Heal injuries in half the time.

[5263]

Originally Posted by sureshs

This is the kind of stupid and offensive statement when someone points out an issue. Larry Bird is not the topic of discussion here, and did not post here. It is a comment made by one poster about another poster. Whether that rises to the level of being offensive or not is not the point. The point is statements like yours that someone who complains about something must also show proof of having complained about something else which did not involve him or anyone under discussion. No, people do not have to solve the world's problems before pointing out that something is wrong. And they do not have to be perfect people in their daily lives either.

You really need to educate yourself on these issues. Arguments like yours were standard decades ago, and you are stuck in that time.

Lighten up Francis, lol.
I didn't make any argument. Just made a statement that added some perspective. If you
don't get that or appreciate that...it's fine.
Not sure where you dreamed up the idea that we shouldn't comment on those who don't post here?

[5263]

Originally Posted by treblings

cool, another thread on the way to being deleted

Exactly...he's just trying to turn it into something it isn't or either really
doesn't understand.

[5263]

Originally Posted by pvaudio

Hah, I'm not offended in the slightest. I honestly do not think that kiteboard is racist nor would I care if he is. I was just pointing out that he made a point to mention that it was six extra dangerous black teens rather than just being mugged by 6 teens.

Haha, I know you weren't. My comment was more just to make light of it and
show how it goes both ways...and does little good to be sensitive to it. The
fact that he added some level of description to his attackers means little.

[Cheetah]

Kiteboard's comment wasn't 100% innocent. You think he would have said '6 white teens' if that were the case?

Then he calls everyone here 'pathetic' for not adopting his quick healing scheme.
And last week he calls Andy Murray 'a jerk' and 'not deserving of his talent' because of the 'emotional poisoning of his timing' and not properly channeling his 'subconscious clock engine'. whatever.

Kiteboard, you're becoming annoying.

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by 5263

Lighten up Francis, lol.
I didn't make any argument. Just made a statement that added some perspective. If you
don't get that or appreciate that...it's fine.
Not sure where you dreamed up the idea that we shouldn't comment on those who don't post here?

Thinking back over it at lunch, I think I overreacted.

[treblings]

Originally Posted by sureshs

Thinking back over it at lunch, I think I overreacted.

must have been a good lunch

[BHiC]

Originally Posted by kiteboard

I can say that the symptoms were there. A lower grade pull. Without this treatment, this type of pull in my previous history would take 3 weeks to heal. It's now ready for match play five days later. I've played matches with: broken racquet hand, pulled calf, pulled groin, pulled ham, destroyed ankle at work. My job involves daily physical pain. I once took the first set off the number 1 norcal open player, the day after being jumped by six black teenagers. So I know a little bit about the subject of playing hurt! (Got one of them put away from local high school pics. Punk called me that am to threaten me about showing to court.) Lost the next two sets though. Pain got to me. Black eyes, bruises, broken hand, and still took the first set off the #1 open player in northern cal. What should that tell you? It should tell you that almost no here could have done that uninjured, let alone with a broken fractured frame hand.

I find it telling that no one sees any value out of the obvious. This works. Not just with me, with anyone willing to hear it. Anyone who does not believe in the energetic fields, talk to chinese medicine experts like Djokovics doctor Igor Cetkovic. Although it's usually a waste of time posting here, someone may benefit from it. If you do, let others know.

Igor came onto his team in June 2010, and his winning streak began shortly after. He treated Dj with the scio machine and accupuncture daily. That's when Dj's speed went up and his consistency also. When the doc left after wimby win, Dj started going back down to normal again and losing a lot more. Dj even bought a scio machine to inject himself with energetic fields.

In my experience, this also heals back pulls over night as well. Works best if you tighten abdomen core, and bend over, and "shove" from ab towards your lower back and simultaneously towards the injury. Blood pressure goes through the roof for a short time. Not for the faint of heart or easily frightened.

I have an example of someone who does not believe in energetic fields, and that is the makers of Power Balance in Australia.

http://news.discovery.com/human/powe...worthless.html

If you don't want to click on the article here are several quotes -

Statements like ‘We are a frequency’ and ‘We are a bunch of cells held together by a frequency’ are completely at odds with scientific knowledge. I e-mailed the company and asked simple questions like, 'How do you measure the frequency of a rock?' They didn't answer.”

How, exactly, were the bands said to work in the first place? Josh Rodarmel, co-creator of the bracelets, tried to explain the “science” behind his product by claiming that everything in nature has a “frequency,” and that the Power Balance bands restore a “natural healing frequency.”

Claims like this, though common in New Age and “alternative” health circles, are laughable to scientists and skeptics like Harriet Hall, a retired medical doctor and former Air Force surgeon.

[sureshs]

I have read a lot about this - energy fields, halos, chakras, qi, energized water, magnetic and ionic bracelets, etc. There is an underlying truth that every "thing" is ultimately just vibrations or waves and also that quantum effects are completely true yet completely at odds with everyday experience. The practitioners of these energy methods use these concepts to imply that somehow these effects are important in what they are doing. Because the body emits electromagnetic waves does not mean that moving a metal ring over an injury will fix the problem. Because the planets and stars exert gravitational force on us does not mean they control our destiny.

But what can you say when the staple of "travel" and "science" channels on TV are shows about paranormal things like ghosts and haunted hotels and spirits. A guy goes around with a meter and pronounces that a ghost has been sensed. A woman is "sure" that a spirit bumped into her and vanished. There are actually companies which will send investigators to hunt down the ghosts in your home.

[sundaypunch]

Originally Posted by treblings

cool, another thread on the way to being deleted

That would be a positive thing considering the bad medical advice and unintended offensive comments.

[LeeD]

Can/should we embrace the notion of alternative medicine?
Do we need to knock any new idea? Or any idea we don't embrace?
And of course, as said, what do we really HAVE to lose? Most veteran docs know there are lots of alternative healing processes that seem to work.
I don't think anyone is saying the cure works for every injury every time, just that it might be a viable alternative to conventional medicine.

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Can/should we embrace the notion of alternative medicine?
Do we need to knock any new idea? Or any idea we don't embrace?
And of course, as said, what do we really HAVE to lose? Most veteran docs know there are lots of alternative healing processes that seem to work.
I don't think anyone is saying the cure works for every injury every time, just that it might be a viable alternative to conventional medicine.

There is a lot of alternative medicine that works (in non-emergency situations).

[boramiNYC]

Originally Posted by sureshs

There is a lot of alternative medicine that works (in non-emergency situations).

all doctors say preventive medicine is very important but I'm not sure how many really understand how. improving the quality of health when not sick has a lot to do with trying to improve a skill like tennis. proactive thinking instead of being reactive. can't charge as much money doing this however.

[Ash_Smith]

Kite - you obviously take a very holistic view to things, are you also a creationist (genuine question)?

[pvaudio]

I should say at the outset that I have no problems with alternative medicine. It is wholly your choice to use these methods as it's your body. However, I do have issue with people recommending potentially injury-inducing techniques that only they have heard of. I understand that this is an internet forum and it's take it with a grain of salt or leave it, but there are no alternative medicine techniques which are directly harmful in an effort to improve health. That goes back to the days of blood letting and pain therapy. If you want to believe in alternative methods, then please do feel free to post them as many do in fact help lots of people. However, tearing a muscle, playing a close tennis match and then being fully healed in 4 days due to a potentially hazardous technique is not in that category.

[LeeD]

Don't forget, 50 years ago, when you had pins inserted into a broken leg, it was thought best to REST the leg and the body, never work up a sweat or increase your heartbeat, to cure the break.
Less than 20 years later, it was believed moderate exercise was the call, even with the bones NOT set, right after pin insertion.
Now, it's pretty much normal to get the heartbeat up, work up a light sweat, and use your body to heal any bones that are held together with pins, plates, screws, or wire.
The times, they are a changing.

[kiteboard]

IN order to play the open player, the next day, with a broken bone in my frame hand, I took a vibrator to it, with a heat pad, after icing it, and then taped the broken finger to the unbroken ones, and made a temp cast, I could remove before and after the match. Hurt like hell, but healed fast in three weeks even after the match, but I kept vibrating it, and removing the cast nightly after work. During estimates, so people did not see I had a cast on, I wore a jacket over the broken hand to hide the cast.

Having track experience, and seen and felt many pulls, I know what a pull is. The open player I played was black also, very dark color. It's not relevant, except for visuality. If you've ever been mugged by a group, of punks, using weapons like sticks and such, you know what that feels like. Hard to see out of blackened eyes. The true point is, I am not normal. To be able to win any games at all would be abnormal. I took it to him by serving and volleying to his bh weak side only.

It's not a race issue. We all love the game otherwise why post? If it does not help you, don't do it, but to call it dangerous, is silly. What do you think happens to your blood pressure when you play? When you run? When you grunt or serve? It goes through the roof. This is raising blood pressure without raising heart beat. Shoving with energy and not just pressure. For you to call it dangerous is only due to ignorance. To review string you have not tried is also ignorant.

[kiteboard]

Originally Posted by Ash_Smith

Kite - you obviously take a very holistic view to things, are you also a creationist (genuine question)?

I don't believe that the universe was created by accident, in a trillion to trillion chance that life could develop. Why are there so many people who don't see that? I don't know. In our galaxy alone there are probably 10,000 water planets like ours. With life. Water is the most valuable element. In the universe. We are sitting on a gold mine and don't know it. Just because we can't measure divinity or even our own physical energy doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[kiteboard]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Don't forget, 50 years ago, when you had pins inserted into a broken leg, it was thought best to REST the leg and the body, never work up a sweat or increase your heartbeat, to cure the break.
Less than 20 years later, it was believed moderate exercise was the call, even with the bones NOT set, right after pin insertion.
Now, it's pretty much normal to get the heartbeat up, work up a light sweat, and use your body to heal any bones that are held together with pins, plates, screws, or wire.
The times, they are a changing.

No one told me to take a vibrator to my broken bone. Speeding up the molecular vibratory rate of my own broken bone made sense to me. Pain means nothing if healing speeds up. Increase the molecular vibratory rate of anything and it speeds up most processes.

[sureshs]

Originally Posted by kiteboard

What do you think happens to your blood pressure when you play? When you run? When you grunt or serve? It goes through the roof. This is raising blood pressure without raising heart beat.

Heart rate increases during exercise.

[kiteboard]

Originally Posted by Cheetah

Kiteboard's comment wasn't 100% innocent. You think he would have said '6 white teens' if that were the case?

Then he calls everyone here 'pathetic' for not adopting his quick healing scheme.
And last week he calls Andy Murray 'a jerk' and 'not deserving of his talent' because of the 'emotional poisoning of his timing' and not properly channeling his 'subconscious clock engine'. whatever.

Kiteboard, you're becoming annoying.

I've never been jumped by six white teens. Blacks, yes, many times having grown up in a black school. Berkeley is not all black, but Richmond was mostly. Happened to me on a weekly basis, and they did it for fun because I was white, and that them made them racist, not me. The most racist people I've ever met were black, not white. Or do you believe that it's impossible for a black to be racist? Whites deserve any violence?