New HEAD racquets 2013 ?!!! - Page 4

Bartelby · 01-04-2013, 01:40 PM

I don't think you're supposed to feel graphene as such - its a strength to weight material - but those who tried the prototype report a crisp but not too stiff feel. Yet the stiffness rating is 70 so that would be high.

If it doesn't feel like the ig line I would be disappointed.

Oz_Rocket · 01-04-2013, 01:59 PM

I like my current Speed IG MP but a bit more torsional stability on off centre shots would be nice. But one of the things I love about it as I'm getting older is that it is just soft enough without being mushy. So if they can give it a bit more stability/crispness without extra stiffness then that would be brilliant.

julian · 01-04-2013, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartelby

I don't think you're supposed to feel graphene as such - its a strength to weight material - but those who tried the prototype report a crisp but not too stiff feel. Yet the stiffness rating is 70 so that would be high.

If it doesn't feel like the ig line I would be disappointed.

Let me explain,please
One of my students is using a Head (Radical I believe).
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/head...ad-hytrmp.html
I believe TWISTWEIGHT of this particular racket is too low.
I am trying to check whether one of new rackets will be an improvement
on this subject.
I believe that the future REVIEWS will provide some numbers for TWISTWEIGHT.
I do NOT play Head and I have very small knowledge about Head rackets.

Bartelby · 01-04-2013, 02:09 PM

I rely on TW testing for swingweight, which will probably be published next weekend with the review.

julian · 01-04-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bartelby

I rely on TW testing for swingweight, which will probably be published next weekend with the review.

Thank you
It is true that TWISTWEIGHT shows up in one of boxes inside of the review,

dje31 · 01-08-2013, 12:31 PM

In case anyone's interested, the Graphene Speed and Instinct specs are also on Racquet Finder now.

The Instinct Rev looks like a potentially decent platform, as it's stupid light in stock form.

And can its stiffness really be as low as 59? Gotta be a typo...I'd guess that should read 69, given where all the others lie.

Not crazy about the 3pts HH balance, but a leather grip and some well-placed lead tape could work wonders.

mrmo1115 · 01-08-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Oz_Rocket

I like my current Speed IG MP but a bit more torsional stability on off centre shots would be nice. But one of the things I love about it as I'm getting older is that it is just soft enough without being mushy. So if they can give it a bit more stability/crispness without extra stiffness then that would be brilliant.

Looks like the stiffness went up for the new Speed, but they did try to give it more stability/crispness. Let's see how it plays.

vetinari · 01-08-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by julian

Hi,
couple of simple questions
How do you know that torsional stability got IMPROVED?
Do you know numbers for TWISTWEIGHT
Did you practice returns of serve?
What is "graphene speed"?

I don't know the number for the twistweight. I played several sets and had a couple lessons using the new version of the speed and based on those 3-4 sets there was more torsional stability subjectively. I have been playing with the IG speed 18x20 and one of the things that bothers me about it is the feeling of more shock to my arm on off center hits and a sensation that the racquet is twisting in my hand. This is what I have termed torsional instability. I did not experience that with the new version of the speed.

Return of serve was great -- very maneuverable and solid. Again an improvement over the ig speed in my hands.

graphene speed -- may not be the official term, but what I was using to differentiate the new version with graphene from the older ig containing version

corners · 01-08-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by julian

Thank you
It is true that TWISTWEIGHT shows up in one of boxes inside of the review,

No, twistweight shows up in the little boxes next to the picture of the racquets on this page, which I linked for you in another thread two weeks ago: http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/lear...r/contours.php

The TW Professor has been very fast recently, so these new racquets might show up in that tool very soon after they go up for sale.

vetinari · 01-08-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dje31

Shouldn't the new Graphene Speed and Instinct racquets be just about ready for pre-order by now? Or do we have to wait for the dumb countdown to end on 2013.01.11, then wait some more?

Based on my conversations with my local shop the day it gets announced it will be immediately available. No pre sale. But I have no official information.

vetinari · 01-08-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by srvnvly

My apologies if you've already commented on this, but how is the new Instinct better than the current IG model? It looks like the same weight and balance. Thanks!

Sorry. Not that familiar with the current gen (IG) instinct.

West Coast Ace · 01-11-2013, 05:51 PM

Ok. So today was the big Launch Day for the Snowshoes... oops, Speeds/Instincts with graphene.

Does anyone know when the Prestige Mid (or even Radicals) will get the treatment? I didn't have any luck with Google - he referred me back to this thread. I can understand Head wanting to space out their launches to get more buzz.

PhotoBlue · 01-11-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by West Coast Ace

Ok. So today was the big Launch Day for the Snowshoes... oops, Speeds/Instincts with graphene.

Does anyone know when the Prestige Mid (or even Radicals) will get the treatment? I didn't have any luck with Google - he referred me back to this thread. I can understand Head wanting to space out their launches to get more buzz.

Probably radicals and prestiges will be upgraded jan 2014.

klementine79 · 01-11-2013, 06:32 PM

The prestiges will definitely be jan. 2014. The rads could be out by summer time if past launch dates are referenced.

West Coast Ace · 01-11-2013, 08:07 PM

^^^ Thank you.

klementine79 · 01-12-2013, 06:45 AM

^My bad. they haven't released radicals in the summer time since the MicroGels. So photoblue is correct, Jan.2014 it is for both Prestiges and Rads.

PhotoBlue · 01-17-2013, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by klementine79

^My bad. they haven't released radicals in the summer time since the MicroGels. So photoblue is correct, Jan.2014 it is for both Prestiges and Rads.

I hope I'm not correct though... I want new radicals!!!

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West Coast Ace Legend Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 9,346	Ok. So today was the big Launch Day for the Snowshoes... oops, Speeds/Instincts with graphene. Does anyone know when the Prestige Mid (or even Radicals) will get the treatment? I didn't have any luck with Google - he referred me back to this thread. I can understand Head wanting to space out their launches to get more buzz. __________________ "I jump in it!" Russian Billionaire, DirecTV Commercial...

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klementine79 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: DcMdVa Posts: 3,651	The prestiges will definitely be jan. 2014. The rads could be out by summer time if past launch dates are referenced. __________________ Tommy Haasian GOATmode* * = FedK (tm)

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West Coast Ace Legend Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 9,346	^^^ Thank you. __________________ "I jump in it!" Russian Billionaire, DirecTV Commercial...

01-12-2013, 06:45 AM	#76
klementine79 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: DcMdVa Posts: 3,651	^My bad. they haven't released radicals in the summer time since the MicroGels. So photoblue is correct, Jan.2014 it is for both Prestiges and Rads. __________________ Tommy Haasian GOATmode* * = FedK (tm)

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