I'm The Rudest Hooker!

[jaybear1909]

Originally Posted by woodrow1029

That's like telling Weird Al Yankovic that he can't get credit for a great song because it's someone else's.

Weird Al makes great songs?

Oh yeah, Hardware Store. Now that one's a classic!

[jaybear1909]

Originally Posted by NTRPolice

I dont think this thread is funny at all. I find this thread quite disturbing.

The OP is the exact kinda person I can see who follows a little old lady home after she "obviously" cuts him off and intends on giving her a piece of his mind. After he jumps out of his car and startling her hes so proud that when questioning her about her lane change she offers no explanation to his satisfaction.

You're a poor judge of character. I'd obviously have a gun out while I was walking up to her car.

Those little old ladies think they can rule the road!

[KineticChain]

tennis is a game of class, honor, and diplomacy. Only the most scholarly of gentlemen shall play this activity called tennis. There shall be no jumping of any nature as this would be considered unsportsmanlike and "rude" in this activity for the elites. should my eyes happen to fall upon such a monstrosity of a gentleman "jumping over the net", I'd faint and wither away from the rudeness.

[OrangePower]

Originally Posted by jaybear1909

But I saw JMac do it!

If you're going to intentionally call the ball out because neither you nor your wife could reach it, I think that's wrong. I guess I could have just asked from my side of the net, but it wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

Darn my young legs.

Na, JMac would just claim that he saw chalkdust, nevermind that it's a hard court!

Obviously cheating is wrong, and it's frustrating when your opponents cheat. Although I personally think it happens far less than (some) people think it does.

At any rate, if you feel you are being cheated, your only recourse is to ask your opponents "are you sure?". By asking this multiple times, and your tone of voice, you are basically telling your opponents that you think they are cheating you on calls. This may shame them into making better calls, not. But either way you are ultimately at their mercy.

[sureshs]

Thread has become interesting

[Joeyg]

Originally Posted by woodrow1029

You should see the chairs in Memphis and San Jose, with no stairs. They have to bring out either a ladder or some blocks to make steps for us to get up there.

You won't have to worry about San Jose much longer, buddy.

[woodrow1029]

Originally Posted by Joeyg

You won't have to worry about San Jose much longer, buddy.

True, true.

[El Diablo]

"Tonight was my girlfriend and I's final mixed match"?? If you're going to violate rules and jump to the other side of the court, let's at least be literate. When in doubt about multiple subjects, eliminate one >> "Tonight was I's final mixed match." Sound good? Didn't think so >> "tonight was my girlfriend and my final mixed match." Correct, but akwardness is best handled by rewriting >> "Tonight was the final mixed match for my girlfriend and me." That's better!!

[beernutz]

Originally Posted by jaybear1909

Thanks, lol.

You know you have lost your argument when sureshs starts agreeing with you. He is the ultimate barometer of bad judgement.

[ChadW]

Originally Posted by samarai

Its recreational tennis, there are no line judges, no instant replay. Hopefully no money involved. If both of your opponents call it out, then its out. You may question their call and put a thought in their minds to be more efficient in their calls but that's about it. You move on and play the next point.

Nail on the head there.

And Jay, I'm pretty sure I've played you and your girlfriend before (in a very tough 3-set semi-final). Sorry you're taking so much heat here. You were a tough, but cordial oppoenent then, and I'm sure you're youthful zeal was misplaced here, but you've taken responsibility and realized you were wrong.

We all know that calls are missed on occassion. We all hope that it happens without malice, or ill-intent. Though, there remains the fact that cheaters exist. Beating them at their own game is one approach, but it'll leave as bad a taste as losing to them will. Question the call, then move on and get it back on the next one (or two.)

Hope you've learned from this despite all the mud-slinging.

[704Pusher]

Originally Posted by El Diablo

"Tonight was my girlfriend and I's final mixed match"?? If you're going to violate rules and jump to the other side of the court, let's at least be literate. When in doubt about multiple subjects, eliminate one >> "Tonight was I's final mixed match." Sound good? Didn't think so >> "tonight was my girlfriend and my final mixed match." Correct, but akwardness is best handled by rewriting >> "Tonight was the final mixed match for my girlfriend and me." That's better!!

That was awesome!

[Avles]

Originally Posted by jaybear1909

In the third set that's how it went about. I just asked if they were being honest and the woman was furious to any objection.

Net jumping aside, I think this idea is part of the problem here. There's actually no such thing as "just asking someone if they're being honest." The act of asking carries an accusation with it, and you can expect people to respond as though they were being directly accused.

[jaybear1909]

Originally Posted by ChadW

Nail on the head there.

And Jay, I'm pretty sure I've played you and your girlfriend before (in a very tough 3-set semi-final). Sorry you're taking so much heat here. You were a tough, but cordial oppoenent then, and I'm sure you're youthful zeal was misplaced here, but you've taken responsibility and realized you were wrong.

We all know that calls are missed on occassion. We all hope that it happens without malice, or ill-intent. Though, there remains the fact that cheaters exist. Beating them at their own game is one approach, but it'll leave as bad a taste as losing to them will. Question the call, then move on and get it back on the next one (or two.)

Hope you've learned from this despite all the mud-slinging.

Yes I remember you! Are you guys still playing together?

Thanks for your constructive post.

[tennis tom]

Originally Posted by KineticChain

tennis is a game of class, honor, and diplomacy. Only the most scholarly of gentlemen shall play this activity called tennis. There shall be no jumping of any nature as this would be considered unsportsmanlike and "rude" in this activity for the elites. should my eyes happen to fall upon such a monstrosity of a gentleman "jumping over the net", I'd faint and wither away from the rudeness.

Is that Henry VIII you're quoting? He was an avid tennis player.

[ChadW]

Originally Posted by jaybear1909

Yes I remember you! Are you guys still playing together?

Thanks for your constructive post.

No. She went off to play in college and left me in the dust of her killer backhand!

[jaybear1909]

Originally Posted by ChadW

No. She went off to play in college and left me in the dust of her killer backhand!

ROFL I definitely remember her blowing a few of those backhands by me. Hope she does well in college.

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by beernutz

You know you have lost your argument when sureshs starts agreeing with you. He is the ultimate barometer of bad judgement.

I heard what you said

[Wakenslam]

Originally Posted by jaybear1909

Let me begin by saying I am by no means a hooker (ignore thread title). I call the ball as I see it fair (and more often than not give calls that I should have taken). So let's begin:

Tonight was the final mixed match for my girlfriend and me (thanks El Diablo). It was going to decide who won the division. We arrived at the HARD courts and they were still very damp from the rain earlier this afternoon. We just decided to play with it (really wasn't bad) and soon learned that the balls left really good marks in the water. Great, so no one could cheat. Right?

Everything went smooth up until 5-4. I was serving out the set. There had been some iffy calls made, but with the ball marks clearly showing, no one objected. We go up 40-15, 2 set points. We get in a rally and our opponents both are playing baseline (why, I do not know). My girlfriend gets a forehand and hits it right down the middle. Neither of the opponents went for it. I saw it hit very close, and the man called it out. I then proceeded to jump over the net (okay, I could have walked around) and asked nicely if they could show me the mark. I was smiling, and had no intentions of being rude. The woman about freaking died! Firstly, she showed me a mark that was WAY away from the mark he showed me. Then she proceeded to tell me how rude I was for not honoring their call.

Of course we started arguing a little. I just explained to her that I was confirming it was out, I was not dishonoring anyone's calls (granted I saw no mark out ). She smarted off about 100 times and we dished it back out. Next point, I served and it went wide. She says "Do you think that one was in??" My girlfriend said "I can see it was out, thanks!". Second serve, we get into a rally. I end up hitting a shot to the man's forehand and he hits it just wide. Me and my girlfriend both call this shot wide. They immediately think we're cheating. I showed him where the ball hit, but he wouldn't hear it.

Second set we were just trying to calm down. Went down 2-5, came back to 5-5 and then lost it. Third set went up 3-0, then 5-4, my serve again. Shi* hit the fan my friends! They called 2 let balls (both clearly in) and a baseline shot out. Neither of us argued. We called 2 of their shots out (I saw them both out, and we had marks to prove it) and they went nuts.

At this point I was aiming for heads (no I didn't hit any, just an expression). We ended up winning the third 6-4. They had no intention of shaking our hands. I walked over and stuck my hand out, only to get a blank stare. Finally the woman shook mine furiously, and proceeded to tell me I was a great player. Then she says that me jumping over the net in the first set was the rudest thing she's ever witnessed. I told her that no matter how I got around the net, that I could legally look for the mark. She asked what I would do had I found a mark in and I said, "If I found it in, I'd show you, and if you still proceeded to call the ball out that's your call."

Am I really in the wrong for jumping over the net? I just wanted to see the mark (it was a very important point). I never saw the mark, but didn't argue. Just was showing them that I wasn't afraid to object. Regardless of how I get over there, I feel it's legal to look for a mark.

In all honesty, I think she's just jealous because she can't jump over the net .

*And we won by the way

An opponent jumping over the net after a contentious call would cause me to end the match immediately. You can't do that. Period.

[floridatennisdude]

Originally Posted by Wakenslam

An opponent jumping over the net after a contentious call would cause me to end the match immediately. You can't do that. Period.

Or to just clock him like he's Rudy Tomjonovic.

[michael_1265]

OP, I understand how you feel, but you just can't do that. The other side of the court belongs to them, and some people would be very threatened by that kind of action. Honestly, if you did that to me, my first take would be that you were probably coming over to throw down. The concept of "space" is well-defined in tennis, and it is that way for a reason. Live with the fact that you are going to get screwed over now and then. There is nothing you can do about it. Grace while dealing with an injustice that you cannot fix is one of the characteristics you should strive for.