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Old 11-26-2012, 08:56 AM   #161
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By circumference, it is exactly the same.

I use Dunlop 4. For Volkl I get grip 3, then put some padding on the two widest bevels to make an approximation to Dunlop 4.

Volkl 4 is uncomfortable for me. OK on forehand, but very awkward on backhand. Volkl 3 is fine on backhand, but not enough to grab on on the forehand. Hence the padding. Volkl 3 with padding is approximately equal to Dunlop 4. Beware that padding will add weight to the handle.

On a few Volkl racquets I particularly like, I do the complete surgery: I remove the pallets, put the light padding on the hairpin, pallets #3 on top, and put a Wilson or Dunlop buttcap. This gives me the "normal" grip, that's comfortable for me.

There are "Attiva" pallets which are supposedly more square, but I am not sure of that. I have one, and it seems to have the same rectangular proportions as their other pallets.

In the far-away past (80s), Volkl racquets had a regular grip. This oval shape is a relatively new trend. I am surprised they managed to stay in business for that long with such an annoyance to the consumers.
Excellent post. The Volkl people are fools for not changing the grip shape.

I use a bunch of Volkls, and the one thing keeping me from simply updating them with Volkls is the damn weird grip shape. It's bizarre and inexplicable.

I appreciate greatly the modification advice. Perhaps Volkl could use you as a consultant!
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:57 PM   #162
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So what string setup are y'all using with this stick? Sonic Pro/Syn gut is in the demo frame now, which is making a slight ping at impact. My frame and strings get here Wednesday. Thinking I'm going to string it up with B5E/N.Vy first. Maybe that will crisp it up a little bit.
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So what string setup are y'all using with this stick? Sonic Pro/Syn gut is in the demo frame now, which is making a slight ping at impact. My frame and strings get here Wednesday. Thinking I'm going to string it up with B5E/N.Vy first. Maybe that will crisp it up a little bit.
I plan to string it up with Dunlop Black Widow @65lbs as I expect the tension loss to be as much as 10lbs.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:02 AM   #164
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Cyclone 16 - I really like it although I will string a little tighter next time. I went with 54 and should be at 56 or 58...but it is cold in the evenings here and I did not want the racquet to feel like a board.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:07 AM   #165
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Cyclone 16 - I really like it although I will string a little tighter next time. I went with 54 and should be at 56 or 58...but it is cold in the evenings here and I did not want the racquet to feel like a board.
The c10 is a powerfull racquet imo. With the youtek prestige MP i was using 48lbs and i´m stringing the c10´s at 60lbs and is they still feel more comfortable than the prestiges.
Power is about the same, but the comfort and the size of the sweetspot are bigger even stringing them 12lbs higher...
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:26 AM   #166
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I will try 58 next time then. I don't need a ton of power, I just wanted to make sure I didn't get too stiff of a setup during winter - I play outdoors.

I had also never played Cyclone.

I made the mistake of trying Lux in a 6.1 last year and wasted that string job. Had to cut it out b/c it was way too stiff for the winter.

I can up to 60 if necessary. The 54 wasn't uncontrollable unless I went to hit a sharp angle.
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WOW! These are back up to $169.95 on TW now. Glad I jumped on the $75 deal when I did!

Hopefully they aren't going to be phased out!
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:14 PM   #168
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WOW! These are back up to $169.95 on TW now. Glad I jumped on the $75 deal when I did!

Hopefully they aren't going to be phased out!
Yes, the $75 offer was an outstanding opportunity. I can wait to receive my 3 new 2012 C10´s and the new Volkl bag, sadly, anything is in stock and i´ll have to wait at least 2 weeks more...
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Yes, the $75 offer was an outstanding opportunity. I can wait to receive my 3 new 2012 C10´s and the new Volkl bag, sadly, anything is in stock and i´ll have to wait at least 2 weeks more...
Wow, you got the 2012 version for $75 ? I wonder if that was a mistake on TW's part? I had recently bought a couple 2010 yellow models for about that price before they ran out. Great sticks.
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Wow, you got the 2012 version for $75 ? I wonder if that was a mistake on TW's part? I had recently bought a couple 2010 yellow models for about that price before they ran out. Great sticks.
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Whoever bought it for USD75 is very lucky. I saw the offer and the next day when I ordered it the price was USD159.99 Still, I did save USD10 when the price went up to USD 169.99 the very next day
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Wow, you got the 2012 version for $75 ? I wonder if that was a mistake on TW's part? I had recently bought a couple 2010 yellow models for about that price before they ran out. Great sticks.
awasome deal, tw offered a super sale price on the C10 on black friday, so i ordered 3 and the volkl black 12 bag.
When i ordered them (saturday morning) the offer was still avaliabe but the 5/8 grips stock was gone. Anyway, TW is receiving new stock from volkl on 12/6 and they will ship my order...
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:14 AM   #172
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Yup! I got one at the $75 mark. Wish I had grabbed a couple more It was a terrific deal!
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:04 AM   #173
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Tw shipped my c10's yesterday, i hope UPS service to be as fast as they say...
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:09 PM   #174
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I just got 2 of the 2010 yellow frames. Even though many prefer the black color, I am really enjoying the yellow with tourna grip blue off-setting it. I am also enjoying the weight and the balance of the frames. I am coming off a lighter frame, the PK BA 93. I found that I had too many off-center shots and wanted to go with at least a 98" head. I had some Redondo MPs but I found them sluggish to get around. I am pleasantly surprised with the C10 Pro. If I was to compare to the Redondo MP which has similar specs (i know string pattern is different, but frame specs) then I would say that the C10 pro has a balance which enables you to swing with a modern style. It is easier to swing up through the ball, or brush up the back of the ball, depending on your swing style - the racket seems to want to do that. The redondo seems to want to go forward more than up - probably suiting a flatter swing style. Not sure if that makes sense.

I am playing around with strings which I will write more about in the string section. I am experimenting with polys right now as i want the benefit of the spin they can offer. I am cautious of my arm though. I tried Lux M2 (130 and 125) which I think doesn't work in this frame. Too springy and it lost tension quickly. I have one bed with Solinco Revolution/True Feel hybrid at 52/54 and Tecnifibre Pro Red Code 16/Gosen OG 16 at 50/54. Haven't tried the RC/Gosen yet - but found the solinco hybrid a bit soft. I will try Revolution next with OG Micro to see if that makes it feel more crisp.

I hope I have found my lasting sticks. I believe after experimenting a lot (Head prestige, dunlop 4D 200 Tour, redondo, BA 93) that the racket is a vehicle for the strings. The frame is about balance and weight and ploughthrough and the string gives the playability and trajectory. I know there is more to it than that for many, but that is where I have got to in my racket search so far. I think the specs of the C10 pro could give me my ultimate racket, when combined with the right strings, grips and maybe lead weighting (top of grip and/or hoop).

I am debating the leather grip or synthetic right now. I have 2 frames so I will take time to test them out and see. Probably won't make a decision till I have settled on a string choice.

Hope I can join the club!
Two stand out observations there for me.

You're aware that many consider the C10 to be distinctly not a 'modern style' racket? (I know. I know... )

Really like the second statement. Most enlightened thing I've read on TT all day actually.

Do post up your experiences/thoughts set ups-wise etc as you go on.
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I love the weight and balance of the C10 pro. My 2010 versions both weigh around 12.4 oz strung. No need for lead tape. They have plenty of heft, yet seem easy to get around on ground strokes and serves. There is a good reason why this frame is still around for as many years as it has been.
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The c10 pro is a lot like the POG OS with smaller head size to me.
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Received the C10Pro 2012 the day before yesterday via UPS. Looks beautiful and feels great in my hands but impatiently waiting for my order for Black Widow 18g. Plan to string it at 60lbs using 'round the world ' method.

Weighed the unstrung stick at 317g using a digital weighing machine but the specs stated was 330g (11.6oz). Hmm... I wonder what has happened to the 13g difference.

The stated balance unstrung was stated at 31cm but my balance board showed it as 31.25cm.

Do you guys have any similar readings ?

Thank you.
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13grs is a lot for the volkl standards...
I hope the 3 c10 i've ordered are close together or at least only a bit lighter, but not heavier because i've to add leather grips...
I'll receive the tw shipment tomorrow if i'm lucky
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Received the C10Pro 2012 the day before yesterday via UPS. Looks beautiful and feels great in my hands but impatiently waiting for my order for Black Widow 18g. Plan to string it at 60lbs using 'round the world ' method.

Weighed the unstrung stick at 317g using a digital weighing machine but the specs stated was 330g (11.6oz). Hmm... I wonder what has happened to the 13g difference.

The stated balance unstrung was stated at 31cm but my balance board showed it as 31.25cm.

Do you guys have any similar readings ?

Thank you.
Just strung it at 60lb with Black Widow 18g. Final specs is 331g strung and balance is 312mm ie 9.76pt HL compared with the advertised 8pt HL and strung weight of 346g.

Notwithstanding the significant difference in strung wt and balance, it still felt good in my hands and will hit with it tomorrow morning.

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If i get 3 with the same lighter specs, it will be great....great customization plataform..
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