Ferrer to be ranked higher than Nadal after the Australian Open?

tennis_pro · 10-29-2012, 01:48 AM

As we know, Nadal is missing Paris and WTF this year. Ferrer on ther other hand looks to be playing into form (won Valencia yesterday). If he finished 2012 on a high note, let's say he gains 500-700 points in Paris and WTF, he could only be 1000 points behind Nadal in the race. Therefore, since Nadal is defending a final, Ferrer would "only" have to outperform Nadal at the AO to be ranked higher than him after the tournament is done.

We might see some Djokovic-Nadal, Federer-Nadal or Murray-Nadal matches in the QF stage in the near future, how fun would that be.

joeri888 · 10-29-2012, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tennis_pro

As we know, Nadal is missing Paris and WTF this year. Ferrer on ther other hand looks to be playing into form (won Valencia yesterday). If he finished 2012 on a high note, let's say he gains 500-700 points in Paris and WTF, he could only be 1000 points behind Nadal in the race. Therefore, since Nadal is defending a final, Ferrer would "only" have to outperform Nadal at the AO to be ranked higher than him after the tournament is done.

We might see some Djokovic-Nadal, Federer-Nadal or Murray-Nadal matches in the QF stage in the near future, how fun would that be.

Would be a nice change really. Tired of the big 4 making every semifinal.

Sabratha · 10-29-2012, 02:13 AM

Nadal might skip the AO.

tennis_pro · 10-29-2012, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabratha

Nadal might skip the AO.

The bigger the chance of Ferrer being ranked higher.

Ms Nadal · 10-29-2012, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabratha

Nadal might skip the AO.

Hmmm, you could be right. I just wish that Rafa and his camp would be more honest about his situation. I mean, What is really going on?. This injury excuse is wearing thin

. Rafa's fans are suffering!. I look forward to the AO either way as it is the first slam of the year and always fills me with excitement. Go Ferrer! he has played well he deserves some good fortune. I won't hold it against him.

joeri888 · 10-29-2012, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ms Nadal

Hmmm, you could be right. I just wish that Rafa and his camp would be more honest about his situation. I mean, What is really going on?. This injury excuse is wearing thin

. Rafa's fans are suffering!. I look forward to the AO either way as it is the first slam of the year and always fills me with excitement. Go Ferrer! he has played well he deserves some good fortune. I won't hold it against him.

They say absolutely nothing. It's pretty strange if you ask me.

Sabratha · 10-29-2012, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ms Nadal

Hmmm, you could be right. I just wish that Rafa and his camp would be more honest about his situation. I mean, What is really going on?. This injury excuse is wearing thin

. Rafa's fans are suffering!. I look forward to the AO either way as it is the first slam of the year and always fills me with excitement. Go Ferrer! he has played well he deserves some good fortune. I won't hold it against him.

If he does miss the AO, he will be giving many of the lower ranked players a chance to break through. A semifinal run for Raonic, for instance. Nadal not playing the AO, as bad as this sounds, may liven things up for once.

Clarky21 · 10-29-2012, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabratha

If he does miss the AO, he will be giving many of the lower ranked players a chance to break through. A semifinal run for Raonic, for instance. Nadal not playing the AO, as bad as this sounds, may liven things up for once.

I have a feeling you would not be so thrilled about livening things up if it were Fed we were talking about. And if the younger guys can't break through the current top 4,and need one of them to slip in the rankings for it to happen,I'd say that's their own fault. The don't deserve it if they can't beat the best.

sadowsk2 · 10-29-2012, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ms Nadal

Hmmm, you could be right. I just wish that Rafa and his camp would be more honest about his situation. I mean, What is really going on?. This injury excuse is wearing thin

. Rafa's fans are suffering!. I look forward to the AO either way as it is the first slam of the year and always fills me with excitement. Go Ferrer! he has played well he deserves some good fortune. I won't hold it against him.

I think the Nadal camp has been pretty honest... He's got tendinosis in his patella tendon... If you knew anything about the injury and the nature of how a tendon heals you'd understand the timetable to return from that type of injury can range from anywhere to 6-24 months... Tendons are slow to heal despite even the best medical attention currently available... The only thing he can do (short of invasive surgery) is continue to vigourosly rehab and monitor the healing progress... He may not come back until the next US Open, though I suspect the fact he's still relatively young, and diliagently devoting essentially full time towards rehabbing he'll be back between the AO and the Clay court season next year...

Sabratha · 10-29-2012, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

I have a feeling you would not be so thrilled about livening things up if it were Fed we were talking about. And if the younger guys can't break through the current top 4,and need one of them to slip in the rankings for it to happen,I'd say that's their own fault. The don't deserve it if they can't beat the best.

People are starting to figure Federer out anyway.

Clarky21 · 10-29-2012, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabratha

People are starting to figure Federer out anyway.

No they're not. Fed lost the final in Basel. It's not like he lost the Wimby final for crying out loud.

tennis_pro · 10-29-2012, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sadowsk2

I think the Nadal camp has been pretty honest... He's got tendinosis in his patella tendon... If you knew anything about the injury and the nature of how a tendon heals you'd understand the timetable to return from that type of injury can range from anywhere to 6-24 months... Tendons are slow to heal despite even the best medical attention currently available... The only thing he can do (short of invasive surgery) is continue to vigourosly rehab and monitor the healing progress... He may not come back until the next US Open, though I suspect the fact he's still relatively young, and diliagently devoting essentially full time towards rehabbing he'll be back between the AO and the Clay court season next year...

Oh he'll be back before the clay season, alright. I'm sure Nadal will start to feel waaaaay better when we reach Monte Carlo.

tennis_pro · 10-29-2012, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabratha

People are starting to figure Federer out anyway.

Maybe finally they figured out that he's not 25 anymore? What a revelation!

Sabratha · 10-29-2012, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

No they're not. Fed lost the final in Basel. It's not like he lost the Wimby final for crying out loud.

It will happen eventually.

augustobt · 10-29-2012, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tennis_pro

Maybe finally they figured out that he's not 25 anymore? What a revelation!

That is hard for some people to see!

Clarky21 · 10-29-2012, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabratha

It will happen eventually.

Well it already happened to Nadal who is 5 years younger,so I think Fed has done pretty darn well considering his age. Your guy also has 17 slams and numerous records to his name. Consider yourself lucky that you are a Fed fan and not a long suffering Nadal fan like me.

tennis_pro · 10-29-2012, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

Well it already happened to Nadal who is 5 years younger,so I think Fed has done pretty darn well considering his age. Your guy also has 17 slams and numerous records to his name. Consider yourself lucky that you are a Fed fan and not a long suffering Nadal fan like me.

Yea you poor child, your idol has only 11 majors in his pocket so far. If Federer won that few I'd probably stop supporting him!

Jesus, some people...

Sentinel · 10-29-2012, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

Well it already happened to Nadal who is 5 years younger,so I think Fed has done pretty darn well considering his age. Your guy also has 17 slams and numerous records to his name. Consider yourself lucky that you are a Fed fan and not a long suffering Nadal fan like me.

Believe me, we considered ourselves very fortunate all these years watching Fed being abused by your man (lol, /sarc).

I doubt there's much more Nadal and CO. can say about the injury, it's not like injuries give our their departure dates. Imagine his suffering, while you chaps go about your jobs earning your fortunes, living it up.

It;ll be awful if Nadal doesnt come back in form at AO. Imagine some low ranked player making it to the semis and getting routed while the other semi is tough.

Hawkeye7 · 10-29-2012, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

Well it already happened to Nadal who is 5 years younger,so I think Fed has done pretty darn well considering his age. Your guy also has 17 slams and numerous records to his name. Consider yourself lucky that you are a Fed fan and not a long suffering Nadal fan like me.

He won 11 slams and might win more... yeah, I feel so sorry for you (and me too btw).

NadalAgassi · 10-29-2012, 07:15 AM

I expect Nadal will play the Australian Open and if he does and is semi fit he will outperform Ferrer there with atleast a semifinal, while Ferrer will lose in the quarters to one of the big 4 at best. In fact of the guys ranked 5-8 Ferrer has the least ability to beat any of the top 4, except for Djokovic and Murray (but definitely not Federer or Nadal) on a clay court only.

I also dont think such a weak (relatively speaking) player in the top 4 would be good. It would create the same unbalanced draws we see in the womens game. 3 of Murray, Nadal, Djokovic, or Federer will end up in one half, while the remaining one will end up in the half with Ferrer and have a bye to the final, with often some unknown making it out of Ferrer's section probably.

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tennis_pro G.O.A.T. Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 11,710	Ferrer to be ranked higher than Nadal after the Australian Open? As we know, Nadal is missing Paris and WTF this year. Ferrer on ther other hand looks to be playing into form (won Valencia yesterday). If he finished 2012 on a high note, let's say he gains 500-700 points in Paris and WTF, he could only be 1000 points behind Nadal in the race. Therefore, since Nadal is defending a final, Ferrer would "only" have to outperform Nadal at the AO to be ranked higher than him after the tournament is done. We might see some Djokovic-Nadal, Federer-Nadal or Murray-Nadal matches in the QF stage in the near future, how fun would that be. __________________ "By the Nalbandian logic, I could beat Federer when I'm "in form". Nalbandian is only a threat to linesmen." - pvaudio

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NadalAgassi Legend Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 9,635	I expect Nadal will play the Australian Open and if he does and is semi fit he will outperform Ferrer there with atleast a semifinal, while Ferrer will lose in the quarters to one of the big 4 at best. In fact of the guys ranked 5-8 Ferrer has the least ability to beat any of the top 4, except for Djokovic and Murray (but definitely not Federer or Nadal) on a clay court only. I also dont think such a weak (relatively speaking) player in the top 4 would be good. It would create the same unbalanced draws we see in the womens game. 3 of Murray, Nadal, Djokovic, or Federer will end up in one half, while the remaining one will end up in the half with Ferrer and have a bye to the final, with often some unknown making it out of Ferrer's section probably. __________________ TMF on Jan. 2011- Serena is washed up for good, TMF in Oct. 2009- Nadal has won his final slam, TMF in 2011- Woz will beat Serena at U.S Open Last edited by NadalAgassi : 10-29-2012 at 07:17 AM.

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