Federer wants faster surfaces

[Tennis_Hands]

Originally Posted by Mustard

Relatively: Talking about physicality on clay in comparison with hardcourts, or vice versa
Absolutely: Talking about physicality in absolute terms

Exactly!

You said, that clay court tennis requires harder work! That is relative to hardcourt tennis I presume.

So, what I asked is, how exactly happens this harder work without added stress on the joints?

[TMF]

Originally Posted by cluckcluck

One of the comments, "It sounda like sour grapes to me about Federer about the courts, he just can,t take a loss, he has to suggest courts should be changed to suit him and his way of playing. too bad. poor sport."

I wonder if the commenter said the same thing when Nadal whines about everything being too fast?

Nadal is in no position to whine because the slow courts suit his game perfectly. And that's including grass.

[Ms Nadal]

Originally Posted by TMF

Nadal is in no position to whine because the slow courts suit his game perfectly. And that's including grass.

I like Rafa but he moans too much. The ATP men must be glad Rafa isn't around.

[nikdom]

First notice the leading question.

Q. When you were winning your original Masters Cups and these kinds of titles, we were talking about being attacking tennis being to the fore. Now we’re talking about defensive tennis as the norm. Would you like to see or could you see a day when we talk more about attacking tennis than defensive tennis?
ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, it’s easy fix. Just make quicker courts, then it’s hard to defend. Attacking style is more important. It’s only on this type of slow courts that you can defend the way we are all doing right now.
I think it’s exciting, but no doubt about it, it’s tough. What you don’t want is that you hit 15 great shots and at the end, it ends up in an error.
So I think sometimes quicker courts do help the cause. I think it would help from time to time to move to something a bit faster. That would help to learn, as well, for many different players, different playing styles, to realize that coming to the net is a good thing, it’s not a bad thing.
Then again, the tour has to decide, the tournament directors have a big say in it.
I’m happy with this court. It’s faster. It’s fine, too. I’ve played on all different speeds. But I think some variety would be nice, some really slow stuff and then some really fast stuff, instead of trying to make everything sort of the same. You sort of protect the top guys really by doing that because you have the best possible chance to have them in the semis at this point, I think.
But should that be the goal? I’m not sure.

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2012-11-13/11008.php

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by sunof tennis

No, but Nadal should. They have lots of clay court in Florida

Nadal is an all-court all-surface player who is about to enter his prime.

Originally Posted by VPhuc tennis fan

Nah, but it seems to be a suggestion that SoBad can hardly do for himself. Envy?

No, I have not had a chance to pile up a bunch of cheap slams in a weak era, evade taxes, and stash all the loot in criminal tax havens in Geneva and Dubai, if that's what you're asking.

[tlm]

Waw waw poor fed the crybaby poor loser, he chokes the lead away to joker and now the courts are to slow.

[NadalDramaQueen]

Originally Posted by SoBad

Nadal is an all-court all-surface player who is about to enter his prime.

The 5.0's are getting tired of beating up on Johnny Mac and are looking forward to the challenge.

Originally Posted by SoBad

No, I have not had a chance to pile up a bunch of cheap slams in a weak era, evade taxes, and stash all the loot in criminal tax havens in Geneva and Dubai, if that's what you're asking.

Your time will come.

[Sabratha]

With faster courts; it's advantage Federer once again. Federer at #1 while being age 35.

[timnz]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

With faster courts; it's advantage Federer once again. Federer at #1 while being age 35.

As opposed to the current situation where he is massively disadvantaged - the courts being so slow. Basically the first half of the year is slow court tennis and the second half of the year is medium paced tennis. Fast court tennis doesn't exist anymore. All Federer is asking for is so balance to the season, rather than the huge weighting towards slow court tennis that exists at the moment.

[smoledman]

Originally Posted by timnz

As opposed to the current situation where he is massively disadvantaged - the courts being so slow. Basically the first half of the year is slow court tennis and the second half of the year is medium paced tennis. Fast court tennis doesn't exist anymore. All Federer is asking for is so balance to the season, rather than the huge weighting towards slow court tennis that exists at the moment.

Fans don't want to watch serve-bot tennis. I know Fed would prefer that and maybe a few baseline points just to relieve the boredom but that's not going to fly anymore.

[Gorecki]

Originally Posted by Mustard

Why do people keep going on about surface speed yet seem in ignorance of the vital importance that the racquet and string technology's plays in the way the modern game works? The 1990s conditions are never coming back, unless you make 1990s racquet and string technology compulsory for all players.

you mean Head Radicals and Prestiges ? Wilson Pro staffs? Firts generation Babolats? the real racquets under the paintjobs in most modern players????

you know. for someone so knowledgeable, you sure make some flawed points!!!!

[bbfl]

Originally Posted by tlm

Waw waw poor fed the crybaby poor loser, he chokes the lead away to joker and now the courts are to slow.

Yeah poor Fed has won only 17 GS. Djokovich is too defensive who is relying on opponents errors, did you see the winners on the final? Roger made 10-15 more winners than Djoko. That's why Murray's and Djoko's style is too boring to watch. Tennis only will lose if they keep playing like this.

[Feather]

Originally Posted by nikdom

First notice the leading question.

Q. When you were winning your original Masters Cups and these kinds of titles, we were talking about being attacking tennis being to the fore. Now we’re talking about defensive tennis as the norm. Would you like to see or could you see a day when we talk more about attacking tennis than defensive tennis?
ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, it’s easy fix. Just make quicker courts, then it’s hard to defend. Attacking style is more important. It’s only on this type of slow courts that you can defend the way we are all doing right now.
I think it’s exciting, but no doubt about it, it’s tough. What you don’t want is that you hit 15 great shots and at the end, it ends up in an error.
So I think sometimes quicker courts do help the cause. I think it would help from time to time to move to something a bit faster. That would help to learn, as well, for many different players, different playing styles, to realize that coming to the net is a good thing, it’s not a bad thing.
Then again, the tour has to decide, the tournament directors have a big say in it.
I’m happy with this court. It’s faster. It’s fine, too. I’ve played on all different speeds. But I think some variety would be nice, some really slow stuff and then some really fast stuff, instead of trying to make everything sort of the same. You sort of protect the top guys really by doing that because you have the best possible chance to have them in the semis at this point, I think.
But should that be the goal? I’m not sure.

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2012-11-13/11008.php

Nice post nikdom. Thanks a lot for posting it. It's the question that led to that answer from Roger Federer. Many posting in this thread would either ignore it or don't have the brains to get it

[Feather]

Roger Federer may be around for two or three years but the issue is beyond that.

No one is asking to make all the courts faster. But how could youaccept slowing down of almost all surfaces? Except for Cincinnati all the surfaces are slow.

Let it be this way

Australian Open - medium slow hard court, Rebound ace
RG - the 90s slow clay
Wimbledon - the 90s ultra fast grass, come on it's such an insult to see baseline Tennis on the hallowed surface of Wimbledon. Even if it's Karlovic v/s Isner final, I don't care but bring back old green grass.

US Open - fast hard courts like 90s

That way we have variety

[kalyan4fedever]

Originally Posted by Feather

Australian Open - medium slow hard court, Rebound ace
RG - the 90s slow clay
Wimbledon - the 90s ultra fast grass, come on it's such an insult to see baseline Tennis on the hallowed surface of Wimbledon. Even if it's Karlovic v/s Isner final, I don't care but bring back old green grass.

US Open - fast hard courts like 90s

That way we have variety

Not gonna happen, tournament directors simply don't care until the top players moan like Novak and rafa did at this year Blue clay madrid. They are not gonna change it only for the convenience of the players like fed. Blue clay is again going back to red as the surface was hyped to produce injuries or it is too slippery to play.

[Feather]

Originally Posted by kalyan4fedever

Not gonna happen, tournament directors simply don't care until the top players moan like Novak and rafa did at this year Blue clay madrid. They are not gonna change it only for the convenience of the players like fed. Blue clay is again going back to red as the surface was hyped to produce injuries or it is too slippery to play.

I didn't mean to change it for the convenience of Roger who is gonna be around for only two or threee years. But to keep variety in Tennis.

[zagor]

Originally Posted by Feather

Wimbledon - the 90s ultra fast grass, come on it's such an insult to see baseline Tennis on the hallowed surface of Wimbledon. Even if it's Karlovic v/s Isner final, I don't care but bring back old green grass.

Pigs would fly before that would happen, heck pigs would fly before they would both reach a 4th round in those conditions.

[Feather]

Originally Posted by zagor

Pigs would fly before that would happen, heck pigs would fly before they would both reach a 4th round in those conditions.

It was just a hyperbole Zagor. I really didn't literally mean it

[Tennis_Hands]

Originally Posted by Gorecki

you mean Head Radicals and Prestiges ? Wilson Pro staffs? Firts generation Babolats? the real racquets under the paintjobs in most modern players????

you know. for someone so knowledgeable, you sure make some flawed points!!!!

He uses his "knowledge" to be a massive Nusstard.

The sad reality.

[VPhuc tennis fan]

Originally Posted by SoBad

Nadal is an all-court all-surface player who is about to enter his prime.



No, I have not had a chance to pile up a bunch of cheap slams in a weak era, evade taxes, and stash all the loot in criminal tax havens in Geneva and Dubai, if that's what you're asking.

Wow, wow, wow! Did u drink whiskey getting out of bed this morning? The few posts I've seen from you suggests not only "morning" but all day long, sunrise to sunset (leather,wash, rinse, repeat to infinity).
Nadal...about to enter his primer?!!! WTF (nothing to do with the tournament that just ended)! Good to sleep through half of the year dreaming about your Rafa, huh?
"cheap slams, evade taxes, criminal tax havens, ..." What are u now? Accountant, IRS auditor? Lots of CHEAP accusations. Evidence (please no Bleacher Report, or National Inquirer, or Stars if you know what I mean).
Envy is one of the 7 deadliest sin, you know it right? Brad Pitt's early movie w/ Morgan Freeman. Watch it if you want to know what I mean. Good drinking now.