most of the time, strings importance is WAYYYYY overrated?

[stringertom]

I think we all have it wrong...Rozroz, is your nemesis named "Roy" and does he have his stick emblazoned "Wonderboy"? It sounds like this may be the case bcoz he is "puring" everything if he's not taking out a stringjob more than once per annum!

[Rabbit]

Originally Posted by Power Player

I am sorry but it is ONE YEAR of a guy not breaking strings in 2012 facing modern styles of play. I have never seen that before personally.

What you aren't considering is it doesn't matter how you hit the ball, it matters how he hits the ball. If he comes through the ball in a fairly level stroke, all the work in the world isn't going to hurt his strings unless you hit hard enough to hit through them. Play long enough and with enough people and you'll see it.

[netguy]

There are two things I put attention on a string, playability window and comfort....anything else (spin potential, power, control etc) is irrelevant to me since I can adjust my footwork & technique to generate the shot I want it to... when I can't, it is my mistake (not the strings) or my opponent is better than me. period.

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by Rabbit

What you aren't considering is it doesn't matter how you hit the ball, it matters how he hits the ball. If he comes through the ball in a fairly level stroke, all the work in the world isn't going to hurt his strings unless you hit hard enough to hit through them. Play long enough and with enough people and you'll see it.

I actually did consider that and you didnt read what I wrote. I have been playing a long time, but thanks.

[Rozroz]

Originally Posted by Power Player

I break my strings faster playing guys who serve hard and hit hard too. Which is why I am curious who this guy is playing to never mishit a heavy serve or groundie.

i don't think that at a 4.5 level you have to return a serve with too much string grinding. he just put his racquet and return a deep enough high ball for the opponent to have to shoot a good stroke from the baseline and then he's already ready to spot my shot. maybe you and many other hit a return with a lot of spin? i dunno.

[Rozroz]

Originally Posted by stringertom

I think we all have it wrong...Rozroz, is your nemesis named "Roy" and does he have his stick emblazoned "Wonderboy"? It sounds like this may be the case bcoz he is "puring" everything if he's not taking out a stringjob more than once per annum!

nope. he seems to me as a very honest fella that just have enough experience (25 years or so?), toughness, self confidence but not a lot of equipment knowledge. he told me he started playing from nothing, challenge the strongest players at his club until he won them all. but who knows?

[Rozroz]

Originally Posted by netguy

There are two things I put attention on a string, playability window and comfort....anything else (spin potential, power, control etc) is irrelevant to me since I can adjust my footwork & technique to generate the shot I want it to... when I can't, it is my mistake (not the strings) or my opponent is better than me. period.

but this is the whole reason for the thread, no?
if this guy playing way way over his string playability window and doesn't give a crap about it, how can he still play very stable?

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by Power Player

I am going to throw that exact setup into one of my blades just because I still believe it at worst to be a great "bailout" setup if your 2 main sticks break strings, and at best, your daily go to.

It is truly an average setup in every respect but the cost is nice.

[netguy]

Originally Posted by Rozroz

but this is the whole reason for the thread, no?
if this guy playing way way over his string playability window and doesn't give a crap about it, how can he still play very stable?

I guess there are some guys who are immune to string playability window dropping over time and have iron arms...I don't have those skills

[Muppet]

Maybe his yearly re-string came just before you played him. Check back with him in 10 months.

[Rozroz]

Originally Posted by Muppet

Maybe his yearly re-string came just before you played him. Check back with him in 10 months.

huh, that's one option
but i suspect it's not that of a big deal with him.

[bad_call]

think it's time for this old player to get the BITD fave string for grins and giggles - Leoina 66 or 77.

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by Rozroz

if we are talking about the FUN factor i totally agree.
so you're saying you could take you dead strings racquet and play the same?
well maybe that's indeed a factor of enough experience and game level.

Aside from dead poly, yeah, pretty much. The main differences I see between strings are the amount of control, amount of power and amount of feel. All of those, however, are relative. If the feedback I'm getting is not what I like, then I rate the string lower in certain areas. Two good examples for you: NRG2 vs. X-1 and Genesis Black Magic vs. WC Scorpion. In the first instance, I played with NRG2 for years and even into college a bit. Heck, when I signed up here, I was still playing full multi for the most part. I'd discovered NRG2 some time in high school and was told that X-1 was the same but with better longevity. Since I absolutely shred NRG2, that sounded like a dream come true. Err...not so much. It does not have the same crisp and responsive feel that I like. I just had more confidence with NRG2 because I knew what to expect when I hit the ball. NRG2 was all over the place, but if I had to play a match with it, I would not be able to blame the strings for losing. Similar story with Genesis Black Magic. This is a great poly, and if memory serves me right, one of drakulie's favorites. However, it is not for me. It is far too soft feeling. I don't like the plush feeling on impact, I like a crisp "bite" feeling. Only a certain few strings can give me that response, Scorpion being the best of the lot for me. Others are Pro Supex BAM, WC B5E, Tourna BHB7 and Signum Pro Tornado.

However, since Scorpion makes my shots come off the racquet exactly the way I want my shots to do so, it's the string for me. Other strings do things better or worse than Scorpion in areas that I like, but none are overall far above average in all categories. Would I be able to win a match with Black Magic? Absolutely! Would I be having the same amount of fun? No, because when I crack a winner with Scorpion, it just feels so much more satisfying due to the feedback than any other string I've used. That does not mean it's the best string (hardly), but it's the best for me.

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by Rabbit

What you aren't considering is it doesn't matter how you hit the ball, it matters how he hits the ball. If he comes through the ball in a fairly level stroke, all the work in the world isn't going to hurt his strings unless you hit hard enough to hit through them. Play long enough and with enough people and you'll see it.

True, but one year is a long time. I know of college players playing synthetics who don't break them for many many weeks, and I also know of club level players who break poly once a week. Hitting against heavy hitters at the 5.0 level for a year should at least notch a synthetic string to the point of breaking. I do, however, know personal exceptions to that rule.

[Rozroz]

so let's say this guy plays some cheap syn gut or nylon or whatever and manages to pull through with it for a crazy amount of time thanks to his particular abilities, which ever they are.

what you're saying is that if had used a poly string, after it would go dead things will HAVE to get ugly for him.. right?

[bad_call]

Roz - how many hours on the strings in a year? or how often does he play and for how long?

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by Rozroz

so let's say this guy plays some cheap syn gut or nylon or whatever and manages to pull through with it for a crazy amount of time thanks to his particular abilities, which ever they are.

what you're saying is that if had used a poly string, after it would go dead things will HAVE to get ugly for him.. right?

No I did not say that. What I said is that I'm ignoring poly because it's a very unique string material. I know of players using year old poly strings simply because they haven't broken. Year old ALU even, and they can still rally just fine. They just don't realize what they're missing.

[Rozroz]

Originally Posted by bad_call

Roz - how many hours on the strings in a year? or how often does he play and for how long?

this 'magic mike' plays quite a lot. around 6 hours a week.
ATM i don't think he exaggerates or talking too much BS.

[Rozroz]

Originally Posted by pvaudio

No I did not say that. What I said is that I'm ignoring poly because it's a very unique string material. I know of players using year old poly strings simply because they haven't broken. Year old ALU even, and they can still rally just fine. They just don't realize what they're missing.

ok, i get that.
so if you put feel and pleasure aside, there are NO RULES to a player's level (well up to 5.5 i would guess) VS strings, right ?
if that's true then it pretty much closes the case, doesn't it?

[ATP100]

Originally Posted by Rozroz

most of the time, strings importance is WAYYYYY overrated?

Easy Answer: Yes