Worst band ever: REM or Chili Peppers?

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by Mike Bulgakov

It is hard to find Amanita Muscaria mushrooms in rural New Jersey. Nevertheless, NYC has the best fly agaric pizza in the world.

You’d be surprised at things you can find in rural New Jersey. As for muhomors, I always thought they were only good to keep flies away, but now that I look at the wikipedia article, apparently people in Siberia have been using those to get high for some time now. Live and learn...

[heycal]

Originally Posted by tricky

Yeah, we'll have to disagree on that. The first time I heard "Velvet Underground & Nico", it was shocking to hear 11 songs that could plausibly have grandfathered 11 different genres of college/indie rock. Half of the songs on that album alone are classics to me. They're just not radio staples.

What are these half dozen classic songs? I have the VU on my ipod, and there's really only a few songs I enjoy hearing on a a regular basis. I skip the rest.

Originally Posted by tricky

As you know, there was an artistic back exchange between Brian Wilson and Macca/Lennon. Rubber Soul inspired Brian to make a "total album." McCartney listened to Pet Sounds and changed how he used his bass playing to carry a song. Brian inspired Paul to go further in "pop symphony" direction. Borrowing music hall elements yet still playing by the pop playbook.

But who 'needed' who more? The Beatles were going to do innovative things with or without Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys. Not so sure the opposite is true.

Originally Posted by BauerAlmeida

Another One Bites The Dust is not even a Top 30 Queen song.

If you're going to judge a band, do it based on their best stuff, not by a mediocre 3 chord song. 90% of songs written by Mercury or May are better than that one. Deacon was never a great songwriter, although he did write some nice songs (Spread Your Wings, or Best Friend).

And what's wrong with Kansas?? They're a fantastic band.

If Kansas has another song besides the acceptable but not exceptional "Carry on my wayward son", I'm not aware of it.

As for Queen, I'm sorry, but it's not our fault that their most popular songs are the only ones known to mankind. Furthermore, in my cursory investigation into their other songs, I've found only one I could bear listening to so far. So many of them seem to have a distinctly "Another one bites the dust" feel to them.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Freddie Mercury had an Elvis problem: phenomenal singer, but few wonderful songs.

[Tennusdude]

Music is for people to enjoy and if you are unable to do so it is unfortunate.

[Michelle1965]

What does this have to with tennis? It's a little insulting. I like both, REM more if that helps.

[ninman]

Originally Posted by heycal

What are these half dozen classic songs? I have the VU on my ipod, and there's really only a few songs I enjoy hearing on a a regular basis. I skip the rest.



But who 'needed' who more? The Beatles were going to do innovative things with or without Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys. Not so sure the opposite is true.




If Kansas has another song besides the acceptable but not exceptional "Carry on my wayward son", I'm not aware of it.

As for Queen, I'm sorry, but it's not our fault that their most popular songs are the only ones known to mankind. Furthermore, in my cursory investigation into their other songs, I've found only one I could bear listening to so far. So many of them seem to have a distinctly "Another one bites the dust" feel to them.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Freddie Mercury had an Elvis problem: phenomenal singer, but few wonderful songs.

I'm not sure if these posts are serious, or just plain trolling. Brian Wilson was already moving away from Surf stuff well before Pet Sounds. The "Today" album does not have a single surfing or car song on it. Also Smile was not inspired by The Beatles.

Next, Freddie Mercury was one of the primary song writers for Queen. He wrote 10 of the 17 songs on their greatest hits album. Bohemian Raphosdy, Sombody to Love, Love of my Life, Crazy Little Thing Called Love, Don't Stop Me Now, We Are The Champions, Seven Seas of Rhye. Freddie Mercury was a terrific song writer.

[dParis]

Originally Posted by heycal

If Kansas has another song besides the acceptable but not exceptional "Carry on my wayward son", I'm not aware of it.

Dust? Wind?

Dude...

[heycal]

Originally Posted by ninman

I'm not sure if these posts are serious, or just plain trolling. Brian Wilson was already moving away from Surf stuff well before Pet Sounds. The "Today" album does not have a single surfing or car song on it. Also Smile was not inspired by The Beatles.

Can you tell us what some of these great songs are? I can't think of them. Good Vibrations? Anything else?

Originally Posted by ninman

Next, Freddie Mercury was one of the primary song writers for Queen. He wrote 10 of the 17 songs on their greatest hits album. Bohemian Raphosdy, Sombody to Love, Love of my Life, Crazy Little Thing Called Love, Don't Stop Me Now, We Are The Champions, Seven Seas of Rhye.

You just proved my case better than I could, Ninman. Most of these songs aren't great. Bohemian Rhaphosdy, yes. Everything else listed? Nope.

Originally Posted by dParis

Dust? Wind?

Dude...

Oh, yes. That middling piece of work. I think remembered another song of theirs earlier in the day as well, but I've already forgotten it. Not surprising, since they weren't a particularly distinguished band.

Hell, just be thankful solo artists aren't included here, dParis, because Neil Young has at least twice as many great songs as Queen and Kansas put together. He'd be way up there.

[ninman]

Originally Posted by heycal

Can you tell us what some of these great songs are? I can't think of them. Good Vibrations? Anything else?

If you don't know The Beach Boys Catalogue then you aren't really able to say if it was great or not. However to satisfy your small mind, here we go.

Please Let me Wonder, Good to My Baby, Kiss Me Baby, When I Grow Up (To be a Man), Help Me Rhonda.

All from that one Album. Also Good Vibrations was written after Pet Sounds.

You honestly think that Somebody to Love is not as good as Bohemian Raphosdy?

[Timbo's hopeless slice]

don't argue with him, it's pointless.

he called me kid, lol, probably because I named a couple of bands he considers 'modern'. Never mind that both have had longer recording and performing careers than The Beatles and are (gasp) still together. (and enormously successful both in terms of commercial success and critical acclaim.

he's just a beatles fan boy, doesn't even realise how derivative they were because he's never heard of the people they listened to (and freely acknowledged as influences)

just don't waste your breath.

[r2473]

Originally Posted by Timbo's hopeless slice

don't argue with him, it's pointless.

What if no one won.......

[Mike Bulgakov]

Originally Posted by SoBad

You’d be surprised at things you can find in rural New Jersey.

Not after watching almost an entire episode of "Jersey Shore" on MTV. I found the show to be very depressing and dull. I am sure that whatever I found would need to be sterilized.

[Mike Bulgakov]

Originally Posted by SoBad

As for muhomors, I always thought they were only good to keep flies away, but now that I look at the wikipedia article, apparently people in Siberia have been using those to get high for some time now. Live and learn...

If flies wore skinny jeans, would muhomors give them a second chance? Do New Jersey flies appreciate the superiority of NYC pizza?

[dParis]

Originally Posted by heycal

Oh, yes. That middling piece of work. I think remembered another song of theirs earlier in the day as well, but I've already forgotten it. Not surprising, since they weren't a particularly distinguished band.

Carry On Blah,blah,blah... and Dust in the Wind are all I can remember. And I think someone played a violin prominently.

Hell, just be thankful solo artists aren't included here, dParis, because Neil Young has at least twice as many great songs as Queen and Kansas put together. He'd be way up there.

Ha, all this talk of great (and not so great) bands and you have to drop the equivalent of a steaming turd in our morning Cheerios.

[heycal]

Originally Posted by ninman

If you don't know The Beach Boys Catalogue then you aren't really able to say if it was great or not. However to satisfy your small mind, here we go.

Please Let me Wonder, Good to My Baby, Kiss Me Baby, When I Grow Up (To be a Man), Help Me Rhonda.

Help me Rhonda? Boy, that was some ground-breaking stuff. I bet the Beatles were shaking in their boots when they heard that one...

I'm sure I've heard almost everything the Beach Boys have done at one time or another, but I can't help it if I can't remember unmemorable songs.

Originally Posted by ninman

You honestly think that Somebody to Love is not as good as Bohemian Raphosdy?

Nope. It suffers a problem that's often found in Queen songs: Not the most pleasant sound on any level. It's not the worst song in the world -- it' not like we're talking REM or RHCP or anything -- but there is something abrasive about it.

Originally Posted by Timbo's hopeless slice

he called me kid, lol, probably because I named a couple of bands he considers 'modern'. Never mind that both have had longer recording and performing careers than The Beatles and are (gasp) still together. (and enormously successful both in terms of commercial success and critical acclaim.

Are you the Radiohead and Muse kid? Ah yes. Two of the greats... Yup. Beatles, Stones, Radiohead, and Muse. The final four of rock and roll!

[BauerAlmeida]

Queen in interpretation and songwriting is miles ahead of Neil Young. Neil Young was a great LYRICIST but nothing special as a songwriter.

"Somebody to Love" is a fantastic song, ALMOST as good as "Boh Rap". The same goes for "March of the Black Queen", "Innuendo" and "Millonaire Waltz". Do you think those aren't great??

Very complex, full of arrangements and a magnificent interpretation. Queen had 3 great vocalists (one was out of this world), while some bands barely have one.

And first you say you only heard ONE Kansas song, but then yoy go on and say Neil has twice as many good songs as them...How can you know if you never listened to them??

You seem to believe HITS are the best songs from their any band, and they're not. Hits are a success because they're more commercial and easy-listening for the public. Kansas has dozens of great songs. Dust In The Wind, The Wall, Point Of Know Return, Rainmaker, Miracles Out Of Nowhere, The Pinnacle, etc.

[Timbo's hopeless slice]

Originally Posted by heycal

Are you the Radiohead and Muse kid? Ah yes. Two of the greats... Yup. Beatles, Stones, Radiohead, and Muse. The final four of rock and roll!

accidental irony 101

you would find plenty of music critics who would agree, actually..

but I bet you never even heard of OK Computer, have you?

[BauerAlmeida]

Originally Posted by Timbo's hopeless slice

accidental irony 101

you would find plenty of music critics who would agree, actually..

but I bet you never even heard of OK Computer, have you?

Ok Computer is a masterpiece. Maybe the best album of the 90's.

[Timbo's hopeless slice]

Originally Posted by BauerAlmeida

Ok Computer is a masterpiece. Maybe the best album of the 90's.

ye, I could mount an argument for that.

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by Mike Bulgakov

Not after watching almost an entire episode of "Jersey Shore" on MTV. I found the show to be very depressing and dull. I am sure that whatever I found would need to be sterilized.

I am not familiar with TV shows because I don't have a TV, but "shore" and "rural" are practically antonyms when it comes to NJ.

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by Mike Bulgakov

If flies wore skinny jeans, would muhomors give them a second chance? Do New Jersey flies appreciate the superiority of NYC pizza?

NJ flies (and roaches) never make it across the Hudson River, ever.