What do you guys do on pulling main below the frame?

[nacolo]

Pls stop making fun of the old man...

[Irvin]

I beg your pardon, I resemble that remark. LOL

[fortun8son]

The Neos 1000 tensioner sits high ( no 360 rotation), so pulling over the throat is quite common.
A business card placed between the string and frame will prevent marring of the finish, but it's a PITA and not necessary for the most part unless you use rough strings at high tension.
You'll get more marks just bumping around in the bag.

[David 110]

BlxTennis, this youtube link shows a method to pull two main strings at the same time which avoids pulling strings over the frame on the throat end. It also results in more consistent tension (avoids the friction loss of pulling tension over the frame) and also eliminates the crank arm interference with the racquet handle.

This link has been posted several times, but I don't think anyone has tried it. Not sure why because the technique works good with crank machines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHaUrtUqS_M

[Lakers4Life]

Originally Posted by David 110

BlxTennis, this youtube link shows a method to pull two main strings at the same time which avoids pulling strings over the frame on the throat end. It also results in more consistent tension (avoids the friction loss of pulling tension over the frame) and also eliminates the crank arm interference with the racquet handle.

This link has been posted several times, but I don't think anyone has tried it. Not sure why because the technique works good with crank machines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHaUrtUqS_M

What the person in the video does not explain is the technique he uses to hold tension on the crank and re-tension again without a string clamp on the string. If you don't do it properly, you just lost tension and have to start over.

[BlxTennis]

Originally Posted by David 110

BlxTennis, this youtube link shows a method to pull two main strings at the same time which avoids pulling strings over the frame on the throat end. It also results in more consistent tension (avoids the friction loss of pulling tension over the frame) and also eliminates the crank arm interference with the racquet handle.

This link has been posted several times, but I don't think anyone has tried it. Not sure why because the technique works good with crank machines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHaUrtUqS_M

Thanks. This is interesting. I never thought of pulling 2 string at once but this may be something to consider just for the strings at the throat.

[Irvin]

Originally Posted by BlxTennis

Thanks. This is interesting. I never thought of pulling 2 string at once but this may be something to consider just for the strings at the throat.

If you do that you will have a higher tension on the string that is being pulled and lower tension of the other because of grommet friction. Pull only one string at a time.

[David 110]

Irvin, thanks for the response. Did you see that the video shows pulling on the tighter string to equalize tension on the lower tension string? The crank is then re-tensioned on the same two strings and the tighter string is then pulled to again equalize tension. After two or three of these pulls, the two string tensions will be very close to equal. The tension will be equal when the two strings sound about the same when plucking them like a guitar. Then clamp and move on to the next two strings.

I know this process sounds a little goofy, but it really does work to equalize tension on the center mains. It is easy to prove or disprove by stringing all of the center mains the old way (pulling over the frame) and then using the guitar plucking step and using sound to determine how equal the tension might be. You will find that the strings pulled over the frame (throat end) will be lower tension (friction loss) than the strings pulled at the racquet top (straight out of the grommet hole).

Then string the center mains using the new method and see how equal the strings tension sounds. If done properly, tension will be much more equal due to no friction loss over the frame and less clamping steps (minimizes pull back tension loss.)

Stringing time is about the same due to less clamping steps and the racquet does not have to be turned from top to throat end and back again. Also, no more interference with the crank arm hitting the racquet handle.

The mains outside the throat area are pulled one string at a time since these strings do not pass over the racquet throat.

Thanks for listening. Hope some of you stringers try it.

[Irvin]

David sounds good but sorry to say I am not believing a word of it. Let's talk about the pulling the string over or under the frame. If your gripper is below the stringbed go under, if it is above go over, and if they are on the same level it does not matter.

[Rjtennis]

Originally Posted by Irvin

I beg your pardon, I resemble that remark. LOL

You do great job with your videos and have helped a ton of people out!

[BlxTennis]

Originally Posted by Rjtennis

You do great job with your videos and have helped a ton of people out!

I agree. I learned a great deal from Irvin's videos.

[tennis_ocd]

Originally Posted by Lakers4Life

You have an anchor clamp. Then you pull tension on the other side and clamp at the head. Then you pull tension on the anchor main, to release the starting clamp, and move the anchor clamp next to the previously clamped main in a staggered position. WHY?

Moving the anchor main to previously clamped main into staggered position is the way I do it. Depending on the string, it may stretch too much to pull tension over two main lengths. (Crank machine.)

[Lakers4Life]

Originally Posted by tennis_ocd

Moving the anchor main to previously clamped main into staggered position is the way I do it. Depending on the string, it may stretch too much to pull tension over two main lengths. (Crank machine.)

It does not matter what machine you use, CP, DW or Crank. It's still a wasted movement. The point is you now have two clamps hold both sides of the first main away from the center. This is something one would expect with floating clamps, but with fixed clamps, it's not the same.

[Irvin]

Originally Posted by Lakers4Life

It does not matter what machine you use, CP, DW or Crank. It's still a wasted movement. The point is you now have two clamps hold both sides of the first main away from the center. This is something one would expect with floating clamps, but with fixed clamps, it's not the same.

Let me ask a silly question how would you tension the first left main in that video?

[Lakers4Life]

This video show the correct way to start mains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjQj04TC0-w
Same guy, different racket, Same technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9O4zO8OyEo
Same guy, different racket, Same technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU-6zaxFzm8
You don't need to watch the whole video, just the first 3 minutes or so. That's consistency folks.

[Irvin]

I though so wasted movement. Except for using a starting clamp he did exactly what I did.

[Tennusdude]

Irvin, I think you should patent that thing you do with the piece of string to accelerate weaving the crosses. Its actually fun to do, kinda like a magic trick.

[Irvin]

Originally Posted by Lakers4Life

This video show the correct way to start mains. ...
You don't need to watch the whole video, just the first 3 minutes or so. That's consistency folks.

Originally Posted by Irvin

I though so wasted movement. Except for using a starting clamp he did exactly what I did.

Bump still there?

[tennis_ocd]

Originally Posted by Lakers4Life

This video show the correct way to start mains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjQj04TC0-w
Same guy, different racket, Same technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9O4zO8OyEo
Same guy, different racket, Same technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU-6zaxFzm8
You don't need to watch the whole video, just the first 3 minutes or so. That's consistency folks.

Exact same method Irvin uses?! (The starting clamp simply keeps the first fixed clamp from dropping until machine tensioned.) All but poly likely stretches too much to pull two full main lengths.

[Irvin]

Not quite the same as what I did. This guy clamps 1LM as the anchor string then tensioned 1RM rotated the racket 180 tensioned 2RM rotated the racket and tensioned 1LM (I quit watching st that point.) According to what Laker4Life is saying he thinks it is more efficient movement to rotate the racket 180 before tensioning every string. I rather rotate the racket once for each two like numbered main strings.

Not saying either way is better than another. Some people tension 3 mains then 6 on the other side and finish the mains never getting more than 3 strings ahead on either side. Which by the way is the maximum # the USRSA says to go. Many times I like to get no more than one ahead. It's all preference.