Justin Gimelstob Says That Andy Murray is Not Elite Player.......

[jaggy]

I havent heard Wally Masur but thought he was a pretty solid pro.

[Lefty5]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Gimelstob is an overly verbose idiot and a detriment to the TC. Why they keep him on there is a mystery to me.

what he said

[BeGreat]

as much as i dislike murray's general disposition, gimbelstob is a nobody has-been. you don't criticize a slam winner and an olympic gold medalist unless you've won at least two slams yourself.

[Mainad]

I'm curious as to how Gimelstob defines what he means by ' an elite player' ?

Maybe only multi-Slam winners are 'elite players' in his book??

[Steve0904]

What I'm actually laughing at most in this thread is the OP who seems to be claiming that if you win OG you must be an elite player. Winning OG proves next to nothing in tennis in terms of being an elite player.

With this said, Gimelstob's statement is stupid in the extreme. Murray is an elite player in any rational persons mind. But I think he may have been comparing him to the other top 3 when he said it, although it is still stupid.

[Rob31]

At least, Gimelstob is completely right when he says that Murray can't hit a forehand DTL to save his life.

[veroniquem]

It all depends on how one defines "elite" level. If he means Murray is not among the all time greats yet, he's right. Neither is Delpo despite winning a slam. Still, Murray is one of the best players in today's tennis, everyone can see that.

[mental midget]

obviously, murray can hit a dtl fh but it's true that the shot isn't as natural for him as for a federer or djokovic. murray hits his forehand with a closed wrist most of the time, his natural contact point comes with the racket lined up with his forearm. great for cc fh, not so great when you have to lay the wrist back to take it dtl (in an open stance, at least) or inside out. usually you see this type of stroke on guys with eastern/continental forehands due to the natural wrist position, but for some reason it's how murray developed his fh.

of course it's hardly a 'weakness', he's a solid player on all counts, but this is a slight technical issue with his mechanics. like i said, he can do it, i've seen him rip more than a few inside-out fh's, but it's definitely not a shot that 'flows' for him like it does for roger, novak, nadal.

[West Coast Ace]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

Well, Gimelstob is wrong in his comment about Murray's eliteness but if Murray could hit a down the line forehand as well as anyone else in the top 8 he'd be a much harder player to beat. He may have even picked up a few more scalps of the top players on the big stages too.

That's how I took it; Murray, for whatever reasons - nerves or lack of confidence - doesn't trust the FH DTL on big points. JG should have said 'to consistently beat the elites, Murray needs to add this to his shot selection.' And he was absolutely right that it was the shot for that situation; Joker wasn't close to covering the line - and on a windy day throwing up a topspin lob was the last shot to try to pull off.

[tacou]

Muzza is clearly elite but Justin is right, you all need to lay off, he tries to hit a cross court forehand pass 90% of the time.

[TheF1Bob]

Murray isn't a aggressive player, hence the lack of FH down the line and when he does go for it, he makes more errors than winners.

The exho with Tipsy proves my point.

[dominikk1985]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQt-MuMkSa8

[DRII]

Originally Posted by TheF1Bob

Murray isn't a aggressive player, hence the lack of FH down the line and when he does go for it, he makes more errors than winners.

The exho with Tipsy proves my point.

Thats messed up that Murray had to even play the 1/4s. After Nadal pulled out he should have been placed directly in the semis (like Nole was)!

[ATP100]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Gimelstob is an overly verbose idiot and a detriment to the TC. Why they keep him on there is a mystery to me.

He helps create threads/marketing.

[Amelie Mauresmo]

I am not Murray fan but this is rich from a guy like Justin Gimelstob a player that amounted to virtually nothing in tennis. Justin's claim to fame is winning two mixed doubles grand slams with Venus Williams. I don't like it when former low ranked players like Gimelstob slam champions like Andy Murray. Gimelstob has a serious attitude problem, he reminds me of Patrick McEnroe two players who never amounted to nothing on the tennis court yet think they can diss a tennis champion. Gimbelstob doesn't have the credentials to slam Murray.

[nikdom]

I watched the same match on the Tennis channel and Wilander is commentating alongside Gimelstob and Shiras, and Wilander says "Murray's slice BH is more natural than Roger's". I'm like WTF??!

So I don't know who the bigger idiot is - Justin or Wilander. Gimelstob says things for the shock value and Wilander does it I think to suck up to the Brit crowd.

[Mainad]

Originally Posted by nikdom

I watched the same match on the Tennis channel and Wilander is commentating alongside Gimelstob and Shiras, and Wilander says "Murray's slice BH is more natural than Roger's". I'm like WTF??!

So I don't know who the bigger idiot is - Justin or Wilander. Gimelstob says things for the shock value and Wilander does it I think to suck up to the Brit crowd.

Well, given that the Slam H2H between them is Wilander 7-0 Gimelstob, I'm personally inclined to give Wilander's opinion just that little bit more weight!

[Retaliation]

You know what? Murray won a grand slam and a gold medal whereas Federer, Nadal, nor Djokovic did neither recently. His career is pointing upward, and I think that it's far too soon to say he's not an elite player. Claiming that he is, however, is also premature.

[monfed]

Originally Posted by TheF1Bob

Murray isn't a aggressive player, hence the lack of FH down the line and when he does go for it, he makes more errors than winners.

The exho with Tipsy proves my point.

I agree Murray doesn't like to pull the trigger. He prefers playing like his idol Ralph.

[augustobt]

Justin who?