Nadal nervous about coming back!

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

I'd say he showed he can, what remains to be seen is whether he will.

How did he do that? Did he beat Djokovic off clay since 2011? He has NOT shown that he can yet. I think he can, but he certainly has not shown it yet.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

So that means you are only considering events in 2011. Everybody knows Nadal was better in 2010 (the year Nadal beat Djokovic at the US Open and World Tour Finals) than he was in 2011. It is a bit too "convenient" to disregard results prior to 2011. Would peak Djokovic have beaten peak Nadal? I'm not convinced, considering we are currently watching peak Djokovic and he needed 6 hours to defeat Nadal at the Australian Open (Djokovic's favorite slam surface, and Nadal's 3rd or 4th best slam surface).

Look, I don't know what is going to happen in the future and I would not rule Nadal out completely, but the fact is Nadal has not defeated Djokovic off clay since that winning streak of Djokovic's in 2011 and Nadal has not won ANY tournament off clay since 2010.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Magnus

Nadal is scared to be caught on drugs usage again.

Something more is going on than his "knees" that is for sure.

[RAFA2005RG]

Let me remind the children in this thread that a doping ban is a lot longer than 6 months. Even recreational drugs is a 2 year ban. When Hingis was banned for cocaine her reading was just 42ng/ml of a cocaine metabolite (such a minute trace that it wouldn't trigger a positive result had a test been administered by the US Military), and that legend was give 2 YEARS just for using a recreational drug. Doping is far more serious. That means once Nadal returns (this month) you kids are going to owe him (and everyone else) an engraved apology.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

Let me remind the children in this thread that a doping ban is a lot longer than 6 months. Even recreational drugs is a 2 year ban. When Hingis was banned for cocaine her reading was just 42ng/ml of a cocaine metabolite (such a minute trace that it wouldn't trigger a positive result had a test been administered by the US Military), and that legend was give 2 YEARS just for using a recreational drug. Doping is far more serious. That means once Nadal returns (this month) you kids are going to owe him (and everyone else) an engraved apology.

You run the ATP do you?

Nobody actually knows the inner business of the ATP and what they would do or would not do for their biggest star players so please don't insult our intelligence. As has been mentioned many times before a top player could be on a provisional suspension and the public would not find out about it if said player was cleared in a tribunal.

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by cc0509

You run the ATP do you?

Nobody actually knows the inner business of the ATP and what they would do or would not do for their biggest star players so please don't insult our intelligence. As has been mentioned many times before a top player could be on a provisional suspension and the public would not find out about it if said player was cleared in a tribunal.

Yep its been mentioned many times by people of your ilk.

The funniest thing about this is if you read any tennis forum dating back to around 2009, the consensus among tennis fans was that Nadal would have a career plagued by injures and perhaps retire by age 26. So why the sudden surprise when he misses half a year? He's already won slams for longer than expected (in fact he's already tied the record of 8 straight slam-winning years). The only logical excuse for such brain-fade is that federer's numerous fans will do anything to discredit federer's owner. Surely that's it. Surely they aren't dumb enough to believe Nadal isn't injury prone....

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

Yep its been mentioned many times by people of your ilk.

Because people of my ilk actually understand business.

And why do you have that silly picture of Nadal and Shakira in your avatar? Trying to prove something about Nadal?

[Sabratha]

Him being nervous means an obvious drop in level.

[kragster]

Originally Posted by cc0509

You run the ATP do you?

Nobody actually knows the inner business of the ATP and what they would do or would not do for their biggest star players so please don't insult our intelligence. As has been mentioned many times before a top player could be on a provisional suspension and the public would not find out about it if said player was cleared in a tribunal.

I think YOU should not insult our intelligence. The burden of proof is always on conspiracy theorists .

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by kragster

I think YOU should not insult our intelligence. The burden of proof is always on conspiracy theorists .

There is no burden of proof necessary, this is not a court of law, it is a tennis forum where people have different opinions.

[Feather]

Originally Posted by cc0509

There is no burden of proof necessary, this is not a court of law, it is a tennis forum where people have different opinions.

I really don't think Rafa is banned. I think it's impossible to happen. I suspect Djokovic more of using any banned substance than Rafa. I don't intend to say that you meant Rafa was banned. Just added my two cents

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Feather

I really don't think Rafa is banned. I think it's impossible to happen. I suspect Djokovic more of using any banned substance than Rafa. I don't intend to say that you meant Rafa was banned. Just added my two cents

That is where we disagree. Also, I am not trying to say Nadal may use something and the other top players don't. I don't think that at all.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by cc0509

How did he do that? Did he beat Djokovic off clay since 2011? He has NOT shown that he can yet. I think he can, but he certainly has not shown it yet.

I thought what I said was pretty clear. He showed he can at the AO (let's for a moment forget all the times that he's beat him before on hc). It doesn't mean he's done it.

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

Let me remind the children in this thread that a doping ban is a lot longer than 6 months. Even recreational drugs is a 2 year ban. When Hingis was banned for cocaine her reading was just 42ng/ml of a cocaine metabolite (such a minute trace that it wouldn't trigger a positive result had a test been administered by the US Military), and that legend was give 2 YEARS just for using a recreational drug. Doping is far more serious. That means once Nadal returns (this month) you kids are going to owe him (and everyone else) an engraved apology.

Martina looks gorgeous there...

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by cc0509

You run the ATP do you?

Nobody actually knows the inner business of the ATP and what they would do or would not do for their biggest star players so please don't insult our intelligence. As has been mentioned many times before a top player could be on a provisional suspension and the public would not find out about it if said player was cleared in a tribunal.

Except for you, of course.

Originally Posted by cc0509

There is no burden of proof necessary, this is not a court of law, it is a tennis forum where people have different opinions.

And where people can call your on bs accusations for what they are.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by cc0509

How did he do that? Did he beat Djokovic off clay since 2011? He has NOT shown that he can yet. I think he can, but he certainly has not shown it yet.

Eeyore hasn't shown he can consistently beat Nadal off of hardcourts. That street travels both ways.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

I thought what I said was pretty clear. He showed he can at the AO (let's for a moment forget all the times that he's beat him before on hc). It doesn't mean he's done it.

Excuse me, did Nadal actually win the AO in 2012? Did I miss that?

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

Except for you, of course.



And were people can call your on bs accusations for what they are.

I don't know the inner workings of the ATP but I do know a lot about business.

I assume you mean where and not were. You can call me out on my bs accusations all you want, doesn't change my opinion which last time I checked was my democratic right and this is a tennis forum not a court of law so you are wasting your time.

Remember nobody thought Lance Armstrong, or Marion Jones or countless other pro athletes had anything to do with doping. LOL, what a joke.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Eeyore hasn't shown he can consistently beat Nadal off of hardcourts. That street travels both ways.

I agree but since HC's make up most of the tour, Djokovic is at an advantage here.

[tacou]

Tennistically hah. I like this. He's basically saying I'mma play AO and then nothing until IW/Miami. That's what he should have been doing his whole career.

[kragster]

Originally Posted by cc0509

I don't know the inner workings of the ATP but I do know a lot about business.

I assume you mean where and not were. You can call me out on my bs accusations all you want, doesn't change my opinion which last time I checked was my democratic right and this is a tennis forum not a court of law so you are wasting your time.

Remember nobody thought Lance Armstrong, or Marion Jones or countless other pro athletes had anything to do with doping. LOL, what a joke.

I don't know what rock you were living under but right since 1999 or 2000 there have been serious allegations against Armstrong! It might have taken them a while to prove it conclusively but the news has been in the media for ages. Just do a google search for it. Now contrast that to what's in the media about Nadal. Basically nothing except some idle TW talk and yannick Noah making some random comment. Let me know when there is a serious allegation against Nadal and then we can have a reasonable discussion.