Ferrer to be ranked higher than Nadal after the Australian Open?

[tata]

Even if he doesn't get ahead of Rafa before AO, Rafa still has a final to defend, and that's coming off 6 months of no play.

[Daized]

If Ferrer gets number 4 somehow, it's possible to have a side of the draw be utter hell for murray fed or djoker. Imagine having nadal in your quarter .

[joeri888]

Originally Posted by Daized

If Ferrer gets number 4 somehow, it's possible to have a side of the draw be utter hell for murray fed or djoker. Imagine having nadal in your quarter .

Yeah, would be refreshing, because it would give players like Ferrer and Delpo a good shot to make some stronger runs in Slams.

Djoker-Nadal quarterfinal at the AO would be a joy! See those two go at it for 6 hours with a fresh Delpo waiting in the semis, would make some tourneys more interesting.

[sdont]

Originally Posted by Steve0904

Yes I believe so. It says on the ATP website that DC is 625 pts, and Ferrer has 295 pts from that last year, but I have no idea how it actually works.

Ferrer has 220 points from this year in DC, +75 points from last year's final, which will be replaced by the points he earns in the final this year (75 for each live rubber win).

He did not participate in the 1st round, so cannot gain any bonus. At best, he will end 2012 with 370 points for DC.

[CMM]

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[kOaMaster]

Originally Posted by sdont

Ferrer has 220 points from this year in DC, +75 points from last year's final, which will be replaced by the points he earns in the final this year (75 for each live rubber win).

He did not participate in the 1st round, so cannot gain any bonus. At best, he will end 2012 with 370 points for DC.

how many will rafa lose (he's got 220 atm)?

[sdont]

Originally Posted by kOaMaster

how many will rafa lose (he's got 220 atm)?

Nadal's got 150 points right now from last year's final. He'll lose them unless he plays in the final this year.

[tennis_pro]

Originally Posted by sdont

Nadal's got 150 points right now from last year's final. He'll lose them unless he plays in the final this year.

Either way Ferrer is in a perfect position to be ranked higher than Nadal, if not at the end of 2012 (although I give him a 20-30 % of that currently), then after the Australian Open.

[Tennis_Hands]

Originally Posted by joeri888

Yeah, would be refreshing, because it would give players like Ferrer and Delpo a good shot to make some stronger runs in Slams.

Djoker-Nadal quarterfinal at the AO would be a joy! See those two go at it for 6 hours with a fresh Delpo waiting in the semis, would make some tourneys more interesting.

What would be even more interesting is a Federer-Nadal QF.

Bring it on!

[joeri888]

Originally Posted by Tennis_Hands

What would be even more interesting is a Federer-Nadal QF.

Bring it on!

Lol, yeah. Though a bit quicker surface would be welcome.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by joeri888

Yeah, would be refreshing, because it would give players like Ferrer and Delpo a good shot to make some stronger runs in Slams. Djoker-Nadal quarterfinal at the AO would be a joy! See those two go at it for 6 hours with a fresh Delpo waiting in the semis, would make some tourneys more interesting.

If they can't get through the slams without help from Nadal's injury woes,than they don't deserve it,and it's anything but "refreshing". Pathetic people on this board just keep getting even more pathetic.

[joeri888]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

If they can't get through the slams without help from Nadal's injury woes,than they don't deserve it,and it's anything but "refreshing". Pathetic people on this board just keep getting even more pathetic.

Why would you call me pathetic for just wanting to see other people make runs? I don't care about the same players playing over and over. I like to see different matchups, on REALLY different surfaces, not giving us a clue what's gonna happen next time. Tennis has become very predictable the last 10 years.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by joeri888

Why would you call me pathetic for just wanting to see other people make runs? I don't care about the same players playing over and over. I like to see different matchups, on REALLY different surfaces, not giving us a clue what's gonna happen next time. Tennis has become very predictable the last 10 years.

Because this is not the only reason. It's Nadal hate,and nothing else.

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

If they can't get through the slams without help from Nadal's injury woes,than they don't deserve it,and it's anything but "refreshing". Pathetic people on this board just keep getting even more pathetic.

Well surely Nadal doesn't deserve to be in finals when he just gets his arse beaten by Djokovic, if he's out it gives other people a chance who will do a much better job than nadal right?

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Towser83

Well surely Nadal doesn't deserve to be in finals when he just gets his arse beaten by Djokovic, if he's out it gives other people a chance who will do a much better job than nadal right?

Right,but I also don't like to see gloating about other player's having a "refreshing" chance to go deep in slams because Nadal's ranking dropped due to injury. If you can't get where I am coming from on this then I don't know what to tell you.

[joeri888]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Because this is not the only reason. It's Nadal hate,and nothing else.

It's not. As you may know, I am a big Federer fan, above being a tennisfan. After that, I don't care if it's Nadal, Djoker or Murray who falls. I like new faces and think tennis needs them. I loved Paris last week. You on the other hand, just hate tennis but love Nadal.

Even if it's Federer facing Nadal in a quarter, however scary that is.. I'd like the dynamics to change. I don't ever said I like Nadal to be injured. Au contraire. However, a ranking change can lead to some possible interesting events next year. I don't see how my post constitutes as pathetic. Certainly coming from you with your negativity towards Nadal, that says a lot. You said worse things about Rafa than I ever did, but it's okay since you love him secretly right?

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by joeri888

It's not. As you may know, I am a big Federer fan, above being a tennisfan. After that, I don't care if it's Nadal, Djoker or Murray who falls. I like new faces and think tennis needs them. I loved Paris last week. You on the other hand, just hate tennis but love Nadal.

Even if it's Federer facing Nadal in a quarter, however scary that is.. I'd like the dynamics to change. I don't ever said I like Nadal to be injured. Au contraire. However, a ranking change can lead to some possible interesting events next year. I don't see how my post constitutes as pathetic. Certainly coming from you with your negativity towards Nadal, that says a lot. You said worse things about Rafa than I ever did, but it's okay since you love him secretly right?

I really hope that happens if Nadal is going to drop to #5.

[joeri888]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

I really hope that happens if Nadal is going to drop to #5.

It would sure be good for tennis (even tho, I'm even more of a Federer than a tennisfan, which I never made a secret of).

[tacou]

how long would ferrer keep it? could nadal win FO as #5 seed??

Originally Posted by tacou

how long would ferrer keep it? could nadal win FO as #5 seed??

Draws for Nadal on clay are meaningless. The only current player with an outside shot against him at the FO is Djokovic. Imagine Federer, Murray, Del Potro, Ferrer, or Berdych beating Nadal at Roland Garros, ROTFL!