Serve the Jay Berger way?

[SystemicAnomaly]

^ Yes, that is exactly what I was saying in #16.

Originally Posted by dlam

Then those video abr serve motion of Aggasi and Martin is that of starting at the trophy position
Berger looks a lot different
He seems to dangling the racket in a BS position to start and has no trophy position at all during the serve
No trophy position in the serve ?
How is that possible?

This is what I was saying in post #16. The Berger serve, starting on the shoulder, is what I am now calling a stage 1 serve. The trophy serve, a stage 2 serve, is next in the progression. A stage 3 serve is the abbreviated serve motion -- it is more continuous that the static trophy start position seen with the stage 2 serve.

Variations of the stage 3 serve include the Agassi & Martin serves seen previously in this thread. Other variations include Roddick's (standard) motion and the Serve Doctor's spring-loaded serve.

[rufus_smith]

Originally Posted by SystemicAnomaly

^ Yes, that is exactly what I was saying in #16.



This is what I was saying in post #16. The Berger serve, starting on the shoulder, is what I am now calling a stage 1 serve. The trophy serve, a stage 2 serve, is next in the progression. A stage 3 serve is the abbreviated serve motion -- it is more continuous that the static trophy start position seen with the stage 2 serve.

Variations of the stage 3 serve include the Agassi & Martin serves seen previously in this thread. Other variations include Roddick's (standard) motion and the Serve Doctor's spring-loaded serve.

I like this. Btw, there is a term "half-serve" I've seen seen used. That may or my not be stage 2.

[SystemicAnomaly]

Originally Posted by rufus_smith

I like this. Btw, there is a term "half-serve" I've seen seen used. That may or my not be stage 2.

Is that the half-court, half-grip, half- motion serve suggested by Salzenstein (or was it someone else)?

[SystemicAnomaly]

^^ Or perhaps you are referring to the half-serve pronation exercise by McCraw. He uses the "dirty diaper" finish that Salzenstein talks about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iONY6fcqZGg

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[rufus_smith]

For example, at the of bottom page, gray box, "beginner" paragraph.

http://elderton.webfactional.com/med...PointServe.pdf

[SystemicAnomaly]

^ That description of the half-serve is too vague to really be useful. Hopefully, they have a more complete explanation or image elsewhere.


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