• Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Blog
  • Blogs
  • FAQ

Go Back   Talk Tennis > Miscellaneous > Health & Fitness
Reload this Page Ibuprofen: Benefits and Risks
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 5 of 5 « First < 34 5
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-29-2012, 08:00 AM   #81
sureshs
Talk Tennis Guru
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 25,869
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Timbo's hopeless slice View Post
am I correct in thinking paracetamol is not 'over-the-counter' in the states?

or is it chemically similar to Tylenol?

I know I could google it, but I was wondering what the forum thought?

'The truth? I can't handle the truth!'
Tylenol is acetominophen.

Paracetamol (one of the brand names is Crocin) is popular outside the US.
sureshs is offline   Reply With Quote
sureshs
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by sureshs
Old 11-29-2012, 11:37 AM   #82
Pacific lefty
Rookie
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Europe
Posts: 258
Default Nurofen/Keral, other NSAIDS

Prior to and after having SAD surgery for my shoulder, I was constantly taking Nurofen, and then my GP prescribed another NSAID called Keral. I really do not know if this is at all connected, and maybe I am making a random connection but here is the story. Last summer (and I live in Ireland) I experienced the worst hay fever I had ever had. When my shoulder was better and I was allowed to take up running again I had a couple horrendous experiences of being completely out of breath, struggling to get in air, and not because I was out of shape. It even started to happen when I was playing singles, or in doubles, under pressure. I went back to GP and he said it was exercise induced asthma. He prescribed salbuterol in an inhaler to take just before exercise. Strangely enough, I took out the notes to the "Keral" (dexketoprofin) and it immediately said it was contraindicated in those who had hay fever or asthma. I haven't taken any sort of NSAID for months now, yet I haven't tried exercising without using the inhaler first, as I am wary of getting that suffocated feeling again. I am just wondering if there is a strong link between asthma and NSAIDS as I never ever had that happen before. Maybe its just the horrible climate where I am living!!!
Pacific lefty is offline   Reply With Quote
Pacific lefty
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Pacific lefty
Old 11-29-2012, 01:22 PM   #83
rufus_smith
Semi-Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 571
Default

A small percentage of people with asthma are sensitive to aspirin and NSAIDS. It exacerbates their symptoms.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11665870.

In my humble opinion, for most people. the benefits of ibuprofen still far outweigh the risks.
rufus_smith is offline   Reply With Quote
rufus_smith
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by rufus_smith
Old 11-29-2012, 02:25 PM   #84
Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall Of Fame
 
Timbo's hopeless slice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,103
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sureshs View Post
Tylenol is acetominophen.

Paracetamol (one of the brand names is Crocin) is popular outside the US.
ok, cheers

ye, 'Panadol' is very popular here (Australia), almost never see Tylenol.
__________________
5.0 all courter. Betting the house on black 7 spades.. (Volkl X-7 310 WITH CYCLONE @ 55)
"Tennis isn't easy" - Corners
Timbo's hopeless slice is offline   Reply With Quote
Timbo's hopeless slice
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Timbo's hopeless slice
Old 11-30-2012, 06:44 AM   #85
SystemicAnomaly
Legend
 
SystemicAnomaly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Stuck in the Matrix somewhere in Santa Clara CA
Posts: 7,738
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ollinger View Post
the value of taking certain nutrients in supplement form is coming into question... turmeric is a substance ayurvedic practitioners tell me is only useful when cooked, so its value as an uncooked supplement pill is uncertain, much like lycopene.
I have been putting turmeric (haldi) powder mixed with a few other spices into capsules for several years now. In the past couple of years I have started to "cook" the powder a bit before encapsulating. I add some black pepper to, hopefully, improve the bioavailablity of the turmeric. Turmeric accounts for about 1/2 of my mix -- I also include ginger (root), tulsi (holy basil), and rosemary.

To further improve the bioavailability of the turmeric capsules, I take it with lecithin and some other fats (such as olive oil, coconut oil, high-oleic safflower oil or canola oil). I usually wash it down with green tea. Supposedly green tea with turmeric has a synergistic effect.

I also add turmeric to my cooking.

I have come across some conflicting reports about lycopene. It has generally accepted that we get more from cooked tomatoes than from raw. However, a WebMD page indicates that, "The lycopene in supplements is about as easy for the body to use as lycopene found in food.".

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...tName=LYCOPENE

I also came across a study from 2002 titled, "Synthetic and tomato-based lycopene have identical bioavailability in humans".

http://www.ff.ul.pt/FCT/PTDC/SAU-BEB/103714/2008/8.pdf
SystemicAnomaly is offline   Reply With Quote
SystemicAnomaly
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by SystemicAnomaly
Old 11-30-2012, 07:01 AM   #86
El Diablo
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,091
Default

^^ "bioavailability" refers to how efficiently it is absorbed from the GI tract. It isn't a reflection of how the body utilizes it.
__________________
"I may be synthetic but I'm not stupid"
Bishop, in "Aliens"
El Diablo is offline   Reply With Quote
El Diablo
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by El Diablo
Old 12-01-2012, 02:13 AM   #87
SystemicAnomaly
Legend
 
SystemicAnomaly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Stuck in the Matrix somewhere in Santa Clara CA
Posts: 7,738
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by El Diablo View Post
"bioavailability" refers to how efficiently it is absorbed from the GI tract. It isn't a reflection of how the body utilizes it.
While bioavailablity is related to to absorption, it is not quite that simple. The term, bioavailablity, is defined/used somewhat differently in the nutritional sciences than it is for pharmacology. For pharmacology, bioavailablity refers to the degree of activity or amount of an administered drug that becomes available for activity in the target tissue. For nutrients, including nutritional supplements, the concept of bioavailablity appears to be less clearly defined.

http://jn.nutrition.org/content/131/4/1349S.full
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/131/4/1344S.abstract
.

Last edited by SystemicAnomaly : 12-05-2012 at 10:53 PM.
SystemicAnomaly is offline   Reply With Quote
SystemicAnomaly
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by SystemicAnomaly
Old 12-05-2012, 07:41 PM   #88
Avles
Semi-Pro
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Peak of Good Living
Posts: 644
Default

ibuprofen + exercise = intestinal leakage?

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/1...ibuprofen-use/
Avles is offline   Reply With Quote
Avles
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Avles
Old 12-05-2012, 07:53 PM   #89
ollinger
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,418
Default

^^ I've said before in this forum that taking ibuprofen before exercise is a risk to your health, my primary concern being that both the exercise and the ibuprofen tend to raise blood pressure, so the combination could raise it to levels that can be harmful. These authors present another risk, intestinal leakage. A third is stomach ulceration and hemorrhage. All in all, it's just dumb to use ibuprofen while you exert yourself.
__________________
Angell 105
WC Silverstring
ollinger is offline   Reply With Quote
ollinger
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by ollinger
Old 12-06-2012, 01:39 PM   #90
bhupaes
Professional
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 859
Default

In the NYtimes article, there was mention of taking 400mg of Ibuprofen at night. Assuming the subject goes to sleep soon afterwards, will it have any deleterious effect on the intestine or other organs? Also, will it have any effect on exercise performed the next day? Seems pretty useless to me... unless I'm missing something here.
bhupaes is offline   Reply With Quote
bhupaes
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by bhupaes
Old 12-06-2012, 02:11 PM   #91
rufus_smith
Semi-Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 571
Default

That finding refers to endurance athletes who were continuously bicycling for an hour. It is unclear that it would apply to recreational tennis which is more anaerobic, where the heart rate has a chance to rest every ten minutes or so, and where the large uppper leg muscles are much less stressed. In most tennis matches players aren't huffing and puffing like they would in bicycling or endurance running. In other words there is more opportunity for blood flow to reach the intestines when playing tennis than when performing pure endurance exercise, so intestinal leakage might be minimal. I doubt that recreational doubles players would experience it at all. It would be useful to test tennis players to see.
rufus_smith is offline   Reply With Quote
rufus_smith
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by rufus_smith
Old 12-06-2012, 04:41 PM   #92
SystemicAnomaly
Legend
 
SystemicAnomaly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Stuck in the Matrix somewhere in Santa Clara CA
Posts: 7,738
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avles View Post
ibuprofen + exercise = intestinal leakage?

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/1...ibuprofen-use/
Quote:
Originally Posted by ollinger View Post
^^ I've said before in this forum that taking ibuprofen before exercise is a risk to your health, my primary concern being that both the exercise and the ibuprofen tend to raise blood pressure, so the combination could raise it to levels that can be harmful. These authors present another risk, intestinal leakage. A third is stomach ulceration and hemorrhage. All in all, it's just dumb to use ibuprofen while you exert yourself.
Will aspirin, naproxen or other NSAIDs prior to exercise have similar side effects or lesser effects that IB?
SystemicAnomaly is offline   Reply With Quote
SystemicAnomaly
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by SystemicAnomaly
Reply
Page 5 of 5 « First < 34 5

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »


Go Back   Talk Tennis > Miscellaneous > Health & Fitness
Reload this Page Ibuprofen: Benefits and Risks

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Hybrid Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode
Threaded Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:22 PM.

Talk Tennis :: Powered By Tennis Warehouse - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2006 - Tennis Warehouse