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Old 12-06-2012, 05:49 AM   #41
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:09 AM   #42
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ProTour, what strings do you like for the kids at 8-9 years old? Thinking long term arm safety.
TCF try the 17g x-one biphase it is perfect for your little one. How is she doing? Me and you still cool right?
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ProTour, what strings do you like for the kids at 8-9 years old? Thinking long term arm safety.
Ga is correct, 17 or even 18g tecnifibre biphase is good or just plain old tecnifibre NRG, you can go down to 50lbs.

If you really have to go poly then zyex monogut from ashaway. The guy who invented it came to grand slam stringers forum and gave us some samples to try out, this stuff is like gum, it is very elastic and arm friendly and has the characteristic of poly because it is polymer, it is the softest POLY in the planet. http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Asha...YEXMONO16.html

when my kid was 8-9 I used gosen OG sheep 18g, it is the best synthetic gut on the planet. just plain jane 18g, nothing like it, string it low tension and she should be fine,
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Ga is correct, 17 or even 18g tecnifibre biphase is good or just plain old tecnifibre NRG, you can go down to 50lbs.

If you really have to go poly then zyex monogut from ashaway. The guy who invented it came to grand slam stringers forum and gave us some samples to try out, this stuff is like gum, it is very elastic and arm friendly and has the characteristic of poly because it is polymer, it is the softest POLY in the planet. http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Asha...YEXMONO16.html

when my kid was 8-9 I used gosen OG sheep 18g, it is the best synthetic gut on the planet. just plain jane 18g, nothing like it, string it low tension and she should be fine,
pro-tour THANKS for doing that. I look forward to meeting you and your son. You are gonna LOVE it!!!! Heath is a GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!
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If you need something a little more durable NXT Tour is good. Biophase hits and feels great but my 10 year old went ghroug it too fast.
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Have used both, both have similar durability. Would however, switch to 16G instead of using the 17G x-phase. Wil get similiar play but longer life
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Gatennis....by the way, the little MO is in town, the kids are practicing all over the place. We hit next to a bunch of them this morning.

Just amazing to watch these intense coaches putting kids through drills with pancake serves and bunting forehands. Strange phenomenon that rushing into tournaments once the kid can clear the net.
I know i did the same thing. Im still doing it today. I know my daughter isnt ready to compete but im still letting her play tournaments as long as shes doing it right.She doesnt have any technical flaws its just she just doesnt know how to compete yet. Im not worried about wins or losses now even though it drives me crazy to watch her lose to some of these girls she loses to. I SEE THE BIG PICTURE AND WHAT IVE SEEN AND WHAT I KNOW IS THAT WHEN SHES 14 SHE WONT BE LOSING TO ANY OF THESE GIRLS THAT I HAVE SEEN PLAY.The ONLY reason she loses now is that it really doesnt matter to her right now. When it starts or IF it starts to matter GAME OVER!!!!
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gatennis.... Thanks for the link to HW website. I read and watched many of the videos. Very informative. My 8 year old daughter was invited to a weekend USTA RTC camp back in October and one of the coaches there was encouraging players especially girls to adopt the millenium style forehand.
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gatennis.... Thanks for the link to HW website. I read and watched many of the videos. Very informative. My 8 year old daughter was invited to a weekend USTA RTC camp back in October and one of the coaches there was encouraging players especially girls to adopt the millenium style forehand.
Just watch the best woman that ever played(HENIN) and you will see the MILLENIUM forehand. Henin was 5 foot nothing and hit the biggest forehand in womens tennis.Watch Federer watch Stosur,Nadal,and many other top pros all leverage based. If i was you i would have her hit the leverage based forehand.
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Just watch the best woman that ever played(HENIN) and you will see the MILLENIUM forehand. Henin was 5 foot nothing and hit the biggest forehand in womens tennis.Watch Federer watch Stosur,Nadal,and many other top pros all leverage based. If i was you i would have her hit the leverage based forehand.
I will definitely study this leverage based forehand. She doesn't break the plane very much at all now, so this looks like hopefully she can learn. I just see so many huge backswings on the junior girls and some of them are decent size were you would think strength should not be an issue. We will begin shadow swinging today. Too cold up here in Indiana in get outside today
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I will definitely study this leverage based forehand. She doesn't break the plane very much at all now, so this looks like hopefully she can learn. I just see so many huge backswings on the junior girls and some of them are decent size were you would think strength should not be an issue. We will begin shadow swinging today. Too cold up here in Indiana in get outside today
Do hundreds of shadows.Video her doing shadows.Compare her shadows to Henin. Memorize Heath breakdown of the Millenium forehand.
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IMHO, too much emphasis is placed on the straight arm forehand (as opposed to the double bend) in HW's description of the Millennial forehand. The straight arm is not the end all be all; many have succeeded wothout it.
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I know i did the same thing. Im still doing it today. I know my daughter isnt ready to compete but im still letting her play tournaments as long as shes doing it right.She doesnt have any technical flaws its just she just doesnt know how to compete yet. Im not worried about wins or losses now even though it drives me crazy to watch her lose to some of these girls she loses to. I SEE THE BIG PICTURE AND WHAT IVE SEEN AND WHAT I KNOW IS THAT WHEN SHES 14 SHE WONT BE LOSING TO ANY OF THESE GIRLS THAT I HAVE SEEN PLAY.The ONLY reason she loses now is that it really doesnt matter to her right now. When it starts or IF it starts to matter GAME OVER!!!!
...does she define her emotions to you after a loss, either immediately or after taking some time for herself?

My kid takes losses hard immediately afterward and as long as I keep my mouth shut. After he takes some time to himself, he tends to define his emotions to me. Mostly, he says he hates to lose, even if he is the underdog (half of his matches in the 12s, he's 10). I dropped him a level, still 12s but not Open. He wins the tourney. No real elation, subdued reaction. I was pleased on both counts. He recognized his level and did not celebrate the mere victory and he was eager to go back up even if it meant more struggle.

Bottomline, emotions are tricky. If she continues to improve with a subdued outlook that could be fantastic. If you detect a disconnect or maybe a connect between her emotional caring and her improvement and performance or lack thereof, then it could be a factor to monitor to avoid burnout. Here is to hoping she finds the love to carry her through the journey.
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[quote=Postpre;7051783]IMHO, too much emphasis is placed on the straight arm forehand (as opposed to the double bend) in HW's description of the Millennial forehand. The straight arm is not the end all be all; many have succeeded wothout it.[/. Of course it's not the end all be all.
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Scientifically the racquet and arm together act as a third class lever.When one makes contact with a straight arm they are merely increasing the length of the lever arm.And simply following the principles of science when one increases the length of a lever arm they are more able to generate more force with less energy. Heath Waters
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The other benefit to a leverage based forehand technique is that the technique mandates that contact be made further out in front of which means a practitioner of the leverage based techniques ball will always get to their target sooner then the one who utilizes a more flexed arm contact assuming both players are hitting the same spin,velocity and taking the ball off the ground at a similar contact height. Heath Waters
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