Ferrer to be ranked higher than Nadal after the Australian Open?

[joeri888]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

I have a feeling you would not be so thrilled about livening things up if it were Fed we were talking about. And if the younger guys can't break through the current top 4,and need one of them to slip in the rankings for it to happen,I'd say that's their own fault. The don't deserve it if they can't beat the best.

If they speed up the AO court and make 40 shot rallies the exception rather than the norm, guys like Tsonga and Berdych might actually stand a chance.

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

I have a feeling you would not be so thrilled about livening things up if it were Fed we were talking about. And if the younger guys can't break through the current top 4,and need one of them to slip in the rankings for it to happen,I'd say that's their own fault. The don't deserve it if they can't beat the best.

Originally Posted by Clarky21

No they're not. Fed lost the final in Basel. It's not like he lost the Wimby final for crying out loud.

Lol i agree for once. no Nadal makes an unbalanced draw and i want to see someone upset the standard top 4 semi because they played amazing tennis to beat one of them. Not cos one of them didn't play.

And yeah after 9 years of winning slams people are figuring fed out. no he's just getting older and i am pleased with his year.

[Ms Nadal]

I know, this Rafa absense is really bad for his fans! . It is just ongoing and we miss him so much!. The fans of the other three are lucky as they do not have all these injuries like Rafa. I can see why people would like to have different people in the semis but I do like the top 4 rivalries. When these newbies get to the semis they can really get lost in the occasion and don't perform and get beaten easily.

[SQA333]

Originally Posted by Ms Nadal

I know, this Rafa absense is really bad for his fans! . It is just ongoing and we miss him so much!. The fans of the other three are lucky as they do not have all these injuries like Rafa. I can see why people would like to have different people in the semis but I do like the top 4 rivalries. When these newbies get to the semis they can really get lost in the occasion and don't perform and get beaten easily.

Tsonga nearly took his semifinal to a 5th set at Wimbledon against Murray; likewise with Berdych against Murray (I believe Berdman actually had set points) in NY, and Djokovic would have lost had they continued playing in the windy conditions at the USO against Ferrer.

Last season Tsonga again played a great and very entertaining match against Djokovic in the semifinal at Wimbledon, and Ferrer nearly went up 2 sets to 0 against Murray in Australia.

Let's not forget in 2009, Del Potro (in his first 2 grand slam semifinals) was 2 sets to 1 up on Federer at RG, and famously gave Nadal his worst ever Grand Slam beating in New York.

Moral of the story: these "newbies" you speak of aren't that incompetent.

[forzamilan90]

Ferrer best Nadal at the AO not long ago so this is actually a cool match up I would like to see at the AO

[Ms Nadal]

Ok folks. You may get your wish! None of the top 4 in semis will be great! ENJOY!

[MichaelNadal]

Originally Posted by forzamilan90

Ferrer best Nadal at the AO not long ago so this is actually a cool match up I would like to see at the AO

Me too, maybe im a minority but I love Ferrer-Nadal matches. Always so intense!!

[hisrob777]

Ferrer is a valiant warrior among Gods(Big 4)

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by Ms Nadal

Ok folks. You may get your wish! None of the top 4 in semis will be great! ENJOY!

We would get a new top four then.

[Ms Nadal]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

We would get a new top four then.

You never know. Could happen!

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by Ms Nadal

You never know. Could happen!

It would happen if the current top four can't make the semifinals at any slam.

[tennis_pro]

This thread needs a bump.

Technically, Ferrer to be ranked higher than Nadal at the end of 2012 would have to:

- beat Llodra in the SF and Janowicz in the F of the Paris Masters. Looks doable
- advance to the final of the WTF - ok he's got Federer in his group but also Tipsarevic and Del Potro, reaching the semis is possible for him
- win the semis. This is the most difficult part. He would have to beat probably either Murray or Djokovic.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by tennis_pro

This thread needs a bump.

Technically, Ferrer to be ranked higher than Nadal at the end of 2012 would have to:

- beat Llodra in the SF and Janowicz in the F of the Paris Masters. Looks doable
- advance to the final of the WTF - ok he's got Federer in his group but also Tipsarevic and Del Potro, reaching the semis is possible for him
- win the semis. This is the most difficult part. He would have to beat probably either Murray or Djokovic.

Why? He beat Murray and djokovic last year

[tennis_pro]

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style

Why? He beat Murray and djokovic last year

This is the most difficult part of the 3.

I can see Ferrer beating Llodra and Janowicz in Paris, I think it's highly probable for him to beat Del Potro and Tipsarevic but beating either Murray/Djokovic AGAIN is the toughest part.

[vive le beau jeu !]

with a decent AO, it looks very reasonnable... vamos david.

[Gonzo_style]

Originally Posted by tennis_pro

This is the most difficult part of the 3.

I can see Ferrer beating Llodra and Janowicz in Paris, I think it's highly probable for him to beat Del Potro and Tipsarevic but beating either Murray/Djokovic AGAIN is the toughest part.

I agree, but if David lost for a few hours this will all seem pointless...And David would played 3 CONSECUTIVE WEEKS, i don't know how much he will have energy for WTFs...

[tennis_pro]

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style

I agree, but if David lost for a few hours this will all seem pointless...And David would played 3 CONSECUTIVE WEEKS, i don't know how much he will have energy for WTFs...

Don't you worry, he'll be as fresh as a daisy!

[tennis_pro]

One down, two to go. Ferrer is like 770 p behind the nadal currently, all he needs to do now is to win two round robin matches and the semis to end the year ahead of the rafa. Heres hoping ferru doesnt burns out this week

[norbac]

Are there any possible points to be gained through Davis Cup?

[Steve0904]

Originally Posted by norbac

Are there any possible points to be gained through Davis Cup?

Yes I believe so. It says on the ATP website that DC is 625 pts, and Ferrer has 295 pts from that last year, but I have no idea how it actually works.