Barring the seperation of his parents, is it impossible for Nadal to lose at RG?

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

That wasn't all there was to it. Not all the matches Rafa won were long gruelling ones.

Well,it played a big part in it. Cvac is better at just about everything compared to Nadal,and lost a lot of matches to him he never should have only because he was tired. I know you won't agree with me,so why do you think Cvac lost so many matches to Nadal he should have won?

[DropShotArtist]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

It's not impossible but it hasn't happened yet. I guess it must be tougher to beat Nadal at RG than Fed at either Wimbledon or WTF.

Not really, considering the much weaker competition on clay compared to grass or HC.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by DropShotArtist

Not really, considering the much weaker competition on clay compared to grass or HC.

Weaker competition on clay compared to grass? No way.

[DropShotArtist]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Weaker competition on clay compared to grass? No way.

Yes way. A lot more player get up for Wimbledon. In the old days people often skipped FO. They may not skip it as much anymore, but they sure as heck don't put as much effort into it. After all, what a player rather win, Wimby or FO?

[Hitman]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

ROTFL Djokovic's grandfather was probably about 80. People are expected to die at that age. Those who are stunned by it need to get out of their fantasy World with pink unicorns and fluffy clouds. Djokovic isnt even a top 40 clay courter all time at this point. His success against the undisputed clay court GOAT Nadal on clay in 2011 was the aberration, not the other way around.

Who are you to say that his grandfather's death didn't effect him. What kind of callous BS is this? My response was to a troll, who can talk about a divorce, but if I give the troll his own medicine, you're jumping up and down because it goes against Nadal...How do you know how much emotionally attached he was to his grandfather? I felt his pain when he looked up to the heavens after his match against Dolgopolov in MC, and he couldn't sign that camera. So there is nothing to ROTFL about.

Undisputed clay GOAT? Yeah, right! Sorry, but you can't compare eras, and since we will never know how he would have done in Borg, or anyone else's era, he certainly aint undisputed. Hypothetical, fantasy spectulation is not fact, and it certainly does not make him undisputed. And who did he beat anyway? Djokovic, who isn't even top 40 according to you, and Federer who you don't think is even in top 10 right? He beats a bunch of chumps and he is undisputed...give me a break!

And while I don't have to mention it, I lost my Grandfather this summer, and he was 82, and it tore me apart, because his memories can flooding back for weeks. So, there is nothing to ROTFL about.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Well,it played a big part in it. Cvac is better at just about everything compared to Nadal,and lost a lot of matches to him he never should have only because he was tired. I know you won't agree with me,so why do you think Cvac lost so many matches to Nadal he should have won?

Weaker mentally. Also, his forehand isn't as good as Nadal's. Nor his serve, I'd say.

Originally Posted by DropShotArtist

Yes way. A lot more player get up for Wimbledon. In the old days people often skipped FO. They may not skip it as much anymore, but they sure as heck don't put as much effort into it. After all, what a player rather win, Wimby or FO?

Depends on the player.

[DropShotArtist]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

Weaker mentally. Also, his forehand isn't as good as Nadal's. Nor his serve, I'd say.



Depends on the player.

I think most players usually say Wimbledon is the highest slam, including Nadal.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by DropShotArtist

Yes way. A lot more player get up for Wimbledon. In the old days people often skipped FO. They may not skip it as much anymore, but they sure as heck don't put as much effort into it. After all, what a player rather win, Wimby or FO?

Please name one current player other than Fed who is a great grasscourt player? There are far fewer great grasscourt players than there are great claycourters.

And also name me one player in recent history that skipped RG because they felt it was insignificant? And Andy "clay mug" Roddick does not count.


Also,didn't a lot of clay court player's used to skip Wimby in the past? Skipping a tournament because you suck on that particular surface doesn't make it less prestigious.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

Weaker mentally. Also, his forehand isn't as good as Nadal's. Nor his serve, I'd say.



Depends on the player.

You know I am not going to agree with that. Lol. Djesus is better at everything compared to Nadal. He just couldn't hang physically and it cost him.

[Ms Nadal]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

You know I am not going to agree with that. Lol. Djesus is better at everything compared to Nadal. He just couldn't hang physically and it cost him.

Does Rafa do anything well in your eyes? And I was called a Rafa hater. You say worse things than me.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Ms Nadal

Does Rafa do anything well in your eyes? And I was called a Rafa hater. You say worse things than me.

Maybe make music videos? Or how about posing in his underwear? Maybe playing PokerStars? We all know he's got a lot of free time on his hands since he doesn't play tennis anymore.



I am called a Nadal hater,too. The thing is I don't care,so they can say whatever they like.

[Ms Nadal]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Maybe make music videos? Or how about posing in his underwear? Maybe playing PokerStars? We all know he's got a lot of free time on his hands since he doesn't play tennis anymore.



I am called a Nadal hater,too. The thing is I don't care,so they can say whatever they like.

I hate all those off court activities that Rafa does nowadays. Totally sickening! Rafa has won 7th RG now. He has done it all. He may never go back to RG. I think that he doesn't want to play anymore personally. Rafa is tired of tennis so RG titles may be done for him.

[Crisstti]

Get over yourselves. Sickening would be if he'd be going to bullfights, certainly not making a frigging video clip

I really don't understand what is it that bothers Nadal fans about that kind of thing (assuming for a moment that Ms. Nadal is a fan of Rafa).

Originally Posted by DropShotArtist

I think most players usually say Wimbledon is the highest slam, including Nadal.

Rafa feels that way because of Toni's influence, and because he likes a challenge. Maybe Mustard knows exactly how many players express a preference one way or another. I can say my other favourite player, Ríos, always said RG was his favourite slam and he couldn't have cared less about Wimbledon...

Originally Posted by Clarky21

You know I am not going to agree with that. Lol. Djesus is better at everything compared to Nadal. He just couldn't hang physically and it cost him.

No, he's not. Why do you think Rafa has a much better record against the other top players too?.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

Get over yourselves. Sickening would be if he'd be going to bullfights, certainly not making a frigging video clip

I really don't understand what is it that bothers Nadal fans about that kind of thing (assuming for a moment that Ms. Nadal is a fan of Rafa).



Rafa feels that way because of Toni's influence, and because he likes a challenge. Maybe Mustard knows exactly how many players express a preference one way or another. I can say my other favourite player, Ríos, always said RG was his favourite slam and he couldn't have cared less about Wimbledon...



No, he's not. Why do you think Rafa has a much better record against the other top players too?.

So are you saying that Nadal is more talented than Fed,Cvac,and Murray? I really hope not.

[ninman]

Barring someone putting a gun to my head and pulling the trigger, is it impossible for me to die?

That question is just as stupid as the one you asked. We're human beings, fallible and flawed.

Nadal has been incredibly consistent at Roland Garros, but that doesn't mean he can't lose.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

So are you saying that Nadal is more talented than Fed,Cvac,and Murray? I really hope not.

You haven't answered my question...

Talent is a pretty impossible thing to define anyway. I sure think he's more or less as good as they are.

[NadalAgassi]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Undisputed clay GOAT? Yeah, right!

He holds every record that exists on clay, practically every tennis fan and every single tennis expert now calls him the clay GOAT, so yes he is the undisputed clay GOAT. If Federer is the undisputed GOAT like his worshippers such as yourself refer to him, then Nadal sure is heck is the undisputed clay GOAT as he is 5 times or more the clay GOAT than Federer is the overall one. Continue living in your dream World though.

And while I don't have to mention it, I lost my Grandfather this summer, and he was 82, and it tore me apart, because his memories can flooding back for weeks. So, there is nothing to ROTFL about.

Then you are one of those who lives in a fluffy World with pink clouds like you apparently think Djokovic does (which is your own delusion as I am sure he is far stronger than you are, and anyway you are just BSing as always and trying to make excuses for your beloved idol). My grandparents are both in their 80s, and when they die it will be sad, but it will also be expected by all in the family, since that is what people 80 are over do at any moment, they die, and likely go to a better place. If you reach 80 you have already lived as long as expected, and anything past that is a bonus. It is not something that affects a normal persons daily life for months the way an unexpected death in the family at a premature time does.

Monte Carlo was immediately at the time of the passing so naturally he would be more emotional then, but to somehow translate that to anything more is ridiculous and desperation on your part.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

You haven't answered my question...

Talent is a pretty impossible thing to define anyway. I sure think he's more or less as good as they are.

Just because he has a winning record(for now)against them,doesn't mean much,imo. One thing is does say is that they have met many times on clay,which usually favors Nadal. I still think Cvac is more talented as is Fed,and possibly Andy if he could get his head screwed on straight.

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by Towser83

I thought he lost cos of his knees, but it was the seperation of his parents? Wow nadal some kind of a man child who can't play cos his parents split up when he was in his 20s?
Obviously Djokovic only lost MC, Rome and RG cos his grandfather died.

Fed lost everything in 2008 cos his pet hamster was sick.

Murray lost 4 slam finals because he had a bad hair day.

It's clear now.

Not because the better player on that day beat him? Seems a bit odd.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Just because he has a winning record(for now)against them,doesn't mean much,imo. One thing is does say is that they have met many times on clay,which usually favors Nadal. I still think Cvac is more talented as is Fed,and possibly Andy if he could get his head screwed on straight.

That in fact does say a lot. He has also won many important matches against them on their best surface. That they're not as good on it as Rafa is on clay only speaks on favour of Rafa here.

Also, more talented doesn't have to mean better.