Towsend and Australian Open 2013

[julian]

Originally Posted by OneTennisParent

Re Ana Konjuh; I have no empirical evidence but seriously doubt she is 14. I saw her play the Eddie Herr G14 doubles final in 2011 when she would have been 13. She served at 110, hit 80mph groundies and had quads bigger than mine. She stands 5' 10" has an unusually deep voice and I personally herd her tell the tournament director that she was thrilled to finally win, as this was her 6th time playing the Eddie Herr. Hmmmm... that would mean she was playing the 12s when she was 7? Not likely. More believable is that the Serbian Federation gave her a new passport with a brand new birth year. International competition is filled with players who falsify their age. At this year's Eddie Herr my daughter heard two boys in the registration line complaining about a player they know is 18, playing the 16s. Interestingly, one of the boys asked his friend why he's complaining when he does the same thing. His answer was that "everybody's doing it, so why not?" I know it's impossible to police foreign players, but there should be some system that compares past registrations against current, to see if anyone suddenly got younger. TDs are so confrontation averse they prefer to look the other way, and collect the fee.

She is almost 15 as of today

[onehandbh]

Originally Posted by TCF

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/sp...nted=all&_r=1&

Just read this story on Taylor. I am blown away by the part where the author says an "elderly man was heckling her about her race and baby fat". I would love to have seen someone go up and bust him right in the nose!

Even in 2012, with Obama as our president, the sad fact is that there is
still quite a bit of racism in the U.S. It's a bit more veiled and less open
but definitely still there. Less so in the NE and west coast, though.

Also, ironic that the U.S. was a country created by illegal immigrants and
today there are still many people against immigration.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by onehandbh

Even in 2012, with Obama as our president, the sad fact is that there is
still quite a bit of racism in the U.S. It's a bit more veiled and less open
but definitely still there. Less so in the NE and west coast, though.

Also, ironic that the U.S. was a country created by illegal immigrants and
today there are still many people against immigration.

your last sentence there , if I recall right the USA was a territory that people immigrated to and once it became a country and established laws and borders then "ILLEGAL" immigration was and still is frowned upon .

Not sure if I have it right but didn't they have it set up at some island for people immigrating here legally would be there learn the language, learn the laws , the history ?

BTW i live in CA where I am watching illegal immigration destroy neighborhood after neighborhood and causing a lot of problems for our American citizens in our schools, hospital ,gangs ect. It has nothing to do with racism which your accusing me of because I would deport all of them today if I was President because the one we have and had have no backbone to do whats right !

[julian]

TT has a WTA ranking of 498

[onehandbh]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

your last sentence there , if I recall right the USA was a territory that people immigrated to and once it became a country and established laws and borders then "ILLEGAL" immigration was and still is frowned upon .

It was a land that was already inhabited by various peoples (now referred to
as Native Americans.) It wasn't uninhabited lands. There were people already
here that had a rich culture. Same with the lands south of what is now the USA.

[andfor]

Originally Posted by onehandbh

Even in 2012, with Obama as our president, the sad fact is that there is
still quite a bit of racism in the U.S. It's a bit more veiled and less open
but definitely still there. Less so in the NE and west coast, though.

Also, ironic that the U.S. was a country created by illegal immigrants and
today there are still many people against immigration.

The claims or racism often heard in the media are often tactics coming from those trying to intimidate and discredit those who disagree with their position and has nothing to do with race. Many of these claims have little merit. Does racism remain? Sadly yes, but that is changing for the better all the time.

The U.S. was created by those who legally immigrated. Legal immigration is a process that is encouraged by the U.S. and those who come to this country legally are welcomed.

[onehandbh]

Originally Posted by andfor

The claims or racism often heard in the media are often tactics coming from those trying to intimidate and discredit those who disagree with their position and has nothing to do with race. Many of these claims have little merit. Does racism remain? Sadly yes, but that is changing for the better all the time.

The U.S. was created by those who legally immigrated. Legal immigration is a process that is encouraged by the U.S. and those who come to this country legally are welcomed.

My calling the initial European settlers
"illegal immigrants" isn't totally
correct, but the early Europeans who
came to the US didn't exactly check
with the Native Americans if it was
ok to take over the land, etc.
There were people living for a long
time in the part of North America
now known as the USA long before
the European setters came and formed
the US.

[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by onehandbh

My calling the initial European settlers
"illegal immigrants" isn't totally
correct, but the early Europeans who
came to the US didn't exactly check
with the Native Americans if it was
ok to take over the land, etc.
There were people living for a long
time in the part of North America
now known as the USA long before
the European setters came and formed
the US.

I've always found it ironic that kids in the US are taught that America was "discovered" by a European, when there were millions of people living here for hundreds of years before or more. Europeans came here to escape tyranny and became conquers to those who lived here. I'm American and love this country, but living in an international family gives a different perspective on many things, including history.

[andfor]

Originally Posted by onehandbh

My calling the initial European settlers
"illegal immigrants" isn't totally
correct, but the early Europeans who
came to the US didn't exactly check
with the Native Americans if it was
ok to take over the land, etc.
There were people living for a long
time in the part of North America
now known as the USA long before
the European setters came and formed
the US.

Canada falls into the same category but no one mentions them. Same can be said of many countries around the world. But, it's always a favorite to pick on the U.S.

[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by andfor

Canada falls into the same category but no one mentions them. Same can be said of many countries around the world. But, it's always a favorite to pick on the U.S.

Many countries were formed by conquest, war, etc. I don't think people "pick on" the US - but Americans do tend to gloss over that ugly bit of history, that's all.

[ClarkC]

Originally Posted by julian

Just for the record
She is Croatian,NOT Serbian

That why it was so suspicious when the Serbian Federation issued a new passport to her.

[ClarkC]

Originally Posted by onehandbh

My calling the initial European settlers
"illegal immigrants" isn't totally
correct, but the early Europeans who
came to the US didn't exactly check
with the Native Americans if it was
ok to take over the land, etc.
There were people living for a long
time in the part of North America
now known as the USA long before
the European setters came and formed
the US.

"Not totally correct" is apparently a euphemism for "total nonsense."

But two can play this game. Let's call the colonists "immigrants" and then ask: How did massive immigration work out for the Native Americans? How well has it worked out for any group that allowed a huge influx of foreigners to eventually outnumber them? Any historical examples of how well that worked out?

[Number1Coach]

Out of the many many many tribes of Indians here in Anerica who was in charge and which tribe sold NY to those who settled their ? America has and ugly past because there were people here that would take your scalp off for pleasure and war depending on their mood and I am ok with that " your land do what you want" but also be prepared to be overtaken which is ugly too !

[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by ClarkC

"Not totally correct" is apparently a euphemism for "total nonsense."

But two can play this game. Let's call the colonists "immigrants" and then ask: How did massive immigration work out for the Native Americans? How well has it worked out for any group that allowed a huge influx of foreigners to eventually outnumber them? Any historical examples of how well that worked out?

Legal immigration is controlled and is not easy. It is a lengthy process and still not guaranteed for anyone/everyone. Influx of population through illegal immigration that is not controlled and has no accountability to meet is a different story.

[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

Out of the many many many tribes of Indians here in Anerica who was in charge and which tribe sold NY to those who settled their ? America has and ugly past because there were people here that would take your scalp off for pleasure and war depending on their mood and I am ok with that " your land do what you want" but also be prepared to be overtaken which is ugly too !

Imagine someone "discovered" your house and decided to move on in. Wouldn't you defend it? A little different than being in a "mood".

[tball2day]

Originally Posted by ClarkC

That why it was so suspicious when the Serbian Federation issued a new passport to her.

Originally Posted by ClarkC

"Not totally correct" is apparently a euphemism for "total nonsense."

But two can play this game. Let's call the colonists "immigrants" and then ask: How did massive immigration work out for the Native Americans? How well has it worked out for any group that allowed a huge influx of foreigners to eventually outnumber them? Any historical examples of how well that worked out?

Great posts ClarkC, thanks for the late night chuckles. Always on your toes.

[floridatennisdude]

I missed something...what does Townsend skipping the quallies in Melbourne have to do with native Americans and scalpings?

[andfor]

Originally Posted by floridatennisdude

I missed something...what does Townsend skipping the quallies in Melbourne have to do with native Americans and scalpings?

Started with non-sense from onehandbh. Have to ask him/her.

[julian]

The DVD of Taylor Townsend quoted in post #18 is NOT
from the 2012 Orange Bowl.
It is is from the 2012 Easter Bowl.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by OneTennisParent

Re Ana Konjuh; I have no empirical evidence but seriously doubt she is 14. I saw her play the Eddie Herr G14 doubles final in 2011 when she would have been 13. She served at 110, hit 80mph groundies and had quads bigger than mine. She stands 5' 10" has an unusually deep voice and I personally herd her tell the tournament director that she was thrilled to finally win, as this was her 6th time playing the Eddie Herr. Hmmmm... that would mean she was playing the 12s when she was 7? Not likely. More believable is that the Serbian Federation gave her a new passport with a brand new birth year. International competition is filled with players who falsify their age. At this year's Eddie Herr my daughter heard two boys in the registration line complaining about a player they know is 18, playing the 16s. Interestingly, one of the boys asked his friend why he's complaining when he does the same thing. His answer was that "everybody's doing it, so why not?" I know it's impossible to police foreign players, but there should be some system that compares past registrations against current, to see if anyone suddenly got younger. TDs are so confrontation averse they prefer to look the other way, and collect the fee.

My player at 15 was already standing 6'3 and hitting the crap out of the ball now at 16 he is 6'5 ,so this girl could be what she is . girls mature fast and if they are working her as I do my player I dont find it hard to believe .