Orange Bowl 2012

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by TCF

Brad.....truce, once and for all. Obviously this got out of hand. No more will come from my side.

no problem , i am sorry , please just respect our decision about what we are wanting as a family as a team , if you are to come out and watch him in person and can show me why he shouldn't go pro other then jr results i would gladly listen and as always consider ,

[TCF]

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[coaching32yrs]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

coach on the advice of several top NCAA coaches about 7 or 8 they have said over the years they have watched DB's game progress and by the time he would be ready for college he would be more ready to go after the tour what do you say to that ? I asked them why do they think that because these guys are trying to recruit and they are pointing us towards looking to go pro , always followed by but we would love him at our program ?

give me your thoughts

It depends who the 7 or 8 coaches are, your relationship with them, and the level of trust between you and them. Coach: I don't agree with TCF. The pros for your player are a long shot- but possible. Especially with the improvement he is showing. The only logical route to the pros for him is through college. Have you seen the roster at UVA? Imagine practicing with those guys 20 hours a week with top notch coaching, and playing matches against some of the best players in the country. I think the entire group of young Americans need college first. Your player may be an Isner or Steve Johnson. He is not a Harrison. Honestly coach ask yourself how much your bias against college is about not wanting to give up control of your player's career. It is an emotion we all have and very legitimate- but is it in the best interests of your player?

[TCF]

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[Soianka]

Nice posts TCF.

What Brad and his son have accomplished with so little is nothing short of amazing.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by coaching32yrs

It depends who the 7 or 8 coaches are, your relationship with them, and the level of trust between you and them. Coach: I don't agree with TCF. The pros for your player are a long shot- but possible. Especially with the improvement he is showing. The only logical route to the pros for him is through college. Have you seen the roster at UVA? Imagine practicing with those guys 20 hours a week with top notch coaching, and playing matches against some of the best players in the country. I think the entire group of young Americans need college first. Your player may be an Isner or Steve Johnson. He is not a Harrison. Honestly coach ask yourself how much your bias against college is about not wanting to give up control of your player's career. It is an emotion we all have and very legitimate- but is it in the best interests of your player?

Losing control is not a problem he spends a majority of time on his own already will be for the next month in Fl. Without pops , my problem with college is tennis today is a real full time job on tour , college there are study's that take place after long hours in the class room then you get a little practice 2 hrs a day , extra time is for sleep and rest .

[andfor]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

Tai played smart will try and post video of match as soon as I can , As Tai said in his interview after the match is pretty much what happened Tai's game plan was to hit high looping balls and any wide defensive balls were sliced , DB looked to drive through the court which does not work on clay and basically hit himself out of the match , pretty much for the first time in the tourney played a hard court style , hurt to watch LOL

At this point you must give Tai credit he knew how he needed to play and he did it and i shook his hand and told him smart playing and it was .

Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not making excuses for him. Not having been there, mine is just an observation on paper. The best thing I'm hearing from you is it appears you're viewing the experience from a much clearer lens and most of all learning from it. That will make him a better player tomorrow and that's a great take away from the week.

Good to see you and TCF are settling down the vitriol.

[TCF]

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[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by TCF

Now for a serious congratulations to both DB and Brad without the clouded lens of the past 6 years.

GREAT week of tennis.

DB beat several players ranked top 150 ITF. He beat # 20 Coric who is going to be an amazing player.

Reaching the quarters of the OB at age 16 is a huge accomplishment. He now must be fired up, is heading to work at an academy and should see even more improvements to his game having a steady supply of hitting partners.

What they have accomplished so far, with little outside help and lack of hitting partners, is nothing short of amazing.

I hope DB continues his path towards his dream and wish him all the best. He did American tennis PROUD this week!!

Best post of 2012!!!!!!!

[TCF]

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[Soianka]

How did Abby do at the Nike Junior International tournie?



..........nevermind looks like it is going on right now.

[coaching32yrs]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

Losing control is not a problem he spends a majority of time on his own already will be for the next month in Fl. Without pops , my problem with college is tennis today is a real full time job on tour , college there are study's that take place after long hours in the class room then you get a little practice 2 hrs a day , extra time is for sleep and rest .

Practice at the very top schools will be at or near the NCAA limit of 20 hours a week. That is more than enough to prep for a pro career. Yes there will be 10-12 hours a week of class and some homework but that part is very doable. On the pro tour it is hard to train and get the right variety of hitting partners. You have to be a finished product just needing match toughness and play. Did the coaches at UVA and USC tell you he should be looking to go pro? I don't think so. Those schools would be perfect to get him ready for the next level. I have more faith in those colleges and coaches than the Academies.

[TCF]

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[GRANITECHIEF]

Originally Posted by TCF

From now on lets work together to develop the kids.

Now we're getting somewhere. Nice evolution of this forum.

Along those lines, I am looking for a host for my jr. player for F1-F3 the first 3 weeks of Jan. Looks like they are all in the same general area: Plantation, Sunrise, Weston FL.

If anybody knows anybody that may be interested in hosting a 17 year old USA boy going for his first atp points, lets talk more. Thanks!

[egilgrim]

Nice to see Elias Ymer doing so good these days! Sweden needs another top player soon. Even though Norway doesn't seem to produce any top players we have to enjoy the success of the swedes

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by GRANITECHIEF

Now we're getting somewhere. Nice evolution of this forum.

Along those lines, I am looking for a host for my jr. player for F1-F3 the first 3 weeks of Jan. Looks like they are all in the same general area: Plantation, Sunrise, Weston FL.

If anybody knows anybody that may be interested in hosting a 17 year old USA boy going for his first atp points, lets talk more. Thanks!

Granite give me a call when u can or through YouTube I have a friend in something 'Pines' by Plantation

[ChiefAce]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

You will see this kid Borna on the ATP he is very solid knows how to play has great movement , nice strokes and a very good attitude on court.

Chieface this was a solid win this kid was playing a pusher style the day before against a kid and I thought DB was gonna buzzsaw him next thing i know they are trading huge groundies and long rallies the 1st set and Borna took it , DB continued till he made his way through him but this kid was NO joke by any means .

Sounds like he has as legit a shot as anyone. You probably don't even remember, and jokingly or not years ago I remember when you were thinking of switching DB to a one hander. That two hander was way too buttery and smooth to ever abandon, but how is his forehand right now? When he arrives at the academy I would have someone check his left arm and how he gets it out of the way on that side. It still appears as though there is a very slight hiccup in there. I'm just going off of what I see in his most recent hitting videos, but it does look better than a year or so ago with Krajinovic and Nishikori.

Congratulations on all the success. To me when a kid has a legit shot to go for the highest level the people around them should be helping as much as possible. Seems the "board" is finally a little more on board with a positive approach which is nice.

Best of luck in his training, you can't teach height

[rgwarren]

Originally Posted by TCF

Oh yeah, thats right up in Port Saint Lucie.....and Little Mo is in our town here now. Big weekend in these parts for the little ones.

Hey rgwarren, not sure where Abby is heading after Port Saint Lucie, but if there is time we may be able to have the girls hit. We are about 40 minutes south.

I can contact her dad and see what he says, they are pretty booked though. I think shes got USTA training and heading to Sarasota to open up a Bryan brothers event right before the Orange Bowl. It's a nice offer though. ,,,,From what I hear she's got a tough draw, but the #1 seed lost today to the girl that Abby beat in Eddie Herr. all the draws are posted at www.nikejuniortour.com

[ga tennis]

WOW!!!! If it stays like this we might have something really special here guys. A ton of passion with knowledgeable posters WOW!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!!!! We can really help each others here guys if we keep this going..

[TennisTaxi]

Please don't under estimate the benefits of a college education....

I say try college stay for 4 years like Johnson or go the Kosakowski route if he isn't benefiting from college.. then leave and go Pro!!

Glad to see DB is on the move up