A couple string tests - Page 60

netguy · 09-09-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Up&comer

Well, it's been a while, but a few updates.

Firstly, I've retooled my forehand and fixed some fundamental issues which has now alleviated any arm problems. Along with that, I have now moved back to my aeropros (yes!!). I've sort of rediscovered SPPP regular and hex and have been very happy with both strung at around 43. They work so well because the problem with low tensions before was they would lose tension and become a bit unwieldy after an hour or two. The tension maintenance of SPPP helps solve that problem.

Secondly, I've found that I can get some very good durability (even better than full poly) with poly mains and a thick nylon/synthetic cross. It plays surprisingly well, lasts longer, and is cheaper. Awesome.

Thirdly, I will have to officially resign from string testing. Not just due to what I will talk about later, but also because I have so much going on right now I don't have time.

Lastly, and to in essence wrap up this thread, let me say this. In all these string tests, many of which I didn't end up writing a review on, I have found one thing. Strings really don't matter much. I can honestly say I feel I could play with any string and play within 5 or 6 percent of my top game. This epiphany hit me when I thought I had strung up some mosquito bite. I hit for two hours, got home, and then realized I had strung isospeed baseline spin by accident. I honestly wouldn't have noticed if I hadn't had to string another guy's racket with MB and realized it felt different than what I had strung earlier.

So I guess that's it. I'd still be glad to answer any questions people want to ask, but for now, I bid this thread adieu.

I'm 100% in agreement with this one. Amen

Up&comer · 09-09-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RetroSpin

Up&Comer,

Interesting comments. I don't have anywhere near your experience with all these different strings, but I had trouble discerning all these huge differences that everyone seems to experience.

BTW, you said Tour Bite needs to be strung low. How low?

Well, it depends. I liked it the most at around 40 to 43 pounds. TB, more than almost any poly I've used, maintained the same power level even when strung lower, and only had improved spin. Some disagree though. It all depends on the person.

djNEiGht · 09-09-2012, 06:07 PM

And a similar sentiment in this thread...thanks for the good read!

Ramon · 09-09-2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Up&comer

Lastly, and to in essence wrap up this thread, let me say this. In all these string tests, many of which I didn't end up writing a review on, I have found one thing. Strings really don't matter much.

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Originally Posted by pvaudio

Quite possibly the truest statement on TTW.

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Originally Posted by netguy

I'm 100% in agreement with this one. Amen

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Originally Posted by djNEiGht

And a similar sentiment in this thread...thanks for the good read!

Ok now. I'm assuming that TW can count on all of you guys to order a reel of 15L Nylon.

mikeler · 09-10-2012, 04:49 AM

I like how this was supposed to be the end of this thread and now it is alive and kicking.

djNEiGht · 09-10-2012, 08:46 AM

@ramon - i probably should...but my "sentiment" was brought over from PVAudio's thread.

alidisperanza · 09-10-2012, 08:57 AM

I think that statement needs to be qualified a bit-- strings do matter. Are they the sole determining factor in your game? Definitely not. But within reason, I don't think that they will jump you from 2.0-5.0 or reverse.

Poly plays like poly, multi plays like multi and gut like gut. Poly does NOT play like gut but, within reason, the original argument stands. I'm still playtesting because I enjoy it and I like helping other people. Ultimately I'm too much of a stringwh*re not to but otherwise, my hitting frames are all strung under 5.00 cost with full poly or cheap poly/synth.

pvaudio · 09-10-2012, 09:16 AM

What U&C is saying I think is that if you tried to hit a short, cross-court passing shot with full poly, that exact same stroke with full syn gut would not produce the same result. You COULD hit that same shot with full syn gut, multi or natty (Sampras was a wizard at this), but you just can't rely on the string giving you that extra nose-dive at the end. You've got to change the trajectory or seriously up the RHS.

Power Player · 09-10-2012, 09:43 AM

I love what U&C is saying because I agree. Strings matter to me in terms of feel and durability, but I adjust when it comes to spin/power and all the rest. If I string at a low tension with full poly I get the ball I want : The same ball if I went a little higher with gut poly. Now the feel and comfort changes, but my game does not.

The main thing for me is price range. So while I consider tour bite the best string out there, does my game drop off much when I drop down to yonex poly tour, or gosen polyon? Not really enough to justify the cost.

pvaudio · 09-10-2012, 09:53 AM

Polylon feels so woeful that I'd rather play with Forten Nylon. It's just poly for the sake of poly whereas the Forten is tennis string at its very essence. The latter is more appealing.

netguy · 09-10-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Power Player

I love what U&C is saying because I agree. Strings matter to me in terms of feel and durability, but I adjust when it comes to spin/power and all the rest. If I string at a low tension with full poly I get the ball I want : The same ball if I went a little higher with gut poly. Now the feel and comfort changes, but my game does not.

The main thing for me is price range. So while I consider tour bite the best string out there, does my game drop off much when I drop down to yonex poly tour, or gosen polyon? Not really enough to justify the cost.

....yup! I can't be more in agreement with this one also

Power Player · 09-10-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pvaudio

Polylon feels so woeful that I'd rather play with Forten Nylon. It's just poly for the sake of poly whereas the Forten is tennis string at its very essence. The latter is more appealing.

Yes I should clarify, I meant to type polyon polybreak. Polybreak is a very good string.

Up&comer · 09-10-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramon

Ok now. I'm assuming that TW can count on all of you guys to order a reel of 15L Nylon.

I already have. Been using it as a cross for poly mains. It works just fine

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Originally Posted by mikeler

I like how this was supposed to be the end of this thread and now it is alive and kicking.

Haha. Funny isn't it?

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Originally Posted by pvaudio

What U&C is saying I think is that if you tried to hit a short, cross-court passing shot with full poly, that exact same stroke with full syn gut would not produce the same result. You COULD hit that same shot with full syn gut, multi or natty (Sampras was a wizard at this), but you just can't rely on the string giving you that extra nose-dive at the end. You've got to change the trajectory or seriously up the RHS.

Exactamundo.

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Originally Posted by pvaudio

Polylon feels so woeful that I'd rather play with Forten Nylon. It's just poly for the sake of poly whereas the Forten is tennis string at its very essence. The latter is more appealing.

I would have to agree. While nylon certainly doesn't play great, I actually quite like how it feels oddly enough.

Logic Dude · 10-27-2012, 04:42 PM

Hey Up&comer, I've been using Signum Pro strings, mostly SPPP because it seems to hold tension really well, and I'm curious as to what might give similar performance at a similar price with a little more spin (the one thing it seems to lack). Thanks!

Great thread by the way!

mikeler · 10-27-2012, 06:24 PM

Viva la thread!

COPEY · 10-27-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Logic Dude

Hey Up&comer, I've been using Signum Pro strings, mostly SPPP because it seems to hold tension really well, and I'm curious as to what might give similar performance at a similar price with a little more spin (the one thing it seems to lack). Thanks!

Great thread by the way!

SPP HEXtreme might be what you're looking for. While there's a fairly significant difference in price in the states, if you buy it in the UK, it's a heck of a deal.

heartattack · 10-28-2012, 10:52 AM

i have Signum firestorm. How does this compare with silver string 1.20?

mikeler · 12-17-2012, 07:05 AM

Anybody know where Up&comer is?

Logic Dude · 12-17-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeler

Anybody know where Up&comer is?

Not sure. It looks like he hasn't even been on the site in over a month.

He never answered my question either

(other people gave me good recommendations, so I can't complain).

Muppet · 12-17-2012, 05:32 PM

I'm experiencing abandonment issues.

09-09-2012, 06:07 PM	#1183
djNEiGht Semi-Pro Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Eagle Rock, Los Angeles, CA Posts: 648	And a similar sentiment in this thread...thanks for the good read! __________________ Married into a tennis fam-trying2keep up after4knee surgeries. I almost have more racquets than my wife and in-laws (don't tell the wife)

09-10-2012, 08:46 AM	#1186
djNEiGht Semi-Pro Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Eagle Rock, Los Angeles, CA Posts: 648	@ramon - i probably should...but my "sentiment" was brought over from PVAudio's thread. __________________ Married into a tennis fam-trying2keep up after4knee surgeries. I almost have more racquets than my wife and in-laws (don't tell the wife)

09-10-2012, 08:57 AM	#1187
alidisperanza Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The fishy looking thing that sticks off the East Coast Posts: 1,869	I think that statement needs to be qualified a bit-- strings do matter. Are they the sole determining factor in your game? Definitely not. But within reason, I don't think that they will jump you from 2.0-5.0 or reverse. Poly plays like poly, multi plays like multi and gut like gut. Poly does NOT play like gut but, within reason, the original argument stands. I'm still playtesting because I enjoy it and I like helping other people. Ultimately I'm too much of a stringwh*re not to but otherwise, my hitting frames are all strung under 5.00 cost with full poly or cheap poly/synth. __________________ "Play like to want to win, not like you want to avoid losing." Yonex 95D

09-10-2012, 09:16 AM	#1188
pvaudio Legend Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7,475	What U&C is saying I think is that if you tried to hit a short, cross-court passing shot with full poly, that exact same stroke with full syn gut would not produce the same result. You COULD hit that same shot with full syn gut, multi or natty (Sampras was a wizard at this), but you just can't rely on the string giving you that extra nose-dive at the end. You've got to change the trajectory or seriously up the RHS. Last edited by pvaudio : 09-10-2012 at 09:19 AM.

09-10-2012, 09:43 AM	#1189
Power Player G.O.A.T. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: On my iPhone Posts: 13,602	I love what U&C is saying because I agree. Strings matter to me in terms of feel and durability, but I adjust when it comes to spin/power and all the rest. If I string at a low tension with full poly I get the ball I want : The same ball if I went a little higher with gut poly. Now the feel and comfort changes, but my game does not. The main thing for me is price range. So while I consider tour bite the best string out there, does my game drop off much when I drop down to yonex poly tour, or gosen polyon? Not really enough to justify the cost. __________________ 🐐ing