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Old 08-25-2012, 04:34 AM   #21
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Some interesting information about great players was found, for instance:
- They played 45-50 singles matches per year plus 15 doubles matches, which was below average for these ages.
- They practiced around 10 hours per week, which was below the average for the group, and two to four hours less than the top 12-13 year-old players.
Look at the article: http://wp.me/p2iyrR-bY

100 matches an year for 10-12 year old? You cannot be serious.
Somebody has a business competitor they are slamming on a message board
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:06 AM   #22
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200 privates a year seems like a lot. One a week is good for us.
Completely agree with you and that's what I did with my kid, particularly in the younger years. I view it like taking a weekly piano lesson. Learn and then go practice/play.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:48 AM   #23
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If you play 24 tournaments a year (average of 2 per month), 100 matches could happen to a great player in the 10s and 12s.

There are many 10-12 kids that take 200+ privates a year. That's a crazy number to me.
If 10-12 kids play 24 tournaments a year, they do not have a periodization at all.

200+ privates for 10-12 yo???? It guarantees nothing anyway.

Parents just want to buy feeling that they do "everything" for their kid.
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:07 AM   #24
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If you play 24 tournaments a year (average of 2 per month), 100 matches could happen to a great player in the 10s and 12s.

There are many 10-12 kids that take 200+ privates a year. That's a crazy number to me.
Highly unlikely... if you're talking about 200+ hrs of privates, retaining a fulltime coach, or if the coach is mom or dad, that's a different matter.
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:21 AM   #25
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If you play 24 tournaments a year (average of 2 per month), 100 matches could happen to a great player in the 10s and 12s.
I don't even think it takes 24 tournaments or a great player. If you only play your sections 12 designateds, singles and doubles, and play the consolation rounds, you don't even have to go that deep into the tournament on both draws to play 8 matches per tournament. Just one win in the main and one win the consolation and you have four matches. That's just shy of 100 right there. Maybe he wasn't considering doubles matches as a real match.
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You don't even need 12 or 24 tournaments - just matches, matches and matches. I know that's tough to do depending upon where you live.
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Old 08-25-2012, 12:40 PM   #27
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You don't even need 12 or 24 tournaments - just matches, matches and matches. I know that's tough to do depending upon where you live.
Yea, pretty much all the local junior programs near me are drills in the morning and match play in the afternoon. Figuring 4 days a week for 8 weeks...easily an extra 50-60 matches every summer.
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Yea, pretty much all the local junior programs near me are drills in the morning and match play in the afternoon. Figuring 4 days a week for 8 weeks...easily an extra 50-60 matches every summer.
That's great - all that match play. You must be in South Florida.
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GA did you end up going to the seminar I was too busy and will go next session
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GA did you end up going to the seminar I was too busy and will go next session
It was AWESOME!!!!!
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It was AWESOME!!!!!
I wish I went , can you share some highlights of something you learned that you did not know about from before, you can email if you like .
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I wish I went , can you share some highlights of something you learned that you did not know about from before, you can email if you like .
Alot of information on how the mind works,leverage based forehand,and a ton of footwork information.At first i was like i didnt want him to share all this information with other coaches i wanted him to keep it only to share with just our girls. Now i see the big picture and understand what hes trying to do by educating other coaches in his system. It really was a great weekend. We had about 20 coaches there from all over the world. I think the one thing that made the weekend so great was the way Heath teaches you to deliver this information. I felt like i knew alot of the stuff already because i have been around him since June but now im soooooo much more confident in how i teach it. Thats the thing alot of coaches can learn alot from his website but when your taught how to apply it with your students its priceless!!! It is something that will definitely help you become a better coach. Hope to see you there in Dec!!!
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just read the article, interesting. I've known a few ACE kids/parents but never heard that name. I have sons at one of the other well known academies on the north side, gonna ask some of the coaches if they know of heath.

one thing is for sure. $250 an hour is way, way outta my range.
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just read the article, interesting. I've known a few ACE kids/parents but never heard that name. I have sons at one of the other well known academies on the north side, gonna ask some of the coaches if they know of heath.

one thing is for sure. $250 an hour is way, way outta my range.
Same boat for me. $250 is way out of my price range and the minimum of 4 hours for one trip means it would be a $1000 weekend. I just cannot not afford to pay that. I did notice some kids in the video that I have seen at tennis tournaments. I have also seen the Strive kids at tournaments. I did not know that was Heath Waters kids.
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Pro Tour did u sign up yet for Dec?
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I need your info so you can get discount, talked to Heath and he told me who referred me? I told him someone from TW boards please email me your contact. are you taking your girl? I asked Heath if I can take my son and to see if there are hitting players for him. He said there couple of good 11-12 year old girls. I thought of you.

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I need your info so you can get discount, talked to Heath and he told me who referred me? I told him someone from TW boards please email me your contact. are you taking your girl? I asked Heath if I can take my son and to see if there are hitting players for him. He said there couple of good 11-12 year old girls. I thought of you.
Thanks Pro Tour!!! Are you going to bring your son??? If so i will set him up with 4 or 5 great practice matches against some of the best 10 year olds in Georgia.We will be in class all day so your son can hang out with my daughter while we are in class.Its gonna be alot of fun.You are gonna love Heath!! Send me an e mail tzilla112701@gmail.com
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Thanks Pro Tour!!! Are you going to bring your son??? If so i will set him up with 4 or 5 great practice matches against some of the best 10 year olds in Georgia.We will be in class all day so your son can hang out with my daughter while we are in class.Its gonna be alot of fun.You are gonna love Heath!! Send me an e mail tzilla112701@gmail.com
did you get my email?
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did you get my email?
Yes i did. I thought i sent you back an email but i might not have. I have a new phone and im still learning how to use it.
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Yes i did. I thought i sent you back an email but i might not have. I have a new phone and im still learning how to use it.
yeah my new iphone does that I sent emials that some did not get, waiting to hear from you and see you in GA
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