Return of Serve: Serves were good for the first 2 hours but then I seemed to be just missing them. Returns got more difficult as the string lost tension.

Strokes: Spin was below average. The string surface is so smooth that it just does not seem to grab the ball well.

Volleys: It feels pretty average on volleys.

Touch shots: It is not great for drop shots.

Softness: The string is nice and soft. Might be a good alternative to try along with Maxim Touch for those who want a lot of power and softness from a string.

Tension: If I were to try this string again, I might up the tension a few pounds to see if I could get rid of the trampoline effect. But I won't try this string again...

Durability: After almost 4.5 sets of singles and 0.5 sets of doubles, one string snapped right in the sweetspot. There was zero warning that breakage was imminent. No fraying or notching that I could see.

Movement: String movement with every multi I've tried in my new Exo Tours is pretty bad. Low tension multis in an open pattern just will not stay in place.

Conclusion: This string reminds me a lot of the Yonex Tour Super 850. It would not surprise me if it is the same string. I just hit way too many balls long especially in my last match to justify using this again.

Up&comer · 10-17-2012, 03:52 PM

The tours break strings at an ungodly rate. I had to either switch to the 18x20 (which I really didn't like) or go to something else. Poly wasn't even making it 3 hours in that stick.

filphil · 10-17-2012, 04:16 PM

It's not only the open pattern that's contributing to breakage is it? When I looked at Babolat(buffer system) and Prince(speed ports) it seemed they would be more likely to break strings. The strings move more in all directions when compared to traditional grommet systems where most of the wear(in my experience) have been on the mains.

Ramon · 10-17-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Up&comer

The tours break strings at an ungodly rate. I had to either switch to the 18x20 (which I really didn't like) or go to something else. Poly wasn't even making it 3 hours in that stick.

The open string pattern of the 16x18 definitely makes it susceptible to early breakage and string movement. I suspect the flexibility the Tours has something to do with it also. If the head flexes a lot, the mains will stretch more on impact than they do with a stiffer frame.

mikeler · 10-17-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Up&comer

The tours break strings at an ungodly rate. I had to either switch to the 18x20 (which I really didn't like) or go to something else. Poly wasn't even making it 3 hours in that stick.

I'm sure poly would last longer for me but I understand why you were breaking strings so often with this stick now.

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Originally Posted by filphil

It's not only the open pattern that's contributing to breakage is it? When I looked at Babolat(buffer system) and Prince(speed ports) it seemed they would be more likely to break strings. The strings move more in all directions when compared to traditional grommet systems where most of the wear(in my experience) have been on the mains.

I agree. The ports allow the strings to move more and I think that results in more friction. I used to always hit high on the PK 7G but with the Exo I'm busting it right in the sweetspot.

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Originally Posted by Ramon

The open string pattern of the 16x18 definitely makes it susceptible to early breakage and string movement. I suspect the flexibility the Tours has something to do with it also. If the head flexes a lot, the mains will stretch more on impact than they do with a stiffer frame.

If both the racket and strings are flexible, it seems like that would take some of the stress on the strings. I'd think a stiffer frame would put more stress on the strings. Interesting side topic perhaps?

Up&comer · 10-17-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeler

If both the racket and strings are flexible, it seems like that would take some of the stress on the strings. I'd think a stiffer frame would put more stress on the strings. Interesting side topic perhaps?

I was thinking the same thing. I might get a thead going on that. I'll have to search to see if it's been discussed before.

ckcgary · 10-18-2012, 12:00 AM

Hi Mikeler, the name of some strings are almost same from different brands. Do you know if they are same string by OEM? For example:

1) Polyfibre Gutex & Pro's Pro Gutex
2) Boris Becker Pulse & Pro's Pro Pulse

Did you try Pro's Pro HotStuff? Which one is better if compare with Polyfibre Gutex? How about Pro's Pro Kingut? (Recently, I am studying the performance of Pro's Pro strings and wanna to try it) Thank you very much.

mikeler · 10-18-2012, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ckcgary

Hi Mikeler, the name of some strings are almost same from different brands. Do you know if they are same string by OEM? For example:

1) Polyfibre Gutex & Pro's Pro Gutex
2) Boris Becker Pulse & Pro's Pro Pulse

Did you try Pro's Pro HotStuff? Which one is better if compare with Polyfibre Gutex? How about Pro's Pro Kingut? (Recently, I am studying the performance of Pro's Pro strings and wanna to try it) Thank you very much.

I don't know if those are the same strings or not. My guess is that they probably are. As for for the other Pro's Pro strings, I have not tried them. Check out post #1 of this thread for all the multis I've tried to date.

Nostradamus · 10-18-2012, 04:42 AM

These synth multi strings aren't supposed to be affected by weather but i think it does. It was raining yesterday and warm and humid weather. and my strings felt really mushy and harder to control. what's up with that ?

10-16-2012, 03:40 PM	#4422
djNEiGht Semi-Pro Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Eagle Rock, Los Angeles, CA Posts: 591	i am ruined...i just bought x3 different strings fr volkl... __________________ Married into a tennis fam-trying2keep up after4knee surgeries. I almost have more racquets than my wife and in-laws (don't tell the wife)

10-16-2012, 04:41 PM	#4424
sphinx780 Professional Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,015	Wow, I'll steer clear of v-twist. That being said I still stand by Gripper's durability...it's beginning to sound lke the exception to the rule. I do use an 18x20 though but I am at 12 sets minimum. __________________ Boris Becker Melbourne "To resist despair in this world is what it is to be free"

10-17-2012, 03:43 PM	#4432
mikeler G.O.A.T. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 14,858	OK, here is my review in the TW format of the Gosen TecFlex 16. It looks like a standard 16g multi string. It was smooth and seemed fairly limp. The packaging recommended a tension of 45-55 pounds which most here would consider to be low. Tension it is strung: 54 pounds on a lockout machine full bed Your regular string set up: Discho Microfibre 16 @ 54 pounds on a lockout String pattern of your racquet: 16 x 18 Power (or lack there of): Medium/High powered multi Feel: Below average feel Tension maintenance: Questionable around the 3 hour mark Price: $9.95/set Overall comments and feedback: See below General: The only other Gosen string I've tried is OGSM 17 which I hated. So I had low expecations for this string. I liked this one much better but it was just too springy for my game. They can't blame it on the low tension I used since I strung it near the top of their recommended tension. Serve/Return of Serve: Serves were good for the first 2 hours but then I seemed to be just missing them. Returns got more difficult as the string lost tension. Strokes: Spin was below average. The string surface is so smooth that it just does not seem to grab the ball well. Volleys: It feels pretty average on volleys. Touch shots: It is not great for drop shots. Softness: The string is nice and soft. Might be a good alternative to try along with Maxim Touch for those who want a lot of power and softness from a string. Tension: If I were to try this string again, I might up the tension a few pounds to see if I could get rid of the trampoline effect. But I won't try this string again... Durability: After almost 4.5 sets of singles and 0.5 sets of doubles, one string snapped right in the sweetspot. There was zero warning that breakage was imminent. No fraying or notching that I could see. Movement: String movement with every multi I've tried in my new Exo Tours is pretty bad. Low tension multis in an open pattern just will not stay in place. Conclusion: This string reminds me a lot of the Yonex Tour Super 850. It would not surprise me if it is the same string. I just hit way too many balls long especially in my last match to justify using this again. Last edited by mikeler : 10-17-2012 at 03:47 PM.

10-17-2012, 04:16 PM	#4434
filphil Rookie Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 317	It's not only the open pattern that's contributing to breakage is it? When I looked at Babolat(buffer system) and Prince(speed ports) it seemed they would be more likely to break strings. The strings move more in all directions when compared to traditional grommet systems where most of the wear(in my experience) have been on the mains. __________________ Yonex VCORE 95D - Pacific Classic 16 x MSV Co-Focus 1.18 @ 54/45 lbs

10-18-2012, 04:42 AM	#4440
Nostradamus Hall Of Fame Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: In the future Posts: 4,167	These synth multi strings aren't supposed to be affected by weather but i think it does. It was raining yesterday and warm and humid weather. and my strings felt really mushy and harder to control. what's up with that ? __________________ Babolat Pure drive 2012, 55 lbs, Kirschbaum Proline X / X-1 biphase. Nalbandian backhand and Nadal forehand.