2012 ATP World Tour Finals: [2]Roger Federer vs [1]Novak Djokovic

[kragster]

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

Djokovic has the BEST defense EVER. And in slow courts like the O2 combined with feds now slow movement, its obvious fed is going to have to run more and will shank more because his racket head speech is way more than Djokovic's and he uses a smaller head size. But on a fast court like Cincy Fed has Blasted Djokovic out in 2009 (6-1 7-5) and in 2012 (6-0 7-6) precisely why hes beaten him in Wimby this year as well. But on slower courts Djokovic def. has the advantage big time!

Quite right, fast courts result in you having a lot more 'awkward' shots to play and Fed's amazing touch allows him to do that. Also Fed's serve is much better than Djoker's so the faster the court, the better for him!

[djokovic2008]

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

Djokovic has the BEST defense EVER. And in slow courts like the O2 combined with feds now slow movement, its obvious fed is going to have to run more and will shank more because his racket head speech is way more than Djokovic's and he uses a smaller head size. But on a fast court like Cincy Fed has Blasted Djokovic out in 2009 (6-1 7-5) and in 2012 (6-0 7-6) precisely why hes beaten him in Wimby this year as well. But on slower courts Djokovic def. has the advantage big time!

Lol whatever makes you sleep at night p.s Dubai is fast and djoker killed fed in straight sets! You have no argument fed got outplayed plain and simple you also forgot to mention djoker is the best returner of ALL TIME.

[kishnabe]

Originally Posted by djokovic2008

Lol whatever makes you sleep at night p.s Dubai is fast and djoker killed fed in straight sets! You have no argument fed got outplayed plain and simple you also forgot to mention djoker is the best returner of ALL TIME.

Pretty embaressing that a 25 year old stuggles with a 31 year old. You sorta expect Djokovic to win every encounter....but he doesn't.

[tennisenthusiast]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

Pretty embaressing that a 25 year old stuggles with a 31 year old. You sorta expect Djokovic to win every encounter....but he doesn't.

^^ This sums it all. Discussion over.

[TTMR]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

Pretty embaressing that a 25 year old stuggles with a 31 year old. You sorta expect Djokovic to win every encounter....but he doesn't.

It's a good thing Federer hasn't had a "real loss" since 2007, since he is only barely losing to guys he'd steamroll in his prime. I bet prime Roddick or Safin would feast on a 31 year old Federer.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by djokovic2008

Lol whatever makes you sleep at night p.s Dubai is fast and djoker killed fed in straight sets! You have no argument fed got outplayed plain and simple you also forgot to mention djoker is the best returner of ALL TIME.

NO, he is not.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by cc0509

NO, he is not.

You're wasting your time,cc. *********2008 thinks Cvac has the best serve,return,backhand,forehand,volleys,lobs,moveme nt,footwork,overheads,healed the sick,stopped world hunger,created heaven and earth,can squash you like a bug with his superpowers,more powerful than a locomotive,etc... You'll never convince him Cvac isn't Djesus Christ Superman with a Head racket and wearing Uniqlo. Lol. Nobody in the history of tennis ever did anything better than Djesus in his opinion.


Forum is putting spaces in my words. I guess even it knows all that stuff is bs.

[NadalDramaQueen]

Originally Posted by djokovic2008

Lol whatever makes you sleep at night p.s Dubai is fast and djoker killed fed in straight sets! You have no argument fed got outplayed plain and simple you also forgot to mention djoker is the best returner of ALL TIME.

Nah, I'm a better returner than Novak. Agassi is a bit better than me though, he had to deal with great serves on faster surfaces.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

You're wasting your time,cc. *********2008 thinks Cvac has the best serve,return,backhand,forehand,volleys,lobs,moveme nt,footwork,overheads,healed the sick,stopped world hunger,created heaven and earth,can squash you like a bug with his superpowers,more powerful than a locomotive,etc... You'll never convince him Cvac isn't Djesus Christ Superman with a Head racket and wearing Uniqlo. Lol. Nobody in the history of tennis ever did anything better than Djesus in his opinion.


Forum is putting spaces in my words. I guess even it knows all that stuff is bs.

Ha, ha. It annoys me when people say Djokovic at age 25 has the best ROS of all time. That is disrespectful of greats before him like Agassi and Connors.

[Tony48]

Originally Posted by cc0509

Whipping Federer two years in a row at the USO? Both of those matches went to five sets and could have gone either way. There was no whipping involved.

The point is people are responding to your claim that Djokovic is a better attacking player than Federer and that is a preposterous claim. Only way for Djokovic to defeat Federer is to play better defense and force Federer to make an error. When Federer is on with his attacking game and makes less errors Djokovic can't beat him and certainly can't beat Federer with a better attacking game!

This is hilariously ridiculous.

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by Tony48

This is hilariously ridiculous.

Not really. Djokovic generally beats Federer when his defense outlasts Federer's offense. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Federer, in his prime, used to play defensive Tennis from time to time against guys like Agassi and Safin.

[flyinghippos101]

Originally Posted by NadalDramaQueen

Nah, I'm a better returner than Novak. Agassi is a bit better than me though, he had to deal with great serves on faster surfaces.

Agree, it's easy to say Novak is a fantastic returner when he's returning heavy top spin serves hit by poly strings on a US Open hard court that has been slowed down considerably since 2002.

[djokovic2008]

Originally Posted by cc0509

Ha, ha. It annoys me when people say Djokovic at age 25 has the best ROS of all time. That is disrespectful of greats before him like Agassi and Connors.

This is widely known in tennis even the greats admit this and Agassi himself also admits this so who are some pimple *******s who only watch tennis on YouTube and post ridiculous gif images to disagree with pros. Fed himself has said many times and again this week after the straight sets beatdown on Monday that djoker returns are like a BULLET.

[djokovic2008]

Originally Posted by tennisenthusiast

^^ This sums it all. Discussion over.

Lol what you kids don't get that in this day and age athletes are lasting longer with diet nutrition etc when djoker is 31 he will be laying the smack down and won't be getting beat by the top players like nadal murray and djoker are doing to fed.

[Netspirit]

Originally Posted by cc0509

It annoys me when people say Djokovic at age 25 has the best ROS of all time. That is disrespectful of greats before him like Agassi and Connors.

What do you mean? 25 is when most players peak, his ROS will not get any better.

[NadalDramaQueen]

Originally Posted by djokovic2008

This is widely known in tennis even the greats admit this and Agassi himself also admits this so who are some pimple *******s who only watch tennis on YouTube and post ridiculous gif images to disagree with pros. Fed himself has said many times and again this week after the straight sets beatdown on Monday that djoker returns are like a BULLET.

Give me a break. Everyone participating in this silly discussion is a ****. It is probably for the best that everyone just let it go.

[smoledman]

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[JoelDali]

Originally Posted by smoledman

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[tennis_pro]

Originally Posted by smoledman

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