The best backhand ever? - Page 95

rocketassist · 11-28-2012, 06:37 PM

Best single hander for me is Guga, best double hander is Safin, Agassi or Nalbandian

Seth · 11-28-2012, 06:48 PM

2HBH - Nalbandian
1HBH - Gasquet

hoodjem · 03-01-2013, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

Alright. I bow to the infinite wisdom of many advocates, and to Djoker's recent months of excellent play.

1. Rosewall
2. Laver
3. Connors
4. Kuerten
5. Borg
6. Nalbandian
7. Budge
8. Agassi
9. Edberg
10. Safin
11. Lacoste
12. Ashe
13. Lendl
14. Vilas
15. Kovacs
16. Rios
17. Mancini
18. Mecir
19. Costa
20. Tilden
21. Kodes
22. Stich
23. Wilander
24. Kafelnikov
25. Orantes
26. Korda
27. Murray
28. Almagro
29. Gasquet
30. Becker
31. Djokovic
32. Federer

Latest (as of May 2011) consensus list of BHGOATs.

Should Djokovic be moved up?

Resurrected for currency.

kiki · 03-01-2013, 05:59 AM

Orantes below Costa?

hoodjem · 03-01-2013, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kiki

Orantes below Costa?

Make a case.

President · 03-01-2013, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

Latest (as of May 2011) consensus list of BHGOATs.

Should Djokovic be moved up?

Resurrected for currency.

How the hell was he so low to begin with? His backhand has been one of the best of all time since 2007.

kiki · 03-01-2013, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

Make a case.

Costa is listed because I insisted alone but Manuel had greater versatility simce his BH could be both offensive and deffensive and more efects and angles
Just an opinion

hoodjem · 03-01-2013, 07:48 AM

1. Rosewall
2. Laver
3. Connors
4. Kuerten
5. Borg
6. Nalbandian
7. Budge
8. Agassi
9. Edberg
10. Djokovic
11. Safin
12. Lacoste
13. Ashe
14. Lendl
15. Vilas
16. Kovacs
17. Rios
18. Mancini
19. Mecir
20. Orantes
21. Murray
22. Tilden
23. Kodes
24. Stich
25. Wilander
26. Kafelnikov
27. Costa
28. Korda
29. Almagro
30. Gasquet
31. Becker
32. Wawrinka
33. Nüsslein

BobbyOne · 03-01-2013, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

1. Rosewall
2. Laver
3. Connors
4. Kuerten
5. Borg
6. Nalbandian
7. Budge
8. Agassi
9. Edberg
10. Safin
11. Djokovic
12. Lacoste
13. Ashe
14. Lendl
15. Vilas
16. Kovacs
17. Rios
18. Mancini
19. Mecir
20. Orantes
21. Murray
22. Tilden
23. Kodes
24. Stich
25. Wilander
26. Kafelnikov
27. Costa
28. Korda
29. Almagro
30. Gasquet
31. Becker
32. Federer

hoodjem, Where are Hoad and Nüsslein? I miss them in your excellent list.

TMF · 03-01-2013, 08:10 AM

^^
Of course Fed's BH isn't that good otherwise he wouldn't have won 17 slams. And if Lendl is as low(#32) as Federer, he could have won more than 8 slams. Haha

NatF · 03-01-2013, 08:56 AM

Djokovic should be higher than that. Shame there are no highlight reels to show off Rosewall and Laver's backhands. Neither would cope with Nadal's topspin like Djokovic does though I think.

zagor · 03-01-2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NatF

Djokovic should be higher than that. Shame there are no highlight reels to show off Rosewall and Laver's backhands. Neither would cope with Nadal's topspin like Djokovic does though I think.

Notice how this is supposedly a baseline bash era (where everyone is awful at the net and just slugs it from the backcourt) yet there is only one player from 2000s in the top 10, I guess players today fail at both baselining and netplay

To be honest, I think Agassi has a better BH (and by a good margin) than anyone on that list and yes Novak should be up there as well.

NatF · 03-01-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by zagor

Notice how this is supposedly a baseline bash era (where everyone is awful at the net and just slugs it from the backcourt) yet there is only one player from 2000s in the top 10, I guess players today fail at both baselining and netplay

To be honest, I think Agassi has a better BH (and by a good margin) than anyone on that list and yes Novak should be up there as well.

Players today are slower and hit with less pace too I'll have you know

Any matches you recommend I watch to see Agassi's backhand in full flight?

zagor · 03-01-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NatF

Players today are slower and hit with less pace too I'll have you know

Any matches you recommend I watch to see Agassi's backhand in full flight?

I don't know if any match specifically comes to mind, it's kinda like Novak, BH was his most reliable everyday weapon, it's hard to find a match in which his BH didn't work really well.

I'd say maybe his 1995 AO final against Sampras and 2000 AO final against Kafelnikov (just awesome hitting from the baseline in that match from both players).

TMF · 03-01-2013, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagor

Notice how this is supposedly a baseline bash era (where everyone is awful at the net and just slugs it from the backcourt) yet there is only one player from 2000s in the top 10, I guess players today fail at both baselining and netplay

To be honest, I think Agassi has a better BH (and by a good margin) than anyone on that list and yes Novak should be up there as well.

So true. Baseline specialists today you would expect many of their names at the top, much like you see so many best volley players from the past generations stack at the top and NONE for this era.

At least the list for the greatest servers of all time didn't omit the players from 2000s.

kiki · 03-01-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

1. Rosewall
2. Laver
3. Connors
4. Kuerten
5. Borg
6. Nalbandian
7. Budge
8. Agassi
9. Edberg
10. Safin
11. Djokovic
12. Lacoste
13. Ashe
14. Lendl
15. Vilas
16. Kovacs
17. Rios
18. Mancini
19. Mecir
20. Orantes
21. Murray
22. Tilden
23. Kodes
24. Stich
25. Wilander
26. Kafelnikov
27. Costa
28. Korda
29. Almagro
30. Gasquet
31. Becker
32. Federer

An improvement...now, just move Stefan a bit higher and the list is very good.
and good one recalling Mancini, a very underrated guy here, but a player would be comfortable with current baseline bashing.

spinovic · 03-01-2013, 10:41 AM

Stan the Man has a great one-handed backhand. He deserves some love.

hoodjem · 03-01-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TMF

^^
Of course Fed's BH isn't that good otherwise he wouldn't have won 17 slams. And if Lendl is as low(#32) as Federer, he could have won more than 8 slams. Haha

Because Sampras won 14 slams, he must have a great BH also.

Your logic reminds me of Swiss cheese, . . .
. . . or very old havarti.

NatF · 03-01-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

Because Sampras won 14 slams, he must have a great BH also.

Your logic reminds me of Swiss cheese, . . .
. . . or very old havarti.

Federer does have a great backhand though, it's not one of the best of all time though. But it's very good. Besides that winning 17 slams in a slower baseline era is abit different to winning 14 in largely fast conditions.

tudwell · 03-01-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hoodjem

1. Rosewall
2. Laver
3. Connors
4. Kuerten
5. Borg
6. Nalbandian
7. Budge
8. Agassi
9. Edberg
10. Djokovic
11. Safin
12. Lacoste
13. Ashe
14. Lendl
15. Vilas
16. Kovacs
17. Rios
18. Mancini
19. Mecir
20. Orantes
21. Murray
22. Tilden
23. Kodes
24. Stich
25. Wilander
26. Kafelnikov
27. Costa
28. Korda
29. Almagro
30. Gasquet
31. Becker
32. Wawrinka
33. Nüsslein

As a huge fan of Nalbandian, I think you have him way too high on this list. Having one of the greatest strokes of all time isn't just about filling highlight reels - it's about using the stroke as a weapon day-in and day-out and against the highest competition. Nalbandian can hit some absolutely incredible shots and generally has a very solid backhand, but it didn't win him much (compared to the greatest players of all time, that is). And he never had that week-in, week-out consistency in any of his strokes to put him up there in the top ten. I'd put him at number 12 at the [i]very[i/] best.

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hoodjem Legend Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bierlandt Posts: 9,964	1. Rosewall 2. Laver 3. Connors 4. Kuerten 5. Borg 6. Nalbandian 7. Budge 8. Agassi 9. Edberg 10. Djokovic 11. Safin 12. Lacoste 13. Ashe 14. Lendl 15. Vilas 16. Kovacs 17. Rios 18. Mancini 19. Mecir 20. Orantes 21. Murray 22. Tilden 23. Kodes 24. Stich 25. Wilander 26. Kafelnikov 27. Costa 28. Korda 29. Almagro 30. Gasquet 31. Becker 32. Wawrinka 33. Nüsslein __________________ The smart man thinks he knows a lot; the wise man is aware that he knows little. Last edited by hoodjem : 03-01-2013 at 02:31 PM.

03-01-2013, 08:10 AM	#1890
TMF G.O.A.T. Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 13,632	^^ Of course Fed's BH isn't that good otherwise he wouldn't have won 17 slams. And if Lendl is as low(#32) as Federer, he could have won more than 8 slams. Haha __________________ NadalAgassi: I think Serena's final slam tally will be something from 18-27. My best guess is 24 or 25 though; Nole(2010) will never win Wimbledon

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