Barring the seperation of his parents, is it impossible for Nadal to lose at RG?

[RF20Lennon]

LOL this troll is in full force

[veroniquem]

Lol another grand Clarky contribution to Nadal's legacy. Djoko would never have lost to Rafa on clay if it had not been for his grandpa. It must be a pleasure for Nadal to have such dedicated fans

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

Lol another grand Clarky contribution to Nadal's legacy. Djoko would never have lost to Rafa on clay if it had not been for his grandpa. It must be a pleasure for Nadal to have such dedicated fans

Sorry,but it's what I believe. Being the dedicated Cvac fan you are you should know his Grandpa's death messed him up for some time.


Also,it must be a pleasure for Fed to have such dedicated haters such as yourself. You've turned Fed hating into an art form,and are a bigger Fed hater than you are a Nadal fan.

[Mustard]

Nadal was absolutely formidable on clay this year, far superior to his 2011 clay-court form. In 2011, Nadal was just doing enough to win matches on clay (unconvincingly), and got beaten twice by Djokovic in clay finals. It wasn't until the latter stages of the 2011 French Open that he started playing well, and Djokovic was taken out by Federer (so all the better).

In 2012, apart from the blue clay fiasco in Madrid, Nadal was absolutely dominant. He won Monte Carlo without dropping a set, won Barcelona without dropping a set, won Rome without dropping a set, got to the French Open final without dropping a set, and then beat Djokovic in 4 sets to win a 7th French Open and thwart the Djokovic Slam.

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Sorry,but it's what I believe. Being the dedicated Cvac fan you are you should know his Grandpa's death messed him up for some time.


Also,it must be a pleasure for Fed to have such dedicated haters such as yourself. You've turned Fed hating into an art form,and are a bigger Fed hater than you are a Nadal fan.

You also have a problem with irony. What makes you a troll is pretending to be a fan of a player you like nothing about, least of all his game. And you don't have to keep repeating how much I prefer Djoko to Fed. I keep repeating it myself, so everybody knows it.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Mustard

Nadal was absolutely formidable on clay this year, far superior to his 2011 clay-court form. In 2011, Nadal was just doing enough to win matches on clay (unconvincingly), and got beaten twice by Djokovic in clay finals. It wasn't until the latter stages of the 2011 French Open that he started playing well, and Djokovic was taken out by Federer (so all the better).

In 2012, apart from the blue clay fiasco in Madrid, Nadal was absolutely dominant. He won Monte Carlo without dropping a set, won Barcelona without dropping a set, won Rome without dropping a set, got to the French Open final without dropping a set, and then beat Djokovic in 4 sets to win a 7th French Open and thwart the Djokovic Slam.

Yep.

The curious thing is I'd have thought Clarky looked like she agreed a while ago, going by her posts (about how Djokovic would and should have lost in three sets if not for the rain, etc.). And now she's saying Novak lost only because of his grandpa?.

She needs Rafa back playing .

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

Yep.

The curious thing is I'd have thought Clarky looked like she agreed a while ago, going by her posts (about how Djokovic would and should have lost in three sets if not for the rain, etc.). And now she's saying Novak lost only because of his grandpa?.

She needs Rafa back playing .

I do think he would have lost in straights if not for the rain,but I also believe his level wasn't very high to begin with because of his grandpa's death. If people can say they believe Cvac played his best tennis in that match then I don't know what to tell them. If Cvac would have played like he did last year Nadal would never would have beaten him,rain or no rain.

[Mustard]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

I do think he would have lost in straights if not for the rain,but I also believe his level wasn't very high to begin with because of his grandpa's death. If people can say they believe Cvac played his best tennis in that match then I don't know what to tell them. If Cvac would have played like he did last year Nadal would never would have beaten him,rain or no rain.

You do realise that Djokovic's grandad died in April during Monte Carlo, yes, and not during the French Open?

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

I do think he would have lost in straights if not for the rain,but I also believe his level wasn't very high to begin with because of his grandpa's death. If people can say they believe Cvac played his best tennis in that match then I don't know what to tell them. If Cvac would have played like he did last year Nadal would never would have beaten him,rain or no rain.

Djokovic's level has been lower all year (even since late last year), compared to 2011, not just since his grandpa died.

And Rafa's level, on clay certainly, was clearly higher this year. You surely think that must have had something to do with the way their matches went this year?.

[sureshs]

Rafa is undefeated when he wins

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

Djokovic's level has been lower all year (even since late last year), compared to 2011, not just since his grandpa died.

And Rafa's level, on clay certainly, was clearly higher this year. You surely think that must have had something to do with the way their matches went this year?.

I'm not so sure. I think if Cvac plays his best then there's nothing Nadal can do about it no matter how he's playing. If the Cvac from 2011 would have showed up this year in any of those matches Nadal would have lost them all no matter what.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

I'm not so sure. I think if Cvac plays his best then there's nothing Nadal can do about it no matter how he's playing. If the Cvac from 2011 would have showed up this year in any of those matches Nadal would have lost them all no matter what.

I really don't think so... why would you think that really?. Think third set n the USO last year. And that was hard court.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

I really don't think so... why would you think that really?. Think third set n the USO last year. And that was hard court.

Because Nadal has always struggled against Cvac. Even before Cvac found his miracle cure. Last year spoke volumes to me about that match-up. The only way Nadal can beat him is if Cvac plays poorly,otherwise,it's not possible.

[Mustard]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Because Nadal has always struggled against Cvac.

I agree the matchup is difficult, but Nadal found ways to win any big match against Djokovic before 2011. All of Djokovic's wins over Nadal before 2011, all 7 of them, were 2 straight sets on hardcourts.

[Tennis_Hands]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

The other problem I see with you is that you read like a broken record even when the stuff you throw around isn't working. OK, enough for today, no? I'll let you in peace to hone your trolling skills a bit.

Ahahahahahaaa. The sweet irony.

[NadalAgassi]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Here is my reply. Was Djokovic's grandpa passing away the only reason that he lost to Nadal, when he was owning him on every surface? Once his grandpa died, it effected Djokovic and Nadal took advantage. What this shows to me is that until barring such a tragic loss, far greater than a divorce, a mentally stable Novak ruled the bull, at least Nadal's parents are healthy and alive, and still very much a part of his life. While Djokovic's grandfather, who looked after him when he was a boy during war, left him forever....

Such a pathetic thread, when you think about it.

(Sorry to the genuine Nadal fans, but sometimes you give a troll what he wants).

ROTFL Djokovic's grandfather was probably about 80. People are expected to die at that age. Those who are stunned by it need to get out of their fantasy World with pink unicorns and fluffy clouds. Djokovic isnt even a top 40 clay courter all time at this point. His success against the undisputed clay court GOAT Nadal on clay in 2011 was the aberration, not the other way around.

[ditli04]

can't believe it!

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Because Nadal has always struggled against Cvac. Even before Cvac found his miracle cure. Last year spoke volumes to me about that match-up. The only way Nadal can beat him is if Cvac plays poorly,otherwise,it's not possible.

If you consider leading the h2h by I don't know how much before last year struggling... He has always been a tough opponent for him. But so has Nadal been for Djokovic. It was him you could say the one who's always struggled more, you could say. It was him who couldn't beat Rafa on Rafa's best surface, while Nadal could beat Novak on his. It was him who couldn't win the really big matches. Even last year, with the way he was playing and the way Nadal was playing on clay, and while Djokovic won the clay matches on straights, they were close matches with not more than one break a set, I believe.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

If you consider leading the h2h by I don't know how much before last year struggling... He has always been a tough opponent for him. But so has Nadal been for Djokovic. It was him you could say the one who's always struggled more, you could say. It was him who couldn't beat Rafa on Rafa's best surface, while Nadal could beat Novak on his. It was him who couldn't win the really big matches. Even last year, with the way he was playing and the way Nadal was playing on clay, and while Djokovic won the clay matches on straights, they were close matches with not more than one break a set, I believe.

Again,I'm not sure I agree. Djesus was unable to hang with Nadal physically until last year,and that is what cost him matches against Nadal. There is a match-up issue as well as Cvac's abilities being better than Nadal's are as well.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Again,I'm not sure I agree. Djesus was unable to hang with Nadal physically until last year,and that is what cost him matches against Nadal. There is a match-up issue as well as Cvac's abilities being better than Nadal's are as well.

That wasn't all there was to it. Not all the matches Rafa won were long gruelling ones.