Food for thought: More Practice matches. - Page 6

ga tennis · 10-17-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MarTennis

...still would require public/private tennis professional partnership to foster total development. For example, private tennis biz (club/academy) need to be willing to help bridge development from parks that may have the nontraditional tennis athletes.

Personally, if this sort of partnering would have occurred after Ashe won Wimbledon we would still be dominating tennis or at least more in the global mix at the top. All court play would compete with grinder play, contrast would be awesome and tennis would be even bigger. No use crying over spilt milk. Can still do now. Question is do clubs have taste for such sacrifice?

Big shout out to San Francisco Tennis Club and Claremont Resort and Spa in the Bay Area. Both stepping up bigtime.

Great post

Ash_Smith · 10-18-2012, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ga tennis

It would be ideal fo him to be African American and cocky and have a lot a swag about himself.

Hmm, from this side of the pond that description sounds like DY!!!

maggmaster · 10-18-2012, 03:18 AM

Whats your opinion of DY coach? Can he still pull it together?

Soianka · 10-18-2012, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash_Smith

Hmm, from this side of the pond that description sounds like DY!!!

I'm not sure DY has star appeal, but maybe he would if he were winning all the time.

10ismom · 10-18-2012, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Soianka

I'm not sure DY has star appeal, but maybe he would if he were winning all the time.

What do you guys think about Rayn Harrison and Jack Sock "Star Appeal"?

I know Ryan kinda messed up with his attitude on court. What if he will metamorph? No more racquet abuse, ref arguing, etc.

How about Sock?

Ash_Smith · 10-18-2012, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by maggmaster

Whats your opinion of DY coach? Can he still pull it together?

I don't know enough of the DY story and haven't seen enough of him play to fairly judge - have only what I've read on here and seen in Euro press to judge by.

In respect of a new up and comer for you I really did like the look of Francis Tiafoe when I met him in Tarbes, got to watch a couple of his matches and there's definitely something about him - there seemed to be a real fire in him!

10ismom · 10-18-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash_Smith

I don't know enough of the DY story and haven't seen enough of him play to fairly judge - have only what I've read on here and seen in Euro press to judge by.

In respect of a new up and comer for you I really did like the look of Francis Tiafoe when I met him in Tarbes, got to watch a couple of his matches and there's definitely something about him - there seemed to be a real fire in him!

Tiafoe is still young though. Americans will embrace his Cinderella story. It will take several years from now for him compared to the older and ATP ranked Sock and Ryan Harrison.

Tennishacker · 10-18-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TCF

Sock has an edge to him, always been a little 'different'. Of the two, he has more potential to capture the attention of the public if he became a top player.

I think Ryan would be kind of a drip, even if he was a top player. Not as easy to market.

Great observation.

Harrison has complete game, Sock needs to improve backhand, but has bigger weapons than Harrison.

ga tennis · 10-18-2012, 09:44 AM

Neither Sock or Harrison is gonna appeal to the whole hip hop culture. Donald Young has no real street credentials Donald is a momas boy these kids see right thru that.I'm not saying Donald is a phony because I really like the guy.I just think if ourgreatest hope has the story,the swag and the me against the world attitude then we can tap into our greatest athletes. I'm not only talking about our African American kids Im talking also about our best white athletes that have posters of Kobe Bryant in their room or Lebron James.Those white kids that are into the hip hop culture. I promise you are not gonna go in a young black kids room and find a poster of Andy Murray and if you did he's not the one.We have to break down doors and make tennis cool and if we do we will DOMINATE!!!!!!!!!!

Soianka · 10-18-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 10ismom

What do you guys think about Rayn Harrison and Jack Sock "Star Appeal"?

I know Ryan kinda messed up with his attitude on court. What if he will metamorph? No more racquet abuse, ref arguing, etc.

How about Sock?

I do agree with TCF, that Jack Sock appears to be the most marketable of the 3 mentioned.

Ash_Smith · 10-18-2012, 09:56 AM

^^^thing is every tennis NGB around the world is trying to make tennis cool!

Ash_Smith · 10-18-2012, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 10ismom

Tiafoe is still young though. Americans will embrace his Cinderella story. It will take several years from now for him compared to the older and ATP ranked Sock and Ryan Harrison.

Sure, he's still u14, but he had a spark to him that I liked and I understand his "story" is pretty marketable - jeeze this is turning into X-Factor!!!

ga tennis · 10-18-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash_Smith

^^^thing is every tennis NGB around the world is trying to make tennis cool!

Yea but NO country in the world has near as many athletes as we do. Ash do you know a good friend of mine named Simon Earnshaw?? He is the head tennis coach at Armstrong Atlantic University. He has been winning lots and lots of national championships since he arrived. He is from England.

10ismom · 10-18-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash_Smith

Sure, he's still u14, but he had a spark to him that I liked and I understand his "story" is pretty marketable - jeeze this is turning into X-Factor!!!

LOL.....We need to improve RATINGS from tennis audience.

ga tennis · 10-18-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 10ismom

LOL.....We need to improve RATINGS from tennis audience.

We need to diversify the audience.

10ismom · 10-18-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Soianka

I do agree with TCF, that Jack Sock appears to be the most marketable of the 3 mentioned.

Yeah.....we just need great results to go along with it.

My 13 yo just converted to cheer Andy instead of Djoko in the ShiangHai Rolex Final.
Guess since Andy got the gold and US open title.

jigglypuff · 10-18-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TCF

Very true. American kids need superstars. The only way to make tennis cool would be for a swash buckling star like an American Nadal to burst onto the scene.

From the looks of things we have no hope on the men's side. No one in the pipeline is going to be a superstar. We can not come up with one super athletic, charismatic, good looking stud player thats going to put American's mens tennis back on the map.

I don't know... the game is pretty long and boring to me. If there was a football, basketball, and tennis game on at the same time, tennis would be last on the list every time. Even if tennis was the only thing on, I would be hard pressed to sit there and watch more than a set.

Ash_Smith · 10-18-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ga tennis

Yea but NO country in the world has near as many athletes as we do. Ash do you know a good friend of mine named Simon Earnshaw?? He is the head tennis coach at Armstrong Atlantic University. He has been winning lots and lots of national championships since he arrived. He is from England.

No sorry - do you guys over there think because we are a small country we all know everybody else

(although actually the tennis coaching community here is pretty small so it's not uncommon for coaches to know each other, even from different parts of the country

)

Sunbeam · 10-18-2012, 10:31 AM

I have been loving the Pac-12 Network. So into women's volleyball right now because of the program timing. At this point I know all the faces -- can tell who has the leadership and appeal right away.

Maybe these college networks that are sprouting up will flush out a few tennis players/teams with that type of healthy appeal, physicality and dominance...

This is America - it's all about the visual, the story, the youth. We want it put in our face via a screen.

We are prodded (yes, I am referencing herd mentality) into action by the mass marketing, the commercials, the selling of the dream and of course the heroes ....

tennisconsultcom · 10-18-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 10ismom

What do you guys think about Rayn Harrison and Jack Sock "Star Appeal"?

I know Ryan kinda messed up with his attitude on court. What if he will metamorph? No more racquet abuse, ref arguing, etc.

How about Sock?

Jack Sock has a huge potential He may become the next American star after Roddick.

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