Armstrong drops fight against doping charges - Page 35

ninman · 11-12-2012, 06:31 PM

From what I've heard though, it wasn't just Lance, but about 95% of the racers. So why don't those guys get DQ'd too? Maybe we can just say that there was no Tour from 1999-2005?

JoelDali · 11-12-2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ninman

From what I've heard though, it wasn't just Lance, but about 95% of the racers. So why don't those guys get DQ'd too? Maybe we can just say that there was no Tour from 1999-2005?

Its all Lance's fault.

LoL.

Hypocrisy.

Bartelby · 11-12-2012, 06:54 PM

There was a tour between those years, but there is now no winner.

Armstrong was the leader of the biggest drug taking ring on the tour.

Its not surprising that he became the target for anti-drug authorities.

vive le beau jeu ! · 12-02-2012, 09:28 AM

Armstrong named Sports Illustrated ‘Anti-Sportsman of the Year’

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13...-the-Year.aspx

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Lance Armstrong may have lost his seven Tour de France titles, but he’s back to winning ways after being awarded the title of Anti-Sportsman of the Year by Sports Illustrated magazine.

from: http://road.cc/content/news/71456-la...man-year-award

rommil · 12-02-2012, 10:03 AM

He has lost the balls to fight

Bobby Jr · 01-06-2013, 01:56 PM

Just thought I'd back this truck up and revisit this topic... Esp regarding the topic of Armstrong's massive PR machine which swiped and character assassinated basically anyone who dared accuse him of impropriety.

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Originally Posted by NamRanger

....There was no PR machine at all...

Read this article.. from paragraph 4 on this page (page 2). An sick insight into how Armstrong approached any potential criticism.

By comparison, the Michael J. Fox Foundation had similar revenue to Livestrong in 2008 - $40 million - and gave away $33 million of that in grants for Parkinson's research. That PR machine has done a good job huh!

adventure · 01-06-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PrimeChoice

The WORLD knows he cheated.
Still the fastest.

Uh, no. Lance was a middle of the pack slug for years. Obviously you know nothing about cycling.

adventure · 01-06-2013, 02:20 PM

Lance is now going to admit to doping. All of his idiot fanboys will still claim he didn't dope. SMH

maleyoyo · 01-09-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by adventure

Lance is now going to admit to doping. All of his idiot fanboys will still claim he didn't dope. SMH

Let me guess what Lance will say.
I’m so sorry for lying and cheating to your faces all these years. I made a mistake and deserve a second chance. It’s just business nothing personal.
Despite what I’ve done I gave you something to cheer for and feel good about yourself. Didn’t I? I gave my fans and the cancer patients a ride of their life.
But hey, can we get past that now? I’m still a great sportsman and your hero, remember? Don’t forget to give your support and send more money my way. I’ll find different ways to be your hero again.

Sincerely Yours,

L. A.

r2473 · 01-09-2013, 11:10 AM

We love our hero's........but love to hate our fallen hero's even more. Build 'em up and tear 'em down.

Wonder what will happen when Alabama gets put on probation (gasp).

Or if the NFL (or ATP, etc) decides to crack down on "performance enhancing drugs" like cycling or MLB did.

Anyway, it gives everyone something to talk about (see "Gerede" and Heidegger).

volleygirl · 01-09-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by r2473

We love our hero's........but love to hate our fallen hero's even more. Build 'em up and tear 'em down. .

I disagree. We love our heros and dont want them to be proven as frauds. You think sportsfans dont still love Walter Payton, Dick Butkus, Earl Campbell, Joe Montana, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Mickey Mantle, Sandy Koufax and so many others. We dont like tearing them down unless they show that our rooting for them and idolizing them was a total sham.

jerriy · 01-09-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by adventure

Uh, no. Lance was a middle of the pack slug for years..

The ones ahead of the pack are juicers anyway

JoelDali · 01-09-2013, 01:53 PM

Lance is the only pro bike rider that doped. He should be punished.

Bartelby · 01-09-2013, 09:46 PM

Tygart on Armstrong:

'Tygart said Armstrong had been tipped off by Swiss drug testing laboratory director Martial Saugy about how to beat the erythropoietin (EPO) test in 2002 after one of Armstrong's samples from the 2001 Tour of Switzerland was described as "suspicious."

"Saugy sat down next to me and said, 'Travis, in fact, there were samples from Lance Armstrong that indicated EPO use'," Tygart told CBS television's 60 Minutes Sports.

"As far as we are aware, (it is) totally inappropriate to bring in an athlete who had a suspicious test and explain to them how the test works."

The Swiss lab chief also told Tygart that the International Cycling Union (UCI) had asked him to hold an unprecedented meeting with Armstrong and his former manager Johan Bruyneel to explain the EPO testing process.

Tygart said six of Armstrong's samples taken during his first Tour de France win in 1999 eventually tested positive.

The samples were originally reported as negative but they were re-tested in 2005.

"All six were flaming positive," Tygart said.'

adventure · 01-09-2013, 09:57 PM

This hero talk reflects the massive level of brainwashing that occurs 24/7 around the globe. It seriously saddens me. Wake the f up, zombies.

maggmaster · 01-10-2013, 05:39 AM

Everyone is blind if they think this is an isolated incident. The Balco issue from a few years back had a client list that was hundreds of pages long may of whom were professional athletes. Most professional sports are doped, cycling is very bad. We need to find a way to limit the impact or to make it fair. Until we do, the cheaters will always be one step ahead of the testers. Personally I don't care what people take as long as the option is available to everyone competing and nothing is given to minors.

JoelDali · 01-10-2013, 06:20 AM

Sports are clean. It's about glory and GOATing.

It's not about money or endorsements....Lance was strong in a weak era.

adventure · 01-13-2013, 02:26 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mor...mit-doping.ap/

Lance is going to admit to doping in an interview with Oprah Winfrey. SMH

Bartelby · 01-13-2013, 02:32 AM

Unfortunately he is bound to make excuses for himself, which is both normal and necessary, but this will simply lead to more criticism.

Bobby Jr · 01-13-2013, 05:26 AM

I can't see him admitting it... Appearances on Oprah are notoriously interviewee friendly to the point they will even pre-vet questions that'll be asked. I think we might see Armstrong using his interview as a re-confirmation of his steadfast denials. The legal liabilities he would open himself up for if he admitted it all would apparently be significant.

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Bobby Jr Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,537	I can't see him admitting it... Appearances on Oprah are notoriously interviewee friendly to the point they will even pre-vet questions that'll be asked. I think we might see Armstrong using his interview as a re-confirmation of his steadfast denials. The legal liabilities he would open himself up for if he admitted it all would apparently be significant. __________________ Original Pro Staff 85, leaded to 370g, hybrid poly/syn gut set-up, 48-52-ish lbs.