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Old 11-10-2012, 03:06 AM   #41
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Electric "cars" are for tree-hugging wussy hipsters. Real men drive V8s.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:45 AM   #42
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Electric "cars" are for tree-hugging wussy hipsters. Real men drive V8s.
If you feel that way, ok.

I think most people can accept new things without feeling challenged.

Unless they are scared.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:59 AM   #43
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With the sun so low in the sky in Denmark/Sweden this time of year, I'm surprised they can generate the kind of power needed.
I think here its either solar powered or made from "green" electricity. An electric company in the city I live in runs a fleet of these as rentals with charging stations popping up here and there. They have a solar charging station close to my school, and I think it's powered by normal electricity at this time of year to supplement the lack of sufficient sunlight.

Personally, I think electric cars are stupid. Hydrogen is the way to go as it's abundant and infinitely renewable. That battery replacement thing seems proprietary and would cost far too much to be practical in any way.
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:42 AM   #44
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the ability of a man is sign of 'realness',

rather than owning stuff.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:35 PM   #45
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Damned hippie, communist, Muslim, tree huggers. Volt driver was probably racing to pick up more Illegal Mexicans so that they can steal more of our jobs.

You tell a real American by the domestic trucks they drive. Why drive a truck? You have to be prepare to bring guns and ammo to the border to defend America.

They stole the election, time to take our country back.

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Damned hippie, communist, Muslim, tree huggers. Volt driver was probably racing to pick up more Illegal Mexicans so that they can steal more of our jobs.

You tell a real American by the domestic trucks they drive. Why drive a truck? You have to be prepare to bring guns and ammo to the border to defend America.

They stole the election, time to take our country back.

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Old 11-13-2012, 04:43 AM   #47
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Hydrogen is kinda explosive, isnt it?
Car bombs at large? or how does it become an attractive and safe idea for cars to use as fuel as opposed to clean electricity?
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:50 AM   #48
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Hydrogen is kinda explosive, isnt it?
Car bombs at large? or how does it become an attractive and safe idea for cars to use as fuel as opposed to clean electricity?
Yes, it is explosive but, so is gasoline. I figure if terrorist were going to be making car bombs at large they would already be doing that.

Hydrogen is combustible in air only within a narrow range. If there were a leak it would dissipate very quickly into the atmosphere without issue.

Given that a hydrogen cars use electric not combustion engines, unless people were lighting matches and poking holes in tanks I don't think explosions are too much of an issue.

However, the pitfalls for both cars are more or less the same. In the end they both rely on electricity that is most likely produced from burning fossil fuels. Whether it be electrolysis or plugging in the battery.

Although, I saw you posted earlier that there is a car that takes a minute to recharge but, never posted the name of the car. Though you did post a link to the leaf vs volt both of which certainly take more than a couple minutes to charge.
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Damned hippie, communist, Muslim, tree huggers. Volt driver was probably racing to pick up more Illegal Mexicans so that they can steal more of our jobs.

You tell a real American by the domestic trucks they drive. Why drive a truck? You have to be prepare to bring guns and ammo to the border to defend America.

They stole the election, time to take our country back.

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Yes, it is explosive but, so is gasoline. I figure if terrorist were going to be making car bombs at large they would already be doing that.

Hydrogen is combustible in air only within a narrow range. If there were a leak it would dissipate very quickly into the atmosphere without issue.

Given that a hydrogen cars use electric not combustion engines, unless people were lighting matches and poking holes in tanks I don't think explosions are too much of an issue.

However, the pitfalls for both cars are more or less the same. In the end they both rely on electricity that is most likely produced from burning fossil fuels. Whether it be electrolysis or plugging in the battery.

Although, I saw you posted earlier that there is a car that takes a minute to recharge but, never posted the name of the car. Though you did post a link to the leaf vs volt both of which certainly take more than a couple minutes to charge.

Ok, thanks for your thoughts and views ..
The car that has interchangable batteries as its forte is what you are thinking of i believe.
Thats the key strength of the Renault ZE cars,they work with Nissan. see
www.betterplace.com

they have a very extensive website incl showing the way the cars are in use + change of battery .
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:01 AM   #51
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There are huge battery improvements coming in the next ten years that will accelerate electric car adoption and help out with the strains on the energy grid. Even if only some of these pan out, the fact that all this research is occurring bodes well for the electric vehicle.

http://green.autoblog.com/2012/10/11...er-algorithms/

http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/...attery500.html

http://green.autoblog.com/2012/02/27...ter-batteries/

http://green.autoblog.com/2012/05/31...ium-ion-batte/

Hydrogen Fuel Cell range-extended electric would be awesome!
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:54 AM   #52
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Well it isn't a bad deal considering it costs Government Motors more to produce it than they sell it for.
Toyota, until very recently, lost money on each hybrid (let alone all electric vehicle) it sells without government incentives...
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