WORLD NO. 1 (by year)

[Dan Lobb]

Originally Posted by boredone3456

You did not say first ever broadcast in color of a sporting event, you said "first ever color broadcast by NBC"there is a major difference between those 2 statements which I am sure you well know. You are just trying to save face because yet another one of your ascertains have been contradicted and proven wrong in this thread, whether you want to admit it or not.

Who cares whether the tournament of roses is a Parade or not? It was broadcast in color, which proves your claim wrong.

While it is quite clear you know a lot of the history surrounding the game of tennis you look at it through some of the most rose tinted glasses possible when it comes to your favorite players and the tone in which you address people who dare contradict is getting quite over the top and almost borders on trollish.

Again, 21 stations does not constitute a network broadcast.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

The Queen also showed up for the 1957 Wimbledon final where Hoad dominated Cooper, and the 1962 final where Laver dominated Mulligan. Two special players.
In general, the Queen does not attend Wimbledon, unlike other major sporting events. Probably because her own father played men's doubles at Wimbledon in the early 1920's, he asked the other players to show him no special favours, and he was beaten badly as a result. I guess the other players should not have followed his advice.

Lovely story.Never heard about.

Who was the most famous personality who played tennis at a certain competitive level? Jimmy Carter was hooked on tennis, I know.France former prime minister Jacques Chaban Delmas won some national events when he was starting his political career, but never got highly ranked enough.

John Alexander is now a MP.Buster Mottram and Adriano Panatta have ran for City Council seats, although in two very different ( opposite) parties.

Maybe John mc Enroe, who is a staunch democrat will give it a try at politics.He could turn out being the most famous tennis player/politican ever...

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by boredone3456

You did not say first ever broadcast in color of a sporting event, you said "first ever color broadcast by NBC"there is a major difference between those 2 statements which I am sure you well know. You are just trying to save face because yet another one of your ascertains have been contradicted and proven wrong in this thread, whether you want to admit it or not.

Who cares whether the tournament of roses is a Parade or not? It was broadcast in color, which proves your claim wrong.

While it is quite clear you know a lot of the history surrounding the game of tennis you look at it through some of the most rose tinted glasses possible when it comes to your favorite players and the tone in which you address people who dare contradict is getting quite over the top and almost borders on trollish.

boredone3456, You made the point. Some of his statements and answers seem to be trolling. But at least I must concede that Dan never uses insulting words. I just ask myself if Dan is aware that he sometimes is trolling or if he is not aware...

[Dan Lobb]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

boredone3456, You made the point. Some of his statements and answers seem to be trolling. But at least I must concede that Dan never uses insulting words. I just ask myself if Dan is aware that he sometimes is trolling or if he is not aware...

The answer is simple. Boredone did not establish his point.
The 1954 Rose Bowl Parade was only broadcast on 21 stations, and was not a national broadcast.
End of argument.

[urban]

Dan, that is not quite right. Prince Philipp showed up at the Hoad-Cooper final 1957 and attended the victory ceremony. I have seen pictures of this. The Queen never has been especially Wimbledon friendly. She gave Laver the trophy in 1962 and Virginiai Wade in 1977. It could be that she was present as a young girl togther with her King Father, when Kramer won in 1947. Or was it Princess Margaret, maybe both young girls.

[Dan Lobb]

Originally Posted by urban

Dan, that is not quite right. Prince Philipp showed up at the Hoad-Cooper final 1957 and attended the victory ceremony. I have seen pictures of this. The Queen never has been especially Wimbledon friendly. She gave Laver the trophy in 1962 and Virginiai Wade in 1977. It could be that she was present as a young girl togther with her King Father, when Kramer won in 1947. Or was it Princess Margaret, maybe both young girls.

Apparently the Queen attended the 1957 final and watched Hoad beat Cooper from the stands, Prince Philip presenting the trophy.
Her aversion to Wimbledon is known to stem from the 1926 men's doubles, in which her father competed, and insisted on not receiving any special treatment by the other players. He became the "target" in a one-sided beating, and I think that the other players should have ignored his advice, and given him some room to shine. Better business.

[Dan Lobb]

Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

Apparently the Queen attended the 1957 final and watched Hoad beat Cooper from the stands, Prince Philip presenting the trophy.
Her aversion to Wimbledon is known to stem from the 1926 men's doubles, in which her father competed, and insisted on not receiving any special treatment by the other players. He became the "target" in a one-sided beating, and I think that the other players should have ignored his advice, and given him some room to shine. Better business.

The Queen avoided Wimbledon like the plague until 1957, when the presence of Hoad in the final was too much of an attraction to stay away any longer.

[boredone3456]

Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

The answer is simple. Boredone did not establish his point.
The 1954 Rose Bowl Parade was only broadcast on 21 stations, and was not a national broadcast.
End of argument.

I established my point quite clearly, that your statement was wrong. Just because you did not like what you read does not mean I did not establish a valid point.

End of argument.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

The Queen avoided Wimbledon like the plague until 1957, when the presence of Hoad in the final was too much of an attraction to stay away any longer.

What young woman in the 50´s could just let Hoad split away?

[kiki]

Originally Posted by boredone3456

I established my point quite clearly, that your statement was wrong. Just because you did not like what you read does not mean I did not establish a valid point.

End of argument.

How can somebody dare to compare Hingis to Henin?

[TMF]

Originally Posted by kiki

How can somebody dare to compare Hingis to Henin?

Henin>Hingis and the gap between them is much wider than Kafelnikov and Kodes.

[boredone3456]

Originally Posted by kiki

How can somebody dare to compare Hingis to Henin?

Yes how can somebody think Hingis is on the same level as Henin, I honestly don't see it myself...especially when 3 of her majors came during the weakest year of the 90s. But hey..thats some posters for you. Goodbye now.

[Dan Lobb]

Originally Posted by boredone3456

I established my point quite clearly, that your statement was wrong. Just because you did not like what you read does not mean I did not establish a valid point.

End of argument.

The 1954 Rose Bowl was not an NBC network broadcast.
The 1955 Hoad/Trabert match WAS, and attracted over 10 million viewers, the FIRST mass TV audience for tennis.
Historic.
Vice-President Nixon knew a good thing and tagged along with Hoad and company.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by TMF

Henin>Hingis and the gap between them is much wider than Kafelnikov and Kodes.

wake me up the day the Belgian wins a Wimbledon title.Good evening.

[TMF]

Originally Posted by kiki

wake me up the day the Belgian wins a Wimbledon title.Good evening.

Wake me up when Hingis win 7 slams.

[pc1]

Originally Posted by kiki

wake me up the day the Belgian wins a Wimbledon title.Good evening.

Originally Posted by TMF

Wake me up when Hingis win 7 slams.

Guys,

Hingis and Henin were both great players and in my opinion both were fairly close. It's not exactly that they have a huge gap in playing level.

Here's the records for both.

http://www.wtatennis.com/players/player/3491

http://www.wtatennis.com/players/player/3541

Overall for singles career Henin has an edge but it's not a huge edge in my opinion. Both super players.

[TMF]

^
Well I'm pretty sure most fans would agree with me that Henin>Hingis. And I happened to root for Hingis whenever she play the Williams sisters.

We know kiki always short change a player's accomplishment if he/she isn't his favorite, but handout the bouquet of red roses for his favorite.

[Nadal_Power]

If we look single/doubles record there is no question which one is better player

[kiki]

Originally Posted by TMF

Wake me up when Hingis win 7 slams.

Doubles? oh¡ it is not tennis for current standarts

[kiki]

Originally Posted by Nadal_Power

If we look single/doubles record there is no question which one is better player

that´s it, that´s it.

TMF´s only reason to pray for Henin is his/her hate for the Williams.

Wait, Martina had a pretty good record vs the ssisters...