How to deal with side spin?

[Nellie]

I know what you mean that the shot is difficult to play because that shot usually comes from a big cut with a western grip (ball contact way, way, out in front), so if you guess wrong with the side spin, the point is over. I guess the best advice is that you need to pressure the forehand to keep the opponent from having time to hit bombs.

[Cheetah]

Why the sudden interest in dealing with sidespin suresh? heheheh

[cluckcluck]

If it's a solid shot coming to the forehand side, I sometimes use a fh slice, nothing hard but just enough to get it deep. Absorb it if you can.

[dominikk1985]

Originally Posted by sureshs

I don't have a problem with sliced side spin. In fact, I return them with sliced side spin or topspin. I should have clarified.

It is the topspin-sidespin combination I am talking about.

How many players can hit a side-topspin? are you a DI player? otherwise I would say it is so rare that you can ignore it (most TS strokes have a very light Sidespin component but nothing heavy).


In table tennis (were side spin has a much bigger role than in tennis) they say you should counter spin with the same opposite spin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQuR6lMJnLU

[dominikk1985]

btw are you talking about inside out sidespin (as LeeD stated often happens on a high ball) or outside curve spin like in the table tennis video.

[treblings]

Originally Posted by sureshs

Give me some tips

the important skill is being able to correctly evaluate what kind of ball is coming your way.
once you´re good at that all that is left is footwork

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by treblings

the important skill is being able to correctly evaluate what kind of ball is coming your way.
once you´re good at that all that is left is footwork

That is why I am asking about the first sentence

[Mick3391]

Originally Posted by sureshs

Give me some tips

He asked about SIDE SPIN, not slice or topspin.

Once in awhile I hit with huge side spin, when the ball lands it skirts over a few feet.

The key to pick up huge side spin is to WAIT. If you see your opponent cut the ball heavy to the right or left, get in position, wait, then when it goes 3 feet to say your left, move then take it.

It's funny because I think I have this monster side spin, I use it all the time. When I play my son, who's only 12, because he's used to it, he waits, can't trick him anymore

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by Cheetah

Why the sudden interest in dealing with sidespin suresh? heheheh

Originally Posted by dominikk1985

How many players can hit a side-topspin? are you a DI player? otherwise I would say it is so rare that you can ignore it (most TS strokes have a very light Sidespin component but nothing heavy).


In table tennis (were side spin has a much bigger role than in tennis) they say you should counter spin with the same opposite spin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQuR6lMJnLU

Answer to second quote can be found implicitly in the first quote.

I know about the same spin theory in table tennis and it is used mainly on the serve. The rule is to push back towards the side the server's swing originated. It amounts to playing with the spin, not against it.

The first problem is tennis is that the opponent is too far across and moving to be able to determine the spin from the stroke easily.

Second is that the coefficient of restitution is not high enough in tennis strings to get the ball back without conscious effort. But I see what you are saying and I do try it - e.g., a forehand ball going away from the body with side spin is amenable to a DTL shot, which means going with the spin.

But what is the general solution?

So far what I have got is to read and wait, then to get low and hit through the ball. But the movement of the ball in the air as well as its creeping effect on the strings is bothering me.

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by dominikk1985

btw are you talking about inside out sidespin (as LeeD stated often happens on a high ball) or outside curve spin like in the table tennis video.

Both, but not with underspin

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by cluckcluck

If it's a solid shot coming to the forehand side, I sometimes use a fh slice, nothing hard but just enough to get it deep. Absorb it if you can.

I do that but it seems defensive

[Mick3391]

Originally Posted by sureshs

I do that but it seems defensive

Perhaps none of these people have had true side spin, true side spin when it lands scoot 3-4 feet to your left, the key is not how to hit it but your body position.

You can hist top, flat, or backspin, doesn't matter, what matters is being in position if we are talking about the same thing.

[Cheetah]

hit thru the ball more. angle the face to opposite direction of spin to counter spin.

[cluckcluck]

Originally Posted by sureshs

I do that but it seems defensive

Sometimes the best defense, is actually the best offense.

[NLBwell]

Originally Posted by LeeD

You have no humor whatsoever. You are an engineer, or scientist type.
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LeeD, why are you picking on engineers. We have the best sense of humor as well as refined artistic tastes. Who do you think buys Frank Zappa music?

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by NLBwell

We have the best sense of humor as well as refined artistic tastes. Who do you think buys Frank Zappa music?

Lol..thats gold. Haha.

[treblings]

Originally Posted by sureshs

That is why I am asking about the first sentence

but sureshs..it´s play tennis not talk tennis that let´s you improve
tennis is not a science as much as a sport, go out and do it don´t overcomplicate things

[vil]

From the stroke of your opponent, if you watch closely enough, you should be able to have a pretty good idea where the ball will kick after the bounce. It's all about your footwork adjustment. To me it's more important to know what will happen to the ball after the bounce rather than during it's flight path.

[LeeD]

I don't pick on engineers and scientists. My current g/f is head scientist for the micro biology lab here in AlbanyCa., USDA.
PowerPlayer, who thinks he's an artist, thinks like an engineer. A + B MUST = C, no other possible answer. And, "if I turn 12 degrees left, internally supinate, the ball WILL GO faster and stronger"...
That's PPlayer's thinking. And when he reads a post, he takes it literally. Like I think I can stand in to hit with Stosur. I already said countless times I'm a 4.0. As a 4.0, out of 10 groundies she hits to me, I can shank 3 off the court, hit 4 short and weak back, and hit the net 3 times, just like the guy in the vid did. As can YOU, as can PowerPlayer, as can almost anyone here.
Now if Nalbandian was hitting to me, I'd do twice as badly, because he hits with depth and is not trying to hit easy to start with. I might just shank 7, dump 2 into the net, and hit one long.
NOW, PowerPlayer will come back and say I can't hit 4 back, but in reality, only 3. That's how PowerPlayer thinks, and that's why his thread on his service motion will never be resolved.

[Larrysümmers]

the side spin is what i really notice when playing better players. the best advice is be ready, move your feet to put your hands in the position to make the play.