13 year old boxer prodigy MMA fighter similarities to tennis

[Pro_Tour_630]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbmbScZgZD8

what are the similarities that I gathered from this video to produce a champion.

2 ½ hour of training 5 times a week for a total 12 ½ hours a week.

parents coaching kids, then taking them to best trainers in world.

wanna be the best gotta put the time,

the kickboxing trainer who was torturing his students which is boarder line child abuse, we have seen our share or nutty parents/trainers in tennis.

And finally,,,,,,,fighters are born not made, are tennis players born to become champions or are they made?

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by Pro_Tour_630

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbmbScZgZD8

what are the similarities that I gathered from this video to produce a champion.

2 ½ hour of training 5 times a week for a total 12 ½ hours a week.

parents coaching kids, then taking them to best trainers in world.

wanna be the best gotta put the time,

the kickboxing trainer who was torturing his students which is boarder line child abuse, we have seen our share or nutty parents/trainers in tennis.

And finally,,,,,,,fighters are born not made, are tennis players born to become champions or are they made?

I believe they are born/ made , I believe they are born with some bonuses such as speed , height , strength , anticipation some anger ect.. but these bonuses can be built also , you may never be Bolt in the 100 but lets say you put in the time and hard work and ran a high 10 or 11 that would be great but you may not have that extra bonus Bolt was born with and never see a low 10 or 9 .

I love this video you put up love the kids attitude .

[TCF]

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[Pro_Tour_630]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

I believe they are born/ made , I believe they are born with some bonuses such as speed , height , strength , anticipation some anger ect.. but these bonuses can be built also , you may never be Bolt in the 100 but lets say you put in the time and hard work and ran a high 10 or 11 that would be great but you may not have that extra bonus Bolt was born with and never see a low 10 or 9 .

I love this video you put up love the kids attitude .

do you think this kid will become a Pro boxer or Pro MMA fighter who earns millions? can we predict at 13 year olds on who will be a pro champion? I knew you'd like the video

[Pro_Tour_630]

Originally Posted by TCF

Thats light weight stuff, our training sessions are tougher than those.

well we did not see what that two time world champion coach from Uzbekistan does, I bet it makes our 12 year olds look like alter boys or the coaches from Ajax what they do to their players to make them champions

there was a thread not tool long ago, how much is too much? five hours a day ? I think it is too much. Efficiency vs quantity ?

[TCF]

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[jigglypuff]

Originally Posted by Pro_Tour_630

2 ½ hour of training 5 times a week for a total 12 ½ hours a week.

It's got to be more... this is nothing.

[maggmaster]

Actually that's pretty good if you are just talking fight training. Road work and gym work are usually separate.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by Pro_Tour_630

do you think this kid will become a Pro boxer or Pro MMA fighter who earns millions? can we predict at 13 year olds on who will be a pro champion? I knew you'd like the video

its possible , its the road I have taken with DB , what they do with a kid when the kid has the goods proper technique ,hunger they usually protect them and groom them , not to many fights, light schedule but keep him competitive "sparring" they will have him fight golden gloves , maybe Olympics ect. then look to turn pro .

One of the mistakes I see in tennis is overplayed , kids with solid technique when their young are drenched in tourneys , example a kid in our area won OB and EH back to back and in 1 calender year he played some 50 tourneys as many as 2 a week through the summer , this kid was mentally tough but lacked in some areas technically they should have worked on this he today would be a monster but he is going to college .

[WoodIndoors]

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[widmerpool]

Originally Posted by WoodIndoors

Light training one might say, Why do you think they have selected this path?

Because they know more about training than Type A American parents. And the kid enjoys it this way.

[jigglypuff]

Originally Posted by WoodIndoors

The best european 12 year old trains 2 hours a day 5 days a week max (plus couple of light physique sessions a week + team sports with friends once a week). Moves and hits the ball like I never seen anyone that age do before. Pure talent, both physically and tactically.

Light training one might say, Why do you think they have selected this path?

Yes.. if you have talent you can get away with it. For everyone else... you pretty much have to work your butt off.

[BMC9670]

Nice... kids from the ripe old age of 5 taking hundreds of blows to the head. The future is bright.

[ahuimanu]

...loved video and the kid's work ethic/desire but don't see the something "extra" to take him to the top level of the sport (boxing/MMA). Likewise, I think you need the something extra to separate yourself from the average to "make it" in sports and tennis specifically (foot/hand speed, timing, power, etc.).

Unlike tennis, being average in boxing/MMA will usually get you hurt

[barringer97]

Originally Posted by BMC9670

Nice... kids from the ripe old age of 5 taking hundreds of blows to the head. The future is bright.

Unreal right? There was a clip in there of a 5 year old getting 10 quick shots to the head. What a joke.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by jigglypuff

Yes.. if you have talent you can get away with it. For everyone else... you pretty much have to work your butt off.

BS , this guy named Fed had 3 , 2 hr hit sessions a day plus some gym work also this guy named Jordan practice up to 6 hrs a day and I believe these 2 were very talented and still are ! That's a lot of practice hrs for such talent .

[jigglypuff]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

BS , this guy named Fed had 3 , 2 hr hit sessions a day plus some gym work also this guy named Jordan practice up to 6 hrs a day and I believe these 2 were very talented and still are ! That's a lot of practice hrs for such talent .

When and how old? Definitely not at five and not at 8 when he started tennis or the subsequent years that he played other sports.

So maybe when he was in his early teens at an academy that he started to train like that. Now that is talent...

If your kid followed that route, would he be where he is today? Or is he where he is today because he just plain bust his azz since 5?

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by jigglypuff

When and how old? Definitely not at five and not at 8 when he started tennis or the subsequent years that he played other sports.

So maybe when he was in his early teens at an academy that he started to train like that. Now that is talent...

If your kid followed that route, would he be where he is today? Or is he where he is today because he just plain bust his azz since 5?

Maybe I am hearing you wrong but and American kid i believe named Levine met to hit with Fed in Dubai a couple of years back , he said fed was finishing a 2 hr hit took a shower then hit with him for and 1 1/2 then ask if he could return later for a 2 hr hit after 6 pm , I understand why Fed is where he is at the talent is the discipline to work that hard .

[db379]

Originally Posted by Pro_Tour_630

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbmbScZgZD8

what are the similarities that I gathered from this video to produce a champion.

2 ½ hour of training 5 times a week for a total 12 ½ hours a week.

parents coaching kids, then taking them to best trainers in world.

wanna be the best gotta put the time,

the kickboxing trainer who was torturing his students which is boarder line child abuse, we have seen our share or nutty parents/trainers in tennis.

And finally,,,,,,,fighters are born not made, are tennis players born to become champions or are they made?

PT630,
Thanks for posting. Yes, all top athletes must put in a lot of hard work, talent only is not enough. Same in tennis, boxing, MMA or else.
Regarding your comment "fighters are born not made", I am not sure you are correct... have you heard of the super star MMA fighter Georges Saint-Pierre or GSP? I heard him say in an interview that he was a small, shy kid growing up and he was constantly being bullied around by other kids in school. He wasn't a fighter, he's rather flee or not respond. In fact because of this experience in his childhood, he started to practice martial arts. He is one of the smartest and most hard working athletes too. Now, he has become one of the most feared fighters in the UFC!

[Pro_Tour_630]

Originally Posted by db379

PT630,
Thanks for posting. Yes, all top athletes must put in a lot of hard work, talent only is not enough. Same in tennis, boxing, MMA or else.
Regarding your comment "fighters are born not made", I am not sure you are correct... have you heard of the super star MMA fighter Georges Saint-Pierre or GSP? I heard him say in an interview that he was a small, shy kid growing up and he was constantly being bullied around by other kids in school. He wasn't a fighter, he's rather flee or not respond. In fact because of this experience in his childhood, he started to practice martial arts. He is one of the smartest and most hard working athletes too. Now, he has become one of the most feared fighters in the UFC!

I was just summarizing and gathering info from the video hence ? the fighter you quoted could have been born a fighter and did not now it, my son is a genius in chess ( he was born this way) we did not know it until later