Novak vs Aggassi

tennisbuck · 11-23-2012, 09:31 PM

Would Nole at his prime beat aggassi at his prime?

NadalAgassi · 11-23-2012, 10:08 PM

Honestly I think they would be evenly matched on all surfaces. Their order of surface preference is roughly the same. Slow hard courts/Australian hard courts especialy > Fast outdoor hard courts > Indoor or Carpet courts > Clay Courts > Grass Courts. Prime to prime it would be a real battle, but Djokovic has many more prime years than Agassi had already.

Ripster · 11-23-2012, 10:11 PM

My two favourite players. Both have very similar games, and are equally strong off both wings. Australian would be too tough to call as they both excel there. French I would actually give to Novak despite Agassi having bagged one (I expect Djokovic to have at least one before his career his over). Wimbledon I'd give to Andre and US Open again would be a toss up.

Man, these two are similar the more I think about it.

NadalAgassi · 11-23-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripster

My two favourite players. Both have very similar games, and are equally strong off both wings. Australian would be too tough to call as they both excel there. French I would actually give to Novak despite Agassi having bagged one (I expect Djokovic to have at least one before his career his over). Wimbledon I'd give to Andre and US Open again would be toss up.

Man, these two are similar the more I think about it.

They are similar but Agassi is still more explosive and potent off the ground, while Novak's court coverage and overall defense is in a way higher league than Agassi's. Other than that they are very similar though, especialy the way they time the ball, return serve, feed off pace, change direction, are so accurate.

Ripster · 11-23-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

They are similar but Agassi is still more explosive and potent off the ground, while Novak's court coverage and overall defense is in a way higher league than Agassi's. Other than that they are very similar though, especialy the way they time the ball, return serve, feed off pace, change direction, are so accurate.

Both are in the conversation for best returner of all time with Connors and maybe Hewitt as well. Agassi's return being more lethal but Djokovic of course is able to get more returns in play... which is a better asset is always debated.

tennis_pro · 11-24-2012, 08:38 AM

You mean Jiri Novak and someone who doesn't exist?

Gonzo_style · 11-24-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tennisbuck

Would Nole at his prime beat aggassi at his prime?

Djokovic would be favorite on clay, on the other surfaces i give them a equal chances

btw it's Agassi, not Aggassi

Federer20042006 · 11-24-2012, 12:25 PM

Djokovic's big advantage in movement would win out, I think.

DolgoSantoro · 11-24-2012, 01:56 PM

Are we talking 2011 Djokovic? Because I would bet on him over any incarnation of Andre. Their ground games and returns are comparable but Novak's movement would give him the edge and he was stronger mentally than Agassi.

Cup8489 · 11-24-2012, 08:07 PM

95 Agassi + Poly would give prime novak some serious trouble.

merwy · 11-25-2012, 09:00 AM

I think Djokovic would win most of the matches. Simply because you said "in his prime". Djokovic in his prime (2011) is simply unbelievably good, it seemed like he could let every ball hit the baseline if he wanted to, he did not make any unforced errors. Agassi in his prime is also great though, we shouldn't forget that he could still take sets off of prime Federer when he himself was 30+ years old.

DunlopDood · 11-26-2012, 09:12 PM

Agassi played nice tennis, beautiful clean backhand..Djokovic throws himself around the court like a rag doll. Effective game but just not attractive to watch. Agassi won Wimbledon on a grasscourt that might as well have been a sheet of ice...from the baseline... against some monster servers. Djokovic isn't even half the talent Agassi was. Agassi completed a career grand slam in an era of differing court speeds. Today's courts play slow compared to the 90's.

djokovic2008 · 11-26-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DunlopDood

Agassi played nice tennis, beautiful clean backhand..Djokovic throws himself around the court like a rag doll. Effective game but just not attractive to watch. Agassi won Wimbledon on a grasscourt that might as well have been a sheet of ice...from the baseline... against some monster servers. Djokovic isn't even half the talent Agassi was. Agassi completed a career grand slam in an era of differing court speeds. Today's courts play slow compared to the 90's.

Erh.. so djoker does not have this either? do you actually watch tennis other than youtube clips djokers backhand is as good if not better on the defense which gives him the edge.

dimeaxe · 11-27-2012, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DunlopDood

Agassi played nice tennis, beautiful clean backhand..Djokovic throws himself around the court like a rag doll. Effective game but just not attractive to watch. Agassi won Wimbledon on a grasscourt that might as well have been a sheet of ice...from the baseline... against some monster servers. Djokovic isn't even half the talent Agassi was. Agassi completed a career grand slam in an era of differing court speeds. Today's courts play slow compared to the 90's.

False, Djokovic is much bigger talent than Agassi ever was, I watched Agassi since he was very young, Novak would swept court with him in any conditions, any time.I do not even want to mention how much better tactician Novak is.

sonicare · 11-27-2012, 02:51 AM

At his best, djokovic would murder agassi on any court anywhere.

chippy17 · 11-27-2012, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicare

At his best, djokovic would murder agassi on any court anywhere.

at his best, Agassi would murder Djokovic on any court anywhere.

Charlzz · 11-27-2012, 06:42 AM

If we agree that Federer would beat Agassi (and it's true Agassi played him close from time to time), and Djokovic can beat Federer by essentially being a human backboard, I don't see that Agassi would have a chance against Djokovic.

Sampras used to say one problem with Agassi was his footspeed. He just didn't run that fast. Agassi used to try to rip a forehand to Sampras's forehand. Sampras would then hit a reverse forehand and it would come back with angle and pace. Djokovic can do that more easily than Sampras.

AnotherTennisProdigy · 11-27-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlzz

If we agree that Federer would beat Agassi (and it's true Agassi played him close from time to time), and Djokovic can beat Federer by essentially being a human backboard, I don't see that Agassi would have a chance against Djokovic.

Sampras used to say one problem with Agassi was his footspeed. He just didn't run that fast. Agassi used to try to rip a forehand to Sampras's forehand. Sampras would then hit a reverse forehand and it would come back with angle and pace. Djokovic can do that more easily than Sampras.

That's like saying Federer can beat Nadal
because
Federer can beat Djokovic who can beat Nadal.

Edit- Also, I think you're underestimating Sampras a little too much.

ductrung3993 · 11-27-2012, 09:44 AM

Fast court = Agassi's advantage
Slow court = Djok's advantage

CCNM · 11-27-2012, 01:36 PM

I would pay to watch this. Sounds like a good match-up

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Ripster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,160	My two favourite players. Both have very similar games, and are equally strong off both wings. Australian would be too tough to call as they both excel there. French I would actually give to Novak despite Agassi having bagged one (I expect Djokovic to have at least one before his career his over). Wimbledon I'd give to Andre and US Open again would be a toss up. Man, these two are similar the more I think about it. Last edited by Ripster : 11-23-2012 at 10:18 PM.

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DolgoSantoro Semi-Pro Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 405	Are we talking 2011 Djokovic? Because I would bet on him over any incarnation of Andre. Their ground games and returns are comparable but Novak's movement would give him the edge and he was stronger mentally than Agassi. __________________ Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on: Winston Churchill