Tennis Coaches' Salaries

[floridatennisdude]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Any decent tennis player, 4.5 and above, can coach tennis, a GAME.
Would you trust a college student to determine the course of action of your future?

Coaching salaries are inflated naturally in the same way CEOs are. They take what they can thinking that it could very well be their last high paying position. What would you want if it were possibly the last job you ever had?

To me, $100k is very low for Illinois. I'd want near 250 to provide security for my family. Unless his wife is also working, he won't be able to retire comfortably for many years. If I made 250 for 10 years, I could live an 80k/year lifestyle for many years. At 100k, I'd have to get a real world job after those same 10 years. That's a lot of pressure for a family. Especially when the bread winner only knows a GAME.

[heftylefty]

Originally Posted by ollinger

Their salaries will be going down, or disappearing entirely. Obama outlined in a speech at U of Michigan early this year his plan to modify the Affordability in Higher Education Act. It will require colleges to keep their tuition cost increases below a set level, or they will lose their federal funding, including aid grants. A number of universities and colleges have already elimininated tennis and other sports that produce negative revenue and create expenses for the schools. More will follow in this course when they start to see their federal grants threatened. Sounds a little heavy handed but I give Obama props for this one, as higher education has simply become unaffordable for too many. The growth of competition from online education will also lead colleges to eliminate money losing programs like the minor sports.

Tennis programs have been drop from college sports since the 80's. Tennis, for the post part does not generate revenue. The college Peter Smith, head coach USC, played at, Cal-State Univ. Long Beach, has not had a men's team in years.

[sundaypunch]

The majority of college sports do not operate at a profit. Unless you are dealing with football or basketball at a major program, the coaches aren't going to be getting rich.

[jaggy]

My take is that no college sport would change much if the coach made considerably less. The coaches lifestyles would change but thats about it.

[NTRPolice]

Simple minded thinking...

That's just a base salary guys. Not everyone lives off only a base salary.

There are a lot of CEO's who have base salaries similar to those figures but reap many other benefits at the same time.

Warren Buffett's "salary" is less than some of those coaches.

[sureshs]

Apart from health benefits and a bonus for a championship win, what other income are they making? I don't think college coaches get stock options and paid accommodation.

[watergirl]

The D1 tennis coaches in our town get a free, new model car to drive. According to one of the car dealership owners, this is common through out the US for D1 coaches for all sports.

[cmb]

^^summer camps...private lessons

[cmb]

and yes...mike center deserves food stamps for his level of coaching

[floridatennisdude]

Originally Posted by watergirl

The D1 tennis coaches in our town get a free, new model car to drive. According to one of the car dealership owners, this is common through out the US for D1 coaches for all sports.

Yes, all head coaches at Florida get dealer car from Buick. The Buick dealer gets a considerable amount of season tickets to football and basketball in return as well as advertising.

Coaches also get cash bonuses for SEC titles and National titles. They also get a good payout for camps, but some coaches waive most of that so assistants can get more. Nike also gives plenty of clothing and shoe allowances.

So it would be reasonable to assume that Bryan and Roland get about $12k in car, $10k from camp, $5k in clothing and Roland probably banked another $40k in championship bonuses. On top of a 150+ base, they are living comfortably. Those amounts are not even close to CEO perks and benefits. Yet these folks live a very public and scrutinized life.

[cmb]

Originally Posted by floridatennisdude

Yes, all head coaches at Florida get dealer car from Buick. The Buick dealer gets a considerable amount of season tickets to football and basketball in return as well as advertising.

Coaches also get cash bonuses for SEC titles and National titles. They also get a good payout for camps, but some coaches waive most of that so assistants can get more. Nike also gives plenty of clothing and shoe allowances.

So it would be reasonable to assume that Bryan and Roland get about $12k in car, $10k from camp, $5k in clothing and Roland probably banked another $40k in championship bonuses. On top of a 150+ base, they are living comfortably. Those amounts are not even close to CEO perks and benefits. Yet these folks live a very public and scrutinized life.

lol please dont compare a NCAA college tennis coach to a CEO, big schools are paid wayyyyy too much! and mid major and 3rd tier d1 school coaches make total crap!, i guess if you can find a solid deal its around 40k a year

[NTRPolice]

My comparison between a D1 coach and a CEO merely illustrates that "salary" isnt everything. Most people will only get their "salary" and that's it. Lucky people will get medical/dental for them and their family, life for themselves, and a basic 401k with job security.

Not many people will be able to understand a 6 figure base salary; profit sharing; expense accounts; benefits; compensatory, severance, early termination clauses; and bonuses, as part of a "pay package".

This, combined with the experience he's gained in this position, qualifies him for some cush job at a country club as the resident pro once hes tired of the "tour" lifestyle.

"Pro" at a "country club" at 65 years old, base salary of 85k to sit in an office, and then do privates every once in a while for $85/h 2-3 times a week.

They are very well compensated.

[floridatennisdude]

Originally Posted by cmb

lol please dont compare a NCAA college tennis coach to a CEO, big schools are paid wayyyyy too much! and mid major and 3rd tier d1 school coaches make total crap!, i guess if you can find a solid deal its around 40k a year

I illustrated how they are paid significantly less than a CEO, yet live a public and scrutinized lifestyle. And they run a similar risk of having worked their last job, ever. I take it you didn't study Econ? It's the theory that's the same, but the values are disproportionate.

Not sure who would do it for 40k. You could give lessons at a local park and earn that in a year.

[goran_ace]

Originally Posted by cmb

mid major and 3rd tier d1 school coaches make total crap!, i guess if you can find a solid deal its around 40k a year

Yeah Florida, USC, Illinois, these are the big-time programs with huge budgets. Mid-major and small DI you might see more part-time coaches who still teach at a club on the side or one full-time head coach/director that handles both the men's and women's teams, and they rely heavily on assistant/associate coaches or graduate assistants.

[slice bh compliment]

Originally Posted by NTRPolice

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"Pro" at a "country club" at 65 years old, base salary of 85k to sit in an office, and then do privates every once in a while for $85/h 2-3 times a week.

They are very well compensated.

What about all the members she or he has to keep happy? That's probably most of the reason he gets 'so PAID'!

[floridatennisdude]

Originally Posted by slice bh compliment

What about all the members she or he has to keep happy? That's probably most of the reason he gets 'so PAID'!

Agree, I don't think many high level college coaches desire to be country club pros giving clinics to grandmas. Maybe a lower tier coach would milk it, but the big shots want to be working with high level players.

So, school has to decide if they want the best coach or not. If yea, it takes a big check. If no, they won't get the best. Simple "arms race" theory.

[Satsuma Illini]

Originally Posted by floridatennisdude

Agree, I don't think many high level college coaches desire to be country club pros giving clinics to grandmas. Maybe a lower tier coach would milk it, but the big shots want to be working with high level players.

So, school has to decide if they want the best coach or not. If yea, it takes a big check. If no, they won't get the best. Simple "arms race" theory.

Some would like, some would not. Mats Wilander gets a blast running around the country in a Winnebago giving lessons to clubbers. Of course he will never be hurting for money I suppose. Unless you're business savvy like Bjorn Borg.

Anyway, my point it do what you enjoy if you have the luxury of doing that. Most of us don't.

[bobbything]

I was offered the head coach position at UMKC (University of Missouri-Kansas City) about 10 years ago. They're D1. The job paid nothing. That's right, it paid $0.00 per year. However, they offered to allow me to get my Masters for free there.

Three of my friends have taken them up on their offer though.

[Satsuma Illini]

Originally Posted by bobbything

I was offered the head coach position at UMKC (University of Missouri-Kansas City) about 10 years ago. They're D1. The job paid nothing. That's right, it paid $0.00 per year. However, they offered to allow me to get my Masters for free there.

Three of my friends have taken them up on their offer though.

So what happens after you finish your Masters?

"Congratulations! You're fired!"

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by Satsuma Illini

So what happens after you finish your Masters?

"Congratulations! You're fired!"

Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. I would assume they'll just find someone else to come in. I've never seen a coach last longer than 2 years there. Like I said, I had three friends take the job to get their degrees and then hightail it out of there. One guy I actually can't believe they hired. He was one of the most unorganized people I've ever met. One year he took the men's and women's team to play another school. However, he failed to do actually ask the other coach if they had both a men's and women's team. Turns out they only had a women's team. Another time he took the teams to go play another school out of state and it turned out that the match was scheduled in KC.

I would imagine that a good salesman could come in and convince them to pay up pending good results. But, they have no real direct revenue stream there. They're under the University of Missouri tree, so that's where much of their athletic funding comes from. There is no football to bring in $$, and it's a school located right in the middle of Kansas City; which is less than 90 minutes from KU, MU, and K-State. This renders UMKC a glorified JUCO. Due to these factors, there isn't a real sense of "college" there.

It's really a strange university. It's nice, and has one of the only dental schools around, but it's kind of a last resort type school. A place you go if you don't go to KU, MU, or K-State. A place for athletes who aren't good enough for solid D1, or who don't want to pay good D2.