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Rjtennis · 12-26-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tammo

yeah, he will. How did novak win wimbledon without any grass practice ? huh????? idiot....

Novak was on one of the greatest win streaks off all time...a little different. With that said, I think Nadal will be back playing at a high level fairly quickly, but IF and only if his knees are truly heathy. No one knows how his knees will react to playing a full schedule again.

MichaelNadal · 12-26-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rjtennis

Novak was on one of the greatest win streaks off all time...a little different. With that said, I think Nadal will be back playing at a high level fairly quickly, but IF and only if his knees are truly heathy. No one knows how his knees will react to playing a full schedule again.

I feel the same. As long as his knees are ACTUALLY healthy and not bothering him, I don't see any reason why he won't at least be back to his 2012 level of play again after a while.

veroniquem · 12-26-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tammo

yeah, he will. How did novak win wimbledon without any grass practice ? huh????? idiot....

No offense but I don't understand the comparison. Novak wasn't coming back from a several months break when he won Wimbledon, quite the opposite actually.

Mike Sams · 12-26-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelNadal

I feel the same. As long as his knees are ACTUALLY healthy and not bothering him, I don't see any reason why he won't at least be back to his 2012 level of play again after a while.

Nadal's 2011 and 2012 level of tennis isn't good enough to win him anything off clay. He needs to go to his 2008 level of play to have any chance of winning anything off clay. Even his 2010 level isn't good enough to win anything off clay because it took him all the way to clay court season for him to finally win a title and he won Wimby and USO at a time when Djokovic, Del Potro, Murray and Federer were basically dead and in severe slumps. The path was open for Nadal to win everything. He won't ever have that same opportunity again now that Djokorraypotro is now coming into prime while Fedal is at the tail end of prime.

MichaelNadal · 12-26-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Sams

Nadal's 2011 and 2012 level of tennis isn't good enough to win him anything off clay. He needs to go to his 2008 level of play to have any chance of winning anything off clay. Even his 2010 level isn't good enough to win anything off clay because it took him all the way to clay court season for him to finally win a title and he won Wimby and USO at a time when Djokovic, Del Potro, Murray and Federer were basically dead and in severe slumps. The path was open for Nadal to win everything. He won't ever have that same opportunity again now that Djokorraypotro is now coming into prime while Fedal is at the tail end of prime.

Are you also going to put a black cloud over every other victory for every other player in history that didn't beat someone in absolute peak form?

Mike Sams · 12-26-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelNadal

Are you also going to put a black cloud over every other victory for every other player in history that didn't beat someone in absolute peak form?

Not at all. Nadal is one of the greatest players in history. Definitely the greatest man ever to step foot on clay. All I said was that Nadal's 2010 Wimbledon level wasn't THAT high. He was very beatable but he faced an easier path in some of the tournaments he won because there was little competition that year. Nadal would have beaten Federer in that WTF 2010 Final if Federer hadn't picked up his form in the latter part of that year. Federer was losing to the likes of Hewitt and Montanes in finals for f*** sakes!!

Djokovic couldn't even beat a top 10 player to save his life for most of that year. Del Potro was dead basically and not even on the tour and Murray was a big mess.

Crisstti · 12-26-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Sams

Nadal's 2011 and 2012 level of tennis isn't good enough to win him anything off clay. He needs to go to his 2008 level of play to have any chance of winning anything off clay. Even his 2010 level isn't good enough to win anything off clay because it took him all the way to clay court season for him to finally win a title and he won Wimby and USO at a time when Djokovic, Del Potro, Murray and Federer were basically dead and in severe slumps. The path was open for Nadal to win everything. He won't ever have that same opportunity again now that Djokorraypotro is now coming into prime while Fedal is at the tail end of prime.

Facts say otherwise.

Clarky21 · 12-26-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelNadal

Are you also going to put a black cloud over every other victory for every other player in history that didn't beat someone in absolute peak form?

If this is the case then Mike Shams should also admit that all of those wins Eeyore had over Nadal don't count since Nadal played like crap in all of them, and was light years away from peak form.

Mike Sams · 12-26-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Crisstti

Facts say otherwise.

Facts are he didn't win anything off clay in 2011 and 2012. Still a great player but facts are facts.

Mike Sams · 12-26-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

If this is the case then Mike Shams should also admit that all of those wins Eeyore had over Nadal don't count since Nadal played like crap in all of them, and was light years away from peak form.

Moonballing and grinding doesn't work against Djokovic off clay.

Mike Sams · 12-26-2012, 02:26 PM

Remember that USO 2011 quarterfinal where Nadal ravaged Roddick like he stole something?

Crisstti · 12-26-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Sams

Facts are he didn't win anything off clay in 2011 and 2012. Still a great player but facts are facts.

His hc level in 2011 and 2012 showed he's right there when playing like that. If he can play like that again and stay reasonably healthy I'd certainly like his chances of winning another hc slam.

cc0509 · 12-26-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crisstti

His hc level in 2011 and 2012 showed he's right there when playing like that. If he can play like that again and stay reasonably healthy I'd certainly like his chances of winning another hc slam.

True, but he still has not won anything off clay since 2010 and Djokovic and Murray are at the very peak of their powers and you can never rule out old man Federer. Can Nadal win a slam on hc again? I think he can, but, it may not be as easy. Almost winning is not the same as winning. Only the bottom line matters.

Crisstti · 12-26-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cc0509

True, but he still has not won anything off clay since 2010 and Djokovic and Murray are at the very peak of their powers and you can never rule out old man Federer. Can Nadal win a slam on hc again? I think he can, but, it may not be as easy. Almost winning is not the same as winning. Only the bottom line matters.

But we were talking about his chances

It is true for sure he has tough competition.

cc0509 · 12-26-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Crisstti

But we were talking about his chances

It is true for sure he has tough competition.

First he has to show up at a hc slam to be in the mix. I have a feeling he may not show up anywhere until clay season, I could be wrong. I thought he would be ready for the AO a few weeks ago, but now it doesn't seem that way.

Crisstti · 12-26-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cc0509

First he has to show up at a hc slam to be in the mix. I have a feeling he may not show up anywhere until clay season, I could be wrong. I thought he would be ready for the AO a few weeks ago, but now it doesn't seem that way.

Well, his chances for this AO wouldn't be good, naturally. I don't know if he will play it. It's looking somewhat unlikely. I don't know if he should either.

The_Order · 12-26-2012, 06:07 PM

Nadal's chances on winning a HC slam aren't as low as everyone thinks.

He has the game to do it, Federer isn't really a danger to Rafa, Murray can beat Nadal but it depends on his form and unless Novak is in 2011 form again Rafa will have his chances against him as well.

Now he's not going to need to go through all 3 of them. I'd say he'd have better chances at the AO than the US Open though because of the court.

Candide · 12-26-2012, 06:12 PM

I love that this thread is right next to the thread titled: "Everyone keeps forgetting NADALS INJURY!"

Not as long as he keeps reminding everyone I guess. Ironical much?

90's Clay · 12-26-2012, 06:18 PM

I expect one more huge run from Nadal.. The only thing that can stop the tendinitis is a lot of rest and rehabbing.. And Nadal has been able to have plenty of that.

I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a huge run next year

Cup8489 · 12-26-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crisstti

Facts say otherwise.

Fail. Nadal didn't win anything off clay in 2011 and 2012.

12-26-2012, 06:07 PM	#37
The_Order Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,870	Nadal's chances on winning a HC slam aren't as low as everyone thinks. He has the game to do it, Federer isn't really a danger to Rafa, Murray can beat Nadal but it depends on his form and unless Novak is in 2011 form again Rafa will have his chances against him as well. Now he's not going to need to go through all 3 of them. I'd say he'd have better chances at the AO than the US Open though because of the court. __________________ helloworld - "If Nadal wants to surpass Pete, he will need 34 slams, twice more than Federer to be in the same conversation with Sampras."

12-26-2012, 06:12 PM	#38
Candide Rookie Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Melbourne Posts: 306	I love that this thread is right next to the thread titled: "Everyone keeps forgetting NADALS INJURY!" Not as long as he keeps reminding everyone I guess. Ironical much? __________________ “There is no best. There is just the discussion of who is best. Federer, he will always be in the first part of such a discussion.” Rino Tommasi

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