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Old 11-16-2012, 02:45 PM   #21
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Going old school, Max 200g the whole thing is a sweetspot...strung at 50# with natty gut = buttah.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:43 PM   #22
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Just curious, but why did everyone here start using a mid/when? And which Wilson mid is the easiest/ best in your opinion?
Mentor/coach had a deal with Head and was able to get his students a discount on Head racquets, so I got a pair of rubber-paint 1st gen i.Prestige Mid.

Didn't know anything about midsize/midplus or what not. And as a young kid, I just played freely so headsize really didn't matter to me, nor did I look into it. Over time, anything bigger than a 90 felt enormous to me.

The 85 is probably the easiest "Wilson mid" to use, because of its low swingweight despite its weight. Trust me, once you get it moving, it doesn't feel heavy at all. And don't let people scare you off with "small sweetspot" nonsense. To those people, I say to them:

Get your timing right.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:52 PM   #23
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I'm finding the pacific mid ace, come from the blx range to the pacific. 1st stock racquet I have used in more than 5 years. Strings are crucial tho.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:11 PM   #24
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A mid isn't going to stop you from being lazy any more than a mid plus or oversize. If you're lazy then you're going to leave balls short, and going to sail balls when your technique is just off.

I can relate to you, do your self a favor and get another pro open and stay off the forums for a while. You are over thinking this process when we both know you justwant a shiner new racket.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:14 PM   #25
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I am not a mid user, but if the world was coming to and end and all midpluses disappeared I would be happy to hit with a PC600 of some sort.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:14 PM   #26
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A mid isn't going to stop you from being lazy any more than a mid plus or oversize. If you're lazy then you're going to leave balls short, and going to sail balls when your technique is just off.

I can relate to you, do your self a favor and get another pro open and stay off the forums for a while. You are over thinking this process when we both know you justwant a shiner new racket.
Come now, you know you can't say those words. The game is all about rocking the latest gear. The player doesn't miss a shot, it's the equipment that led to the error or failed tactic. You'd be a fool if you take the time to practice.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:16 PM   #27
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A mid isn't going to stop you from being lazy any more than a mid plus or oversize. If you're lazy then you're going to leave balls short, and going to sail balls when your technique is just off.

I can relate to you, do your self a favor and get another pro open and stay off the forums for a while. You are over thinking this process when we both know you justwant a shiner new racket.
Hahahaha. Well is that totally a bad thing? should I just add weight to my pro open then? I don't like the light weight. Love everything else though
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:53 PM   #28
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How about grabbing a couple of old school, conventional head woodies to hit for a week or two for 2-3 hours everyday? This will certainly make any racket easy to play, save the really big granny oversize ones. And will really keep your techniques "well-disciplined". You can also use it as a trainer racket once a week or so, too.

And, this way, you're not falling to the nice new shiny racket temptation too.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:57 PM   #29
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I like your thinking...HOWEVER...I only have one usable racket at the moment, and that's my pro open. It currently is unstrung ever since I broke my strings. I need at least one more racket. So I'm not just buying a new racket for the hell of it.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:58 PM   #30
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Come now, you know you can't say those words. The game is all about rocking the latest gear. The player doesn't miss a shot, it's the equipment that led to the error or failed tactic. You'd be a fool if you take the time to practice.
I don't believe in this crap at all unless I'm using a Walmart racket or a 115 or bigger
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:37 PM   #31
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Lets put it this way Mike:

Because of your recent musings on mids, I decided to take my PS90 out for a hit. I played 2 sets against someone I normally take to the cleaners.

The first set I won 6-1 with my normal BLX Blade. Serving went well, game play was nice.

The second set, I won 7-6 in a tie break with the PS90. It didn't offer me the same level of confidence as my Blades do. This is totally on me, but it reinforces the fact that for me at least, mids aren't optimal. Sure I had an absolute blast playing with it serving bombs and hitting sweet volleys, but it doesn't match up to my game well.

For you, mids might match extremely well. I believe we're around the same level within +/- .5 so it's not a bad time to really make a choice to stick with in the long haul.

Grab another Pro Open and a reel of lead tape. I assure you that lead opens up an entire new world of rackets. I've modded almost every single racket I've owned and it makes for a great way to get that shiny new racket feeling way more often.

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Old 11-16-2012, 07:43 PM   #32
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Hmm alright. You make a valid point.

If I add enough weight to my pro open to make it 12oz or so will it give it too much power? I would only add a little to the head and a ton to the grip. Also, my pro opens probably wont match up in weight since I don't have a scale
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:52 PM   #33
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Hmm alright. You make a valid point.

If I add enough weight to my pro open to make it 12oz or so will it give it too much power? I would only add a little to the head and a ton to the grip. Also, my pro opens probably wont match up in weight since I don't have a scale
Not if you put it in the handle.

Lead tape doesn't give you all that power, it gives you stability instead.
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Not if you put it in the handle.

Lead tape doesn't give you all that power, it gives you stability instead.
Ok, so after I pull off the base grip, how do I put it back on?

I am going to assume that the SW of my racket is 315 because it was just a little lower than a radical ig mp that I demoed, and that's supposed to have 320. So...I would like to have the SW at 325. How much lead do I put? 10 grams?
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:32 PM   #35
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Ok, so after I pull off the base grip, how do I put it back on?

I am going to assume that the SW of my racket is 315 because it was just a little lower than a radical ig mp that I demoed, and that's supposed to have 320. So...I would like to have the SW at 325. How much lead do I put? 10 grams?
Why are you trying to add weight to your frame? I assure you, lead tape and equipment play a minimum role in improving your game. And there's no point to add lead just to say you've got a modified racquet.

As for the grip, you can just re-wrap it as if you were putting on a replacement/overgrip. If it's stapled, then that's even easier, because you don't have to remove the whole grip. Just leave it dangling when you're applying the lead, and then wrap it up again.

As for the swingweight, if I can tell you exactly how much to add, then that means I have a Ph.D in physics, which I do not have. Add until you feel comfortable with the racquet.

Lastly, you should know that the "feel" of swingweight is not universal among all racquets. As in, a SW of 320 in your BLX Pro Open is going to feel different than a Radical with the SW of 320.

If you're going to modify your racquet, don't modify by the numbers, modify by feel.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:17 PM   #36
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Of all the racquets I've ever tried in stock form over the years, the O3 Tour mid stands out as the best all-around performer for me.
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Why are you trying to add weight to your frame? I assure you, lead tape and equipment play a minimum role in improving your game. And there's no point to add lead just to say you've got a modified racquet.

As for the grip, you can just re-wrap it as if you were putting on a replacement/overgrip. If it's stapled, then that's even easier, because you don't have to remove the whole grip. Just leave it dangling when you're applying the lead, and then wrap it up again.

As for the swingweight, if I can tell you exactly how much to add, then that means I have a Ph.D in physics, which I do not have. Add until you feel comfortable with the racquet.

Lastly, you should know that the "feel" of swingweight is not universal among all racquets. As in, a SW of 320 in your BLX Pro Open is going to feel different than a Radical with the SW of 320.

If you're going to modify your racquet, don't modify by the numbers, modify by feel.
I want to add lead because I like a heavier feeling racket.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:48 AM   #38
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I like the Dunlop Aerogel 100 with lead tape to give it more heft and stability. Also try demoing the Bio 100 to see if you like.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:24 AM   #39
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Since I don't play competitive tennis, I just started using mids for bragging rights. It really hasn't made a difference in my play, the maneuverability helped my one hand backhand doe -also used because it looks cooler. I'm so cool one hander and mid head, I'm just like federer
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I want to add lead because I like a heavier feeling racket.
If you want your racquets to be heavier, but like the stock balance, put lead at 6 o'clock/throat. Do know that wherever you apply the lead tape, the sweetspot will gravitate in that direction.
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