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Old 11-15-2012, 09:46 PM   #21
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i think he should hang his racket, i dont like it when he looses early in grand slams........ i dont give a **** about ATP events

he has achieved everything that tennis has to offer except 2nd frnech open title
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Not everything. He could still win Rome and Monte-Carlo. And Olympics of course.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:25 PM   #23
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Also a very good point, he is very committed, i think he wont lose Wimbledon unless for an injury that's his court nobody will take that from him. But i do believe he will pick and choose where he wants to put in 100%

It's HIS court?? Nadal, Tsonga, Berdych and Murray all beat him on the Wimbledon court.
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I can see Federer up two sets and three match points at the OZ Open against Djokovic in the final, and then failing to convert on any of them and getting crushed from there on out. That sounds like vintage Fed...
Fed would be lucky to push Djoko to a 4th set at AO. He lost to him in straights in 2008 and in 2011.
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Federer is a very good HC player.

How is he going to beat Djokovic and Murray? Murray is definitely beatable. As is Djokovic, if Federer has a good day.



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In a best of 3, sure. In a best of 5, anywhere else than grass, that's very questionable.
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In a best of 3, sure. In a best of 5, anywhere else than grass, that's very questionable.
Federer didn't have to beat Nadal to win the FO. He may not have to beat Djokovic either if he's gonna have to win a Hardcourt Slam. Not saying he will, but it's definitely possible. And it's not like Federer didn't have matchpoints against Djokovic at US Open 2011 & 2010.
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He is done actually i can start to see fed getting out of top 10 and fading thereafter and retired after 2013 us open. I would be surprised if he wins any masters 1000 or 500 for that matter in '13 (highly unlikely) and upcoming AO dont even start with that he will be rosoled.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:55 PM   #28
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He is done actually i can start to see fed getting out of top 10 and fading thereafter and retired after 2013 us open. I would be surprised if he wins any masters 1000 or 500 for that matter in '13 (highly unlikely) and upcoming AO dont even start with that he will be rosoled.
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Federer didn't have to beat Nadal to win the FO. He may not have to beat Djokovic either if he's gonna have to win a Hardcourt Slam. Not saying he will, but it's definitely possible. And it's not like Federer didn't have matchpoints against Djokovic at US Open 2011 & 2010.
But Fed is getting older and I definitely think he will have to beat Djoko, Murray, Berd, Nadal in slams next year. He was very lucky in 2009 at RG. He's not gonna have that luck often especially now that Djoko and maybe Murray have become more consistent.
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He is done actually i can start to see fed getting out of top 10 and fading thereafter and retired after 2013 us open. I would be surprised if he wins any masters 1000 or 500 for that matter in '13 (highly unlikely) and upcoming AO dont even start with that he will be rosoled.
Which non-top 10 player is going to beat Fed next year? To drop out of the top 10 you have to start losing against guys like Simon, Dolgopolov, Monaco etc. Highly unlikely.

I think Fed will play 2 more years.
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But Fed is getting older and I definitely think he will have to beat Djoko, Murray, Berd, Nadal in slams next year. He was very lucky in 2009 at RG. He's not gonna have that luck often especially now that Djoko and maybe Murray have become more consistent.
Berdych is a real threat to Federer, yes, but let's not put him in the same category of peril as Djokovic, Nadal and Murray yet. And he may rarely be on collision course with Federer anyway. Even if he is, he may lose before he reaches the QF.

And Federer wasn't "lucky" in 2009. It was bound to happen sooner or later and Federer didn't miss. He earned that title through sheer consistency and, honestly, even you know it'd have been criminal to have a Claycourter as good as Federer never win the French Open. Just accept it.

And finally, Djokovic is a great player, definitely one of the modern greats and could end up being considered one of the GOATs by the time he's done, but he's no longer 23. Players generally start to decline once they hit 26. There's no saying if Djokovic can keep playing as well as he has the past 2 years. He's been incredibly consistent, yes, but it might be too much to expect him to make every hardcourt Slam F/SF for the next 2 years (which is probably how long Federer will be a Slam-contender). If Djokovic slips once, Federer could take it. Murray is still not a staple in Grand Slam finals and Hards always troubled Nadal.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:06 PM   #32
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I think he can keep up for another year. But playing many tournaments got him into this form, whereas playing many tournaments in the end also got him back out of form a little bit. A lot also depends on how many fast surfaces there are around. Without the roof, basically all four Slams were a bit too slow for him. Roger needs a bit of pace to work with to be able to beat the top guys.

Anyway, I think next year will be fine. Maybe even win a Slam. After that it'll get tougher and tougher. I think with his serve and forehand on a good day, as well as improved volleying skills, he'll still be a threat, but not as much as he is now. I see an Agassi like career if he wants to play like that. Some early exits, but also 1 or two Slam semis/finals or even a win very late in his career. The guy is so extremely talented. He'll become streakier and streakier, but when he gets redhot there will always be few players that can keep up.

I'll be optimistic: He'll win a Slam in 2013, make 1 slam final in 2014. And then in 2015 and 16 he'll win a final Slam to finish at 19, as well as another olympic appearance (and hopefully a medal in 1 of three disciplines) in Rio
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Which non-top 10 player is going to beat Fed next year? To drop out of the top 10 you have to start losing against guys like Simon, Dolgopolov, Monaco etc. Highly unlikely.

I think Fed will play 2 more years.
Yeah but in 2014 it will be more tough for him and the competition is getting better and better and the courts getting slower and slower , we did see his frustration when he lost to Nole in WTF this year inspite of him being attacking for most part. So i think that frustration will get the worst of him going further. 2012 was a good year for him he won a slam and 3 or 4 masters 1000, but dont expect him to repeat the same in '13 , it would be pretty darn tough.
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I think he can keep up for another year. But playing many tournaments got him into this form, whereas playing many tournaments in the end also got him back out of form a little bit. A lot also depends on how many fast surfaces there are around. Without the roof, basically all four Slams were a bit too slow for him. Roger needs a bit of pace to work with to be able to beat the top guys.

Anyway, I think next year will be fine. Maybe even win a Slam. After that it'll get tougher and tougher. I think with his serve and forehand on a good day, as well as improved volleying skills, he'll still be a threat, but not as much as he is now. I see an Agassi like career if he wants to play like that. Some early exits, but also 1 or two Slam semis/finals or even a win very late in his career. The guy is so extremely talented. He'll become streakier and streakier, but when he gets redhot there will always be few players that can keep up.

I'll be optimistic: He'll win a Slam in 2013, make 1 slam final in 2014. And then in 2015 and 16 he'll win a final Slam to finish at 19, as well as another olympic appearance (and hopefully a medal in 1 of three disciplines) in Rio
I think you're being too optimistic. I like that
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Yeah but in 2014 it will be more tough for him and the competition is getting better and better and the courts getting slower and slower , we did see his frustration when he lost to Nole in WTF this year inspite of him being attacking for most part. So i think that frustration will get the worst of him going further. 2012 was a good year for him he won a slam and 3 or 4 masters 1000, but dont expect him to repeat the same in '13 , it would be pretty darn tough.
Federer can easily make Quarterfinals of every tournament he enters (except for the odd one here and there) so that alone will ensure a spot in the top 8. You're trolling.
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I think you're being too optimistic. I like that
I am optimistic. esp. in the slam predicition. I think he'll become streakier and his fans will have to swallow some bad tournaments in the coming years. But he won't lose his flashes of brilliance, plus a very reliable service game.

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He is done actually i can start to see fed getting out of top 10 and fading thereafter and retired after 2013 us open. I would be surprised if he wins any masters 1000 or 500 for that matter in '13 (highly unlikely) and upcoming AO dont even start with that he will be rosoled.
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Roger Federer is NOT gonna slip out of top ten in either 2013 or 2014. I am dead sure about that. Even if he plays only majors he will easily get around 2500 points and that would bring him to top ten or close to top ten. I don't see him skipping all the masters 1000 and WTF entire year
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But Fed is getting older and I definitely think he will have to beat Djoko, Murray, Berd, Nadal in slams next year. He was very lucky in 2009 at RG. He's not gonna have that luck often especially now that Djoko and maybe Murray have become more consistent.
I do admit that he was lucky in RG 2009 that Rafa lost early. Still he won the remaining matches.

Berdych is not gonna beat Roger on a constant basis. I don't think Berdych is gonna blast Roger off the court in either RG or AO. I don't intend to say Roger will never lose to Berdych there but chances are less. He is a threat in Wimbledon and US Open but he is nowehere a threat as the other top three
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I think he can keep up for another year. But playing many tournaments got him into this form, whereas playing many tournaments in the end also got him back out of form a little bit. A lot also depends on how many fast surfaces there are around. Without the roof, basically all four Slams were a bit too slow for him. Roger needs a bit of pace to work with to be able to beat the top guys.

Anyway, I think next year will be fine. Maybe even win a Slam. After that it'll get tougher and tougher. I think with his serve and forehand on a good day, as well as improved volleying skills, he'll still be a threat, but not as much as he is now. I see an Agassi like career if he wants to play like that. Some early exits, but also 1 or two Slam semis/finals or even a win very late in his career. The guy is so extremely talented. He'll become streakier and streakier, but when he gets redhot there will always be few players that can keep up.

I'll be optimistic: He'll win a Slam in 2013, make 1 slam final in 2014. And then in 2015 and 16 he'll win a final Slam to finish at 19, as well as another olympic appearance (and hopefully a medal in 1 of three disciplines) in Rio
Highly optimistic! I don't think Roger would be playing from 2015 onwards and even if he plays I doubt he will win any slam from 2015 onwards. I would be only happy to be proved wrong
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I am optimistic. esp. in the slam predicition. I think he'll become streakier and his fans will have to swallow some bad tournaments in the coming years. But he won't use his flashes of brilliance, plus a very reliable service game.
Yeah, true. I wonder when his first pre-quarters loss at a Slam (in 10 years?) will be. Can't be too far away, surely. Maybe an year.
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