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#441 | |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Austin, hook 'em, Texas
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"We" don't have the vast history in composite racket manufacturing like our Euro friends; but, I can imagine some stockpiles of Head, Wilson, Dunlop, Davis(may have been 'discovered' already) or even Spalding frames are behind some locked door...collecting dust...waiting to be discovered |
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#442 | |
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Join Date: May 2011
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History of the factory here: http://aegisbicycles.com/about.html
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Prince Tour Diablo Mid - Iontec Black 1.20 @ 45 - Wilson Pro Overgrip Last edited by jonestim : 10-23-2012 at 09:18 PM. |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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http://www.tennistravelclub.com - Tennis Travel Club-Find a tennis club when you travel for work or vacation |
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As I recall, it was an all-day trip to get there from Burlington. The last two legs of the trip were on 'Scare' New England (as Air New England was known then) and Bar Harbor Airlines...with the final bit a drive up from Presque Isle. Back then, it was easy to drive across into Canada for a meal and back within an hour or so.
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#445 | |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: the Netherlands
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is being auctioned off but this version is a Rossignol "The Touch" (Made in the USA). They did have many frames made in the USA so it just might be the same frame, different name.
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2x MAX 200G PRO, Nat.Gut/Ferry Force Super Touch at 58 lbs. Last edited by Hannah19 : 10-24-2012 at 09:31 AM. Reason: spelling |
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#446 |
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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Thanks for the heads-up, Hans! Yes, that Rossignol frame seems to be a very close match to the Durafiber I picked up. However, I noticed that it has a denser string pattern (16x20) than that of the DF (16x18 ). This is not a stringer artifact - I counted 64 grommets on the Rossignol, whereas the DF only has 58. My guess is that these two frames are likely fraternal twins rather than exact clones.
Incidentally, I came across another PS85 this week at one of my fishing spots. This one is really worn (though not broken), and I was going to pass on it due to the condition. However, when I lifted the stringer sticker on the butt cap, I could vaguely make out the letters "JWB". I didn't have my reading glasses with me to clearly see the 'B', but those tiny and widely spaced letters are distinct enough from the later iterations that I knew instantly - thanks to what I had learned on this board - that this is a Couvin frame. ![]() The semi-glossy paint, the single sticker with the moderate tension range - everything is just as others had previously described regarding this model. However, I've also noticed that my Couvin frame has a significantly more rounded contour than the sharply chiseled look of the later models. This is especially obvious around the PWS bumps. If this characteristic is unique to the Couvin frames, then it would indicate that Wilson didn't simply ship the molds from Couvin to Chicago when they switched production sites, but that they had in fact made a new mold for the Chicago frame that incorporated small adjustments. |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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^ Fascinating! (Perhaps as an engineer,) I really appreciate the attention to detail 'Sanglier' takes in his (her?) posts in our little forum here. Thanks for taking the time and effort to document what I find to be a very interesting little detail!
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Psalm 100:4 Last edited by retrowagen : 10-24-2012 at 01:45 PM. |
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#448 |
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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Thanks, Retro! I only became a racquetholic and thrifting addict in the past year. My visits here allow me to learn from those who are similarly afflicted, and share what I have with the community. I've tried very hard to convince myself that as long as I am sharing (even if only virtually), I would not cross the dreaded threshold of becoming a hoarder - because as I see it, a hoarder is an extremely indiscriminate and imprudent collector who is pathologically averse to sharing...
As for my gender, I think it's quite clear that only men (with the possible exception of Virginia?) are predisposed to develop such fascination for the history and architecture of discarded sports equipment. |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: the Netherlands
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According to Michel Guilluy, a Donnay historian and good friend, Couvin was a proving ground to develop the braided graphite production process. They could not have chosen a worst site since Donnay had absolutely no clue how to deal with modern materials such as graphite etc. They were behind in this technology for they had only produced wooden rackets so far but since Donnay and Wilson had been involved in previous years, Donnay produced many wooden frames for Wilson, they figured it would be a nice hidden place to try this out. The PS 85 moulds did stay behind in Couvin and at a later stage Donnay used them to make the Pro Cynetic range with the same braided graphite/kevlar mix as the PS 85 but without the PWS. If you compare your Belgium PS 85 with a Pro Cynetic 1 you will be astound by the similar moulding marks.
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2x MAX 200G PRO, Nat.Gut/Ferry Force Super Touch at 58 lbs. Last edited by Hannah19 : 10-24-2012 at 01:41 PM. Reason: spelling |
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#451 |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Visited one of my usual happy hunting grounds this evening, and was surprised to find a decent Cragin Garcia Pro 240 (with two-handed perforated leather grip), and a very nice Futabaya Maximum (with its original cover!). Also a pair of well-worn Maxply Forts, one of which was a Medium 4-3/4". Now that's a Man's racquet! (or, a manly woman's?)
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#452 |
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: triad north carolina
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Found a Black Max II for 9.99 at a thrift. Instant Love. Played it with crappy nylon strings and it played better than my modern Donnay Golds.
Missed the power, of the Donnay, but placement much better. Impossible shots also happening more. Ima putting on Volkl powerfibre II 17 g at 55 lbs for starters. Ill get it back tomorrow. Wish I had some gut strings, but I'm already spending too much on tennis. Got a Yonex r-22 light today also. It aint light. feels like a battle axe but compact. Hope I can play it. BTW, it seems like every player i speak to these days has injuries due to poly strings. Class action anyone ? Lots of lawyers play tennis ya know. Barry |
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#453 |
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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I got the following:
GTX Pro/Pro Staff from Belgium/2 N-Code Tour 90's/N-code 6.1 95/2 Becker Super's/Head Elite Pro/several Max 200G's/White Star Masters/Rossignol F-200/Pro Staff Classic 6.1/Hyper Pro Staff 6.1/iPrestige Mid/ 3 wilson aggressor's/2 R-7's/R-22/Hammer Classic 5.2/2 Head XRC's/Fischer Vacuum 90/Yamaha Secret 4 & 6/Babolat Pure Drive/Pro Staff 7.1/Pro Staff Stars & Stripes 95/Chang Titanium/Head Master Pro/ and lots of lesser knowns |
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#454 |
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Bend, OR
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Picked up a Donnay Borg Pro Midsize in grip 3. Second one, but this does not have a head cover, has a touch more head rash and has non-original strings.
Also grabbed another Wilson Jack Kramer Staff. This one is not as nice as the one I picked up a couple months ago that was in great shape. The headguard is cracked and there are a few more chips. Passed on a CTS Approach 90.
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Prince Tour Diablo Mid - Iontec Black 1.20 @ 45 - Wilson Pro Overgrip |
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#455 |
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Richmond, VA
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I found a minty Head 660 Calibre today. It seems like a plain-jane widebody from the early 1990s, but for $2........
Anybody ever use this racquet? ![]()
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Babolat PDGT w/Solinco Revolution 18 @ 30lbs |
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Peak of Good Living
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That Calibre reminds me a little bit of the Head Orion 660 I used with when I started playing-- it was a freebie from the ex-roommate of a roommate. I was such a noob that I didn't realize that it had no grip and I hit with the bare handle for a couple of months.
I picked up a Pro Kennex Bronze Ace ($2) and Graphite Presence ($3) at the thrift store today. I have no use for these racquets and no place to put them but when I see a playable racquet that cheap some sort of primal instinct kicks in and I have to buy it. |
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Carrollton, GA
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Found two Babolat Pure Storm Teams (orange and black one) at Goodwill yesterday. They just need to grommets and they'll be 8/10 condition
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Location: Richmond, VA
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That is a first to me. I have never seen a Babolat at Goodwill.
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Babolat PDGT w/Solinco Revolution 18 @ 30lbs |
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#459 |
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Maybe the poster has a time machine and was visiting a Goodwill in the year 2027. In the big cardboard barrel, jammed in among miscellaneous massive-headed golf clubs, are a bunch of ground down Babolats. The donators of said racquets are in the market for the new nanobionic elbow implants. Plus, it more fun to play "virtual tennis" on any holographic video game station with virtual friends off the ultrainternet.
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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