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Option 2. At this point every major is great but is 19 going to be that much better than 18? If no one else beats Fed's slam count then it doesn't matter.Nadal could get close to it, even get 17 but Fed getting all those things in option 2 would put him above Nadal anyway.
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Option 2 - the singles gold medal is the defining point there. That would end any objections people have about him not completely fulfilling his career goals, not to mention beating Nadal at RG/overtaking the head to head.
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A Title from a Major is times more valuable than an OG medal. Besides, Federer is highly decorated Olympian as it is, so. This leaves us with the other accomplishments: DC win. Although a nice thing to have in your resume it still is a team effort. It is not a personal achievement. Another YE#1. Nice, but Federer will be sharing this record. H2H with Nadal. While having a positive H2H with your main rival is nice, it is nowhere as significant as all the other things, that constitute a successfull singles career. What counts are the titles and the overall dominance. So, basically one, who is choosing option numer one is trading an OG and a shared record (the things that would really matter in someone's singles career) against 1 Major Title and a record number of titles at two of the four Majors (Wimbledon 8, US Open 6 or AO 5) in the Open era. I think, that that is a pretty good tradeoff. And, even if Federer ticks all the boxes from option 2, there will still be morons, to claim more and more things, that he hasn't done, in an effort to bring him down.
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He won't do any of those things so who cares.
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Option 2.....Just beating Nadal at the French Open final is enough....way more worth than winning 2 other majors.
At least in the history books.....facing Nadal wasn't always for naught.
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I value one Grand Slam over every head-to-head record in the world but this is different. Beating Nadal at Roland Garros is a magical achievement. I actually value it more than winning the French Open, even though it's, in reality, just a match. I don't know what Federer would choose but I'd choose 2. I don't care about the Gold or the head-to-head against Nadal, just that win over Nadal at Roland Garros.
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WTF you talking about?
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Vehicle Warehouse discussion board that way ----------->
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Consider yourself lucky. It's the middle of the day here in Melbourne and I'm at work wishing I was near my bedroom door.
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I'm aware he is suggesting one is more obvious than the other, but which is that in his opinion? Not everyone has chosen the same option.
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I designed it to be like that. My op questions just how much value you would place on one major.
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Or how little there is, to match that value.
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Of course.
But that's why I wanted to make it evenly matched as possible. One extra slam for Federer...or...everything that he has not won.
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In about 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000001 seconds I chose option 2. A second RG title is what I want Roger to achieve the most, and I value other records in tennis than just how many Slam events one has won. Today's naive and misinformed perception of the hierarchy of achievements and their magnitude will eventually change, I'm quite sure. Things like overall tournaments won, time as the number 1 player, general versatility of achievements, they all matter too. Option 2 just provides too many excellent achievements, so I can't turn it down.
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