Heal injuries in half the time.

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by kiteboard

I ripped my hamstring in a tournament, on icy steps, over the week end. I've since healed it. No more pain anyway. If you've ever ripped a ham, it can last for years untreated. It's four days of treatment. I lost the match 7-6 6-4, but that was due to the rip. I'm not special. Before treatment, I had a ham rip that lasted 7 years. And I'm mid fifties, not 18.

You did not tear your hamstring, lose a close match, and then be recovered in 4 days. That is fundamentally impossible, and I mean impossible. You would be unable to walk if you actually tore your hamstring. Pulled muscles are ranked in "Grades", and a Grade 1 hamstring pull takes approximately 3 weeks from physical activity to recover. A Grade 3 is a tear and requires surgery and that many months to recover.

[sundaypunch]

For god's sake people, don't take pseudo-medical advice from random people on the internet........

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by sundaypunch

For god's sake people, don't take pseudo-medical advice from random people on the internet........

I'm trying the best that I can to make sure that doesn't happen.

[SFrazeur]

[UCSF2012]

Originally Posted by kiteboard

I ripped my hamstring in a tournament, on icy steps, over the week end. I've since healed it. No more pain anyway. If you've ever ripped a ham, it can last for years untreated. It's four days of treatment. I lost the match 7-6 6-4, but that was due to the rip. I'm not special. Before treatment, I had a ham rip that lasted 7 years. And I'm mid fifties, not 18.

How do I know it was a real rip? Great pain, no sleep, limping, soreness, swelling, weakness upon lifting leg in postions, knotted sore spot, pain upon touching, slower movements, etc. Anyone else heal a ham rip in four days? No.

Sorry, that type of injury takes a couple weeks to heal. The cells involved in repairing a hamstring rip takes 3-4 days just to get to the site. You had acute inflammation at most. Your body did NOT repair a hamstring rip in 4 days. Biologically impossible. Stop making crap up.

[maggmaster]

There probably is a lesser injury, below a grade on strain that may heal in 4 days. Over all though, I see no science in this method of healing. Though, if you believe in it, you may be able to take advantage of the placebo effect.

[boramiNYC]

not sure about healing but mastering tai chi will help you prevent getting seriously injured in the first place so I see benefit there.

[kiteboard]

I can say that the symptoms were there. A lower grade pull. Without this treatment, this type of pull in my previous history would take 3 weeks to heal. It's now ready for match play five days later. I've played matches with: broken racquet hand, pulled calf, pulled groin, pulled ham, destroyed ankle at work. My job involves daily physical pain. I once took the first set off the number 1 norcal open player, the day after being jumped by six black teenagers. So I know a little bit about the subject of playing hurt! (Got one of them put away from local high school pics. Punk called me that am to threaten me about showing to court.) Lost the next two sets though. Pain got to me. Black eyes, bruises, broken hand, and still took the first set off the #1 open player in northern cal. What should that tell you? It should tell you that almost no here could have done that uninjured, let alone with a broken fractured frame hand.

I find it telling that no one sees any value out of the obvious. This works. Not just with me, with anyone willing to hear it. Anyone who does not believe in the energetic fields, talk to chinese medicine experts like Djokovics doctor Igor Cetkovic. Although it's usually a waste of time posting here, someone may benefit from it. If you do, let others know.

Igor came onto his team in June 2010, and his winning streak began shortly after. He treated Dj with the scio machine and accupuncture daily. That's when Dj's speed went up and his consistency also. When the doc left after wimby win, Dj started going back down to normal again and losing a lot more. Dj even bought a scio machine to inject himself with energetic fields.

In my experience, this also heals back pulls over night as well. Works best if you tighten abdomen core, and bend over, and "shove" from ab towards your lower back and simultaneously towards the injury. Blood pressure goes through the roof for a short time. Not for the faint of heart or easily frightened.

[boramiNYC]

no need to get too dismayed. I'm in medical field and have studied science up to the level where I have presented my work at conferences. and I have to say there is so much alternative medicine and oriental traditions can offer in terms of preventative health, longevity, and mental health, and probably more. so I pay attention to your kind of post but it takes a shift in belief system and culture to see the power of these areas and it's simply difficult for majority of people who really don't feel the need to question their beliefs.
don't know about your assertion Djok is playing worse now that doctor is gone but it's interesting theory.

[kiteboard]

He was virtually undefeated during the doc's tenure, and began losing at the year end tournament and davis cup after he left. It was energy related, as you could see in his movements and attitude.

It is unsettling to me that so many would put it down, without any experience doing it. That is the same as reviewing a string without actually using it: os/4s, ie.

I use this every time I get hurt and it works each time. And no one here has, yet, so many are willing to bad mouth it. Pathetic and usual.

[sureshs]

There are various levels of credibility. I am also into alternate medicine and herbs. It is the reality that certain claims have to be rejected without trying them out.

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by kiteboard

I can say that the symptoms were there. A lower grade pull. Without this treatment, this type of pull in my previous history would take 3 weeks to heal. It's now ready for match play five days later. I've played matches with: broken racquet hand, pulled calf, pulled groin, pulled ham, destroyed ankle at work. My job involves daily physical pain. I once took the first set off the number 1 norcal open player, the day after being jumped by six black teenagers. So I know a little bit about the subject of playing hurt! (Got one of them put away from local high school pics. Punk called me that am to threaten me about showing to court.) Lost the next two sets though. Pain got to me. Black eyes, bruises, broken hand, and still took the first set off the #1 open player in northern cal. What should that tell you? It should tell you that almost no here could have done that uninjured, let alone with a broken fractured frame hand.

I find it telling that no one sees any value out of the obvious. This works. Not just with me, with anyone willing to hear it. Anyone who does not believe in the energetic fields, talk to chinese medicine experts like Djokovics doctor Igor Cetkovic. Although it's usually a waste of time posting here, someone may benefit from it. If you do, let others know.

Igor came onto his team in June 2010, and his winning streak began shortly after. He treated Dj with the scio machine and accupuncture daily. That's when Dj's speed went up and his consistency also. When the doc left after wimby win, Dj started going back down to normal again and losing a lot more. Dj even bought a scio machine to inject himself with energetic fields.

In my experience, this also heals back pulls over night as well. Works best if you tighten abdomen core, and bend over, and "shove" from ab towards your lower back and simultaneously towards the injury. Blood pressure goes through the roof for a short time. Not for the faint of heart or easily frightened.

kiteboard, you DO know that I am black, right? So when you say you got jumped by black teenagers as though that's fundamentally different to being mugged by 6 people in general, it makes me take you even less seriously than I am. Which wasn't very serious at all in the first place, so on that note, good day.

[5263]

Originally Posted by pvaudio

kiteboard, you DO know that I am black, right? So when you say you got jumped by black teenagers as though that's fundamentally different to being mugged by 6 people in general, it makes me take you even less seriously than I am. Which wasn't very serious at all in the first place, so on that note, good day.

I hope you were just as offended when larry bird stated he felt insulted when the opposing
team put a white player to guard him.

[SFrazeur]

Originally Posted by kiteboard

I can say that the symptoms were there. A lower grade pull. Without this treatment, this type of pull in my previous history would take 3 weeks to heal. It's now ready for match play five days later. I've played matches with: broken racquet hand, pulled calf, pulled groin, pulled ham, destroyed ankle at work. My job involves daily physical pain. I once took the first set off the number 1 norcal open player, the day after being jumped by six black teenagers. So I know a little bit about the subject of playing hurt! (Got one of them put away from local high school pics. Punk called me that am to threaten me about showing to court.) Lost the next two sets though. Pain got to me. Black eyes, bruises, broken hand, and still took the first set off the #1 open player in northern cal. What should that tell you? It should tell you that almost no here could have done that uninjured, let alone with a broken fractured frame hand.

I find it telling that no one sees any value out of the obvious. This works. Not just with me, with anyone willing to hear it. Anyone who does not believe in the energetic fields, talk to chinese medicine experts like Djokovics doctor Igor Cetkovic. Although it's usually a waste of time posting here, someone may benefit from it. If you do, let others know.

. . .

It tells me you have regularly chosen to use unsound judgment and have dangerously and foolishly chosen to play in physically compromised conditions. "Energetic fields." G, I think you have been shocked by electricity too many times while on the job.

-SF

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by 5263

I hope you were just as offended when larry bird stated he felt insulted when the opposing
team put a white player to guard him.

Hah, I'm not offended in the slightest. I honestly do not think that kiteboard is racist nor would I care if he is. I was just pointing out that he made a point to mention that it was six extra dangerous black teens rather than just being mugged by 6 teens.

[5263]

Originally Posted by kiteboard

I ripped my hamstring in a tournament, on icy steps, over the week end. I've since healed it. No more pain anyway. If you've ever ripped a ham, it can last for years untreated. It's four days of treatment. I lost the match 7-6 6-4, but that was due to the rip. I'm not special. Before treatment, I had a ham rip that lasted 7 years. And I'm mid fifties, not 18.

How do I know it was a real rip? Great pain, no sleep, limping, soreness, swelling, weakness upon lifting leg in postions, knotted sore spot, pain upon touching, slower movements, etc. Anyone else heal a ham rip in four days? No.

Actually I had a quite similar experience with a torn calf during the warm up for
1st rd of Alta playoffs. I was carried off the court by teammates and replaced.
I started a schedule of vitalzym (blend of enzymes for recovery) and was ready
for our second round match the next weekend. Calf tears normally heal slower
than Hams in my experience. I've seen guys lose 6 wks to 6 months with them.
I did use ice the 1st two days as well and was about 80%+ for the match and we won easily.
Yes...it was torn, with all the black and blue discoloring that dropped down to
the ankle area. There are ways to improve healing.

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by 5263

I hope you were just as offended when larry bird stated he felt insulted when the opposing
team put a white player to guard him.

This is the kind of stupid and offensive statement when someone points out an issue. Larry Bird is not the topic of discussion here, and did not post here. It is a comment made by one poster about another poster. Whether that rises to the level of being offensive or not is not the point. The point is statements like yours that someone who complains about something must also show proof of having complained about something else which did not involve him or anyone under discussion. No, people do not have to solve the world's problems before pointing out that something is wrong. And they do not have to be perfect people in their daily lives either.

You really need to educate yourself on these issues. Arguments like yours were standard decades ago, and you are stuck in that time.

[boramiNYC]

Originally Posted by pvaudio

Hah, I'm not offended in the slightest. I honestly do not think that kiteboard is racist nor would I care if he is. I was just pointing out that he made a point to mention that it was six extra dangerous black teens rather than just being mugged by 6 teens.

it's unfortunate the color jumps out from his anecdote but if it was true I don't believe there's much issue about racism. no generalization just specific incident.

he didn't need to mention the color for the purpose of the story but I think most of us can see thru those peculiar and personal tendencies can't we?

[treblings]

Originally Posted by sureshs

This is the kind of stupid and offensive statement when someone points out an issue. Larry Bird is not the topic of discussion here, and did not post here. It is a comment made by one poster about another poster. Whether that rises to the level of being offensive or not is not the point. The point is statements like yours that someone who complains about something must also show proof of having complained about something else which did not involve him or anyone under discussion. No, people do not have to solve the world's problems before pointing out that something is wrong. And they do not have to be perfect people in their daily lives either.

You really need to educate yourself on these issues. Arguments like yours were standard decades ago, and you are stuck in that time.

cool, another thread on the way to being deleted

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by boramiNYC

it's unfortunate the color jumps out from his anecdote but if it was true I don't believe there's much issue about racism. no generalization just specific incident.

he didn't need to mention the color for the purpose of the story but I think most of us can see thru those peculiar and personal tendencies can't we?

Hey, I take probably the most relaxed view on race of anyone I know, but unfortunately life experiences do shape our perceptions. My remark was not intended to start a firestorm, but it was too obvious to me that it needed to be black muggers to be on the same level as playing with torn muscles. As I said, I think no differently of kiteboard nor do I think he's racist. I just chose to call it out. It is these subtle things that people don't realize do indeed get noticed. Besides, kiteboard has far too many other peculiar traits for anyone to call him anything but eccentric