Will Ralph win AO 2013?

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

I dont know how Nadal will do at the AO but I agree on one thing. If he reaches Federer he wins that encounter for sure.

Straight sets this time?

[NoZak Djokovic]

No chance .

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Why do some still insist on calling him Ralph?

It seems only haters do it, so they must think it's offensive somehow?

Originally Posted by NatF

How long did it take him to find his form after 09? I doubt he's going to come back much faster than that...

It took him a long time, but I understand he was not fine and could barely stand to practice until he had the PRP treatment, so I don't know if it'd be the same this time.

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

It seems only haters do it, so they must think it's offensive somehow?



It took him a long time, but I understand he was not fine and could barely stand to practice until he had the PRP treatment, so I don't know if it'd be the same this time.

I don't get the Ralph thing either

I know nadal fans disagree but I thought he was fairly good when he returned in 2009, had consistant results in post Wimbledon period which he didn't always, but got unlucky he had several matches with Djokovic, Davydenko and Delpo on HC. I think he needed to wait til clay season to get his confidence again though. If he can do anywher near that good (making semis and finals of events) that will be a good sign.

[monfed]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Why do some still insist on calling him Ralph?

I just call him Ralph to express my undying affection for him,I guess.

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Nadal ain't Fed because Fed isn't a colassal mug like Nadal is,so Fed fans have a whole lot more to be happy about than Nadal fans do. Fed is also the GOAT,and one of the most talented players to ever play the game. Nadal,otoh,is not. Fed fans should definitely cut their guy some slack considering all that he has achieved. If Nadal lands in Fed's half of the draw and by some miracle makes it to Fed,he will lose. Fed fans need to get real with this Fed can't beat Nadal stuff.


And yes my expectations of Nadal are as low as low gets.


Yes he does. Especially on hardcourts.

Nadal? A mug? Hardly.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

Nadal? A mug? Hardly.

Yep. You don't agree?

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Yep. You don't agree?

No, because he's not a mug. He has won a great deal on tour and is the best French Open player in the history of the open era. He's clearly one of the best, even if I am a "fan" of Federer, I can admit he's an extremely talented player.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

No, because he's not a mug. He has won a great deal on tour and is the best French Open player in the history of the open era. He's clearly one of the best, even if I am a "fan" of Federer, I can admit he's an extremely talented player.

I think Nadal is more of a talented athlete than a talented tennis player. Player's like Fed and Djesus are talented at tennis more than Nadal is.

[3fees]

Ralph is out of practice,,will tough to get to the finals..

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

He still goes long stretches of time without winning anything. Why does a player ranked as high as he is go a year or more without a title?

Nadal is different from other players in that he goes a while without a title at times, but when he does win, he usually picks up several. Most years in a 3 month span he wns at least 2 masters a slam and a 500. Some years he's added to that. Serious question, would you rather all these years he doesn't dominate clay but picks up one title every 2 months? And not even arguing about him dominating clay now or 2011 or whatever, but in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010 and 2012 he won RG and at least 2 of the clay masters which is domination.

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Nadal ain't Fed because Fed isn't a colassal mug like Nadal is,so Fed fans have a whole lot more to be happy about than Nadal fans do. Fed is also the GOAT,and one of the most talented players to ever play the game. Nadal,otoh,is not. Fed fans should definitely cut their guy some slack considering all that he has achieved. If Nadal lands in Fed's half of the draw and by some miracle makes it to Fed,he will lose. Fed fans need to get real with this Fed can't beat Nadal stuff.

Lol this is priceless. Last time Federer beat Nadal in a slam? 2007. Last time Nadal beat Djokovic in a slam? 6 months ago yet you won't stop the Nadal won't beat Djokovic crap. I have to hand it to you, sometimes you are a pretty good comedian.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Towser83

Nadal is different from other players in that he goes a while without a title at times, but when he does win, he usually picks up several. Most years in a 3 month span he wns at least 2 masters a slam and a 500. Some years he's added to that. Serious question, would you rather all these years he doesn't dominate clay but picks up one title every 2 months? And not even arguing about him dominating clay now or 2011 or whatever, but in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010 and 2012 he won RG and at least 2 of the clay masters which is domination.



Lol this is priceless. Last time Federer beat Nadal in a slam? 2007. Last time Nadal beat Djokovic in a slam? 6 months ago yet you won't stop the Nadal won't beat Djokovic crap. I have to hand it to you, sometimes you are a pretty good comedian.

Going a year+ in between titles for a guy ranked as high as he is is too long. That's what I was getting at.


So? And the last time Fed beat Nadal on outdoor hardcourt was in 2005 but he managed to do it this year didn't he? Fed ALWAYS has a chance against Nadal no matter where they play. Why do Fed fans write him off so quickly like this?

[abmk]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Going a year+ in between titles for a guy ranked as high as he is is too long. That's what I was getting at.


So? And the last time Fed beat Nadal on outdoor hardcourt was in 2005 but he managed to do it this year didn't he? Fed ALWAYS has a chance against Nadal no matter where they play. Why do Fed fans write him off so quickly like this?

Ah, the delicious irony in this post

[zagor]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

No, because he's not a mug. He has won a great deal on tour and is the best French Open player in the history of the open era. He's clearly one of the best, even if I am a "fan" of Federer, I can admit he's an extremely talented player.

Nadal is indeed very talented but you're the farthest thing possible from being a Fed fan.

Furthermore it's not "hard" for you to admit Nadal's very talented given the fact that he's your hero/idol, though of course you don't "love" Nadal as nearly as much as you hate Fed (with whom you're obsessed basically).

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Going a year+ in between titles for a guy ranked as high as he is is too long. That's what I was getting at.

Nobody is going to look back and say "Nadal didn't win a title for five months, thus isn't the true force behind clay". They're going to look back and say "wow, Nadal has 27 Masters and has won Roland Garros a record 10 times! This guy is the clay GOAT for sure". It doesn't matter that he goes long stretches without winning, as long as wins them.

Originally Posted by Clarky21

So? And the last time Fed beat Nadal on outdoor hardcourt was in 2005 but he managed to do it this year didn't he? Fed ALWAYS has a chance against Nadal no matter where they play. Why do Fed fans write him off so quickly like this?

That's true, Federer does always have a chance - outside slams. Depending on how Nadal is when he gets back, Federer may have a chance against Nadal in slams, too.

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Going a year+ in between titles for a guy ranked as high as he is is too long. That's what I was getting at.


So? And the last time Fed beat Nadal on outdoor hardcourt was in 2005 but he managed to do it this year didn't he? Fed ALWAYS has a chance against Nadal no matter where they play. Why do Fed fans write him off so quickly like this?

And my point is he makes up for it by winning titles in blocks. There's only one time he went a year without a title (in fact just under a year) which was between Rome 2009 and MC 2010. He has some other pretty long gaps, true. between RG 2006 and IW 2007 was about 9 months. Between Stuttgart 2007 and MC 2008 was about 9 months too, but then he won 8 tournaments in a short time.

The thing about outdoor hardcourts, I don't even give that much importantace. The difference between 5 sets and 3 is much bigger. I mean they played at the AO a few months before indian wells and surprise surprise Nadal won. Federer will only beat Nadal in a slam as either some sort of one off incrdible performance, or when Nadal's decline has matched Federer's. And Nadal being out injured means if he'splaying that bad, he won't even meet Federer. Federer is still a great player but the odds on him coming out consistantly good vs his main rivals in a best of 5 and lasting, are dropping. He can play good matches but not consistantly at the level needed to win slams, if he gets one next year I will be very pleased because it's still not a given. Even at the WTF, as good as Djokovic played, Federer had both sets under control and he sliped slightly.He should have won at least one of them but he couldn't keep up with Novak, which he could have a few years back.

lol writing Fed off quickly? You're F***ing with us now come on. You were on about Nadal not beating djokovic in a slam for almost 2 years (which was an inflated number since for a large part of that they hadn't even played) yet Fed not beating Nadal in nearly 6 years is too soon? Fed can beat Nadal in best of 3, best of 5 however does not look good.

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by zagor

Nadal is indeed very talented but you're the farthest thing possible from being a Fed fan.

Furthermore it's not "hard" for you to admit Nadal's very talented given the fact that he's your hero/idol, though of course you don't "love" Nadal as nearly as much as you hate Fed (with whom you're obsessed basically).

You obviously don't read the entirety of my posts. I am a fan of all the top four, but prefer Federer over the others.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by abmk

Ah, the delicious irony in this post

What? Because I think Fed always has a shot even though his fans are quick to write him off?

[zagor]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

You obviously don't read the entirety of my posts. I am a fan of all the top four, but prefer Federer over the others.

No, you absolutely don't, sell that crap to someone else.

[Rocky89]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

I think Nadal is more of a talented athlete than a talented tennis player. Player's like Fed and Djesus are talented at tennis more than Nadal is.

Surly You don't get to 11 slams just by being a talented athlete. Nadal is more than just a physical player, he does have tennis skills as well you know, despite what trolls say.