Barring the seperation of his parents, is it impossible for Nadal to lose at RG?

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

Yeah, while Soderling is in decline.

No, it was the 2010 Roland Garros final, and Soderling had defeated Federer already.

[Gorecki]

this forum need a clean up, but it must start from the top.... sadly mostlikely this very post will be censored but this whole thread will not!!!

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

Yeah, while Soderling is in decline.

In decline?, he was in his second RG final in a row, and had just beaten Fed.

Nadal was injured when he lost to him and to Rosol. Maybe ****s need to deal with that fact.

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

In decline?, he was in his second RG final in a row, and had just beaten Fed.

Nadal was injured when he lost to him and to Rosol. Maybe ****s need to deal with that fact.

Soderling only made the QFs of the 2011 Roland Garros, signalling a steller decline from his previous year of performance. Isn't that a decline?

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

Soderling only made the QFs of the 2011 Roland Garros, signalling a steller decline from his previous year of performance. Isn't that a decline?

No,he ran into Nadal and that's why he lost. Soderling couldn't even beat a Nadal who was playing some of the worst tennis he ever has on clay. That's his own fault.

[Feather]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

Federer lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon on 3 occasions. Grass never came as naturally to Federer as clay came to Nadal. Federer had to work on it, and evolve his game. Nadal, clay tennis is an inborn ability, even more than Sampras or Mac on grass.

Grasss never come as a natural surface to anyone. Players don't get enough exposure on grass during their young days for that to be a natural surface.

Europeans play more on clay and Americans more on hard courts. So clay come as natural surface more to europeans and vice versa for Americans

[Feather]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

In decline?, he was in his second RG final in a row, and had just beaten Fed.

Nadal was injured when he lost to him and to Rosol. Maybe ****s need to deal with that fact.

Did you watch the match between Rafa and Soderling? If you haven't watched then go watch it and say all these nonsense. I have seen the match, Rafa was running around like a rabbit and Soderling blew him off the court on clay. He wasn't injured against Rosol either.

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

Soderling only made the QFs of the 2011 Roland Garros, signalling a steller decline from his previous year of performance. Isn't that a decline?

So are you claiming 2010 never happened? 2010, Nadal vs Soderling Roland Garros final, and Nadal won 6-4 6-2 6-4. Soderling in decline beat Federer in the QF?

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

No,he ran into Nadal and that's why he lost. Soderling couldn't even beat a Nadal who was playing some of the worst tennis he ever has on clay. That's his own fault.

2011 was a good year for Nadal, come on Clarky.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Feather

Did you watch the match between Rafa and Soderling? If you haven't watched then go watch it and say all these nonsense. I have seen the match, Rafa was running around like a rabbit and Soderling blew him off the court on clay. He wasn't injured against Rosol either.

He was injured both times. You need to get help for your denial.


And I hardly call a close 4 set match with 2 tiebreaks blowing someone off the court. Exaggerate much? Nadal played a horrible match while Soderling played near his best and he still nearly had to go 5 sets. Also,other than the WTF that same year,Nadal has beaten Soderling each and everytime they have played since,includiing twice at RG. I think you folks need to admit it was a massive fluke in 2009 and move on.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

2011 was a good year for Nadal, come on Clarky.

2011 was a horrible year for Nadal. He played crap,and the only reason he made it so far in so many tournaments was because everyone else was playing like crap too.

[tudwell]

Will Nadal ever win as many Hamburg titles as Federer?

[tudwell]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

2011 was a horrible year for Nadal. He played crap,and the only reason he made it so far in so many tournaments was because everyone else was playing like crap too.

Yeah, the whole tour just sucks now

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by tudwell

Yeah, the whole tour just sucks now

Yep because Murray losing to the likes of Donald Young and Bogomolov Jr. is the norm,and so is Fed losing to Melzer,and losing from 2 sets up against Tsonga at Wimby. He then lost again from 2 sets up at the USO after having 2 match points. Glad to know that you really do think the whole tour sucks and isn't capable of beating GOATS like DY ,Melzer,and Bogomolov Jr. even when they are at their best. You certainly don't think much of these guys do you?

[Feather]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

He was injured both times. You need to get help for your denial.


And I hardly call a close 4 set match with 2 tiebreaks blowing someone off the court. Exaggerate much? Nadal played a horrible match while Soderling played near his best and he still nearly had to go 5 sets. Also,other than the WTF that same year,Nadal has beaten Soderling each and everytime they have played since,includiing twice at RG. I think you folks need to admit it was a massive fluke in 2009 and move on.

I never said it was not a fluke. Rafa losing to Soderling can happen only once in 100 and it's certainly a fluke. By blowing off the court, I didn't mean it was one sided, just meant that he was hitting powerful strokes. Just like Berdych blew Roger off the court at Wimbledon.

No, Rafa was not injured in his match against Soderling. He was running around without any trace of injury. I have seen the match. He wasnt injured against Rosol also

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Feather

I never said it was not a fluke. Rafa losing to Soderling can happen only once in 100 and it's certainly a fluke. By blowing off the court, I didn't mean it was one sided, just meant that he was hitting powerful strokes. Just like Berdych blew Roger off the court at Wimbledon.

No, Rafa was not injured in his match against Soderling. He was running around without any trace of injury. I have seen the match. He wasnt injured against Rosol also

You pretty much did with your "blown off the court" comment. Nadal has beaten Soderling comprehensively in every single match they've played after that except for at the WTF in 2009,where Nadal is a notorious mug anyway,and didn't win a single set that year. That fact alone should tell you Soderling needed the perfect storm of playing out of his skin mixed with an injured Nadal who was on his last legs in order to beat him at RG. Or do you believe Soderling can beat an in form healthy Nadal at RG? All signs point to the opposite.



If you think Nadal was moving well,and that his knees weren't injured at RG in 2009 and at Wimby this year then you must not watch him very much. And player's do not fake an injury only to be out months afterwards. You are still in denial.

[The-Champ]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

He was injured both times. You need to get help for your denial.


And I hardly call a close 4 set match with 2 tiebreaks blowing someone off the court. Exaggerate much? Nadal played a horrible match while Soderling played near his best and he still nearly had to go 5 sets. Also,other than the WTF that same year,Nadal has beaten Soderling each and everytime they have played since,includiing twice at RG. I think you folks need to admit it was a massive fluke in 2009 and move on.

When Nadal beat Söderling 60 61 in Rome, people here claimed that Nadal barely escaped that one

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by The-Champ

When Nadal beat Söderling 60 61 in Rome, people here claimed that Nadal barely escaped that one

You're kidding? I wasn't around here then to witness the hilarity of a comment like that.

[Crisstti]

Rafa was playing great in 2011. Wasn't he first in the race, for that matter?.

Originally Posted by Clarky21

You pretty much did with your "blown off the court" comment. Nadal has beaten Soderling comprehensively in every single match they've played after that except for at the WTF in 2009,where Nadal is a notorious mug anyway,and didn't win a single set that year. That fact alone should tell you Soderling needed the perfect storm of playing out of his skin mixed with an injured Nadal who was on his last legs in order to beat him at RG. Or do you believe Soderling can beat an in form healthy Nadal at RG? All signs point to the opposite.

If you think Nadal was moving well,and that his knees weren't injured at RG in 2009 and at Wimby this year then you must not watch him very much. And player's do not fake an injury only to be out months afterwards. You are still in denial.

Yep, ****s are in denial about that. He was out for months both times, but I'm sure they can find some ridiculous explanation for that, other than him being injured.
They like to think that Nadal just isn't good enough and that's why he's lost those matches, that players of his calibre don't lose except maybe once in their careers or something.

[vive le beau jeu !]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

He was imaginjured both times.

(allowed myself to correct the typo)