Here is how to WIN in every match, yes I'm serious

[tennis_balla]

By the way, you still have not answered my question as to where you've come to all these conclusion about coaches not teaching the right way and not being creative? Have you studied methods, taken on-court certification courses, watched multi-national coaches teach young juniors, traveled around training centres seeing first hand whats being taught etc?

[sundaypunch]

Originally Posted by tennis_balla

By the way, you still have not answered my question as to where you've come to all these conclusion about coaches not teaching the right way and not being creative? Have you studied methods, taken on-court certification courses, watched multi-national coaches teach young juniors, traveled around training centres seeing first hand whats being taught etc?

Haven't you read Mick3391's posts in other threads? He was a child prodigy. He just came back to tennis after a 15-year absence and currently plays at a 6.0 level at age 38. Do you really think you should be questioning his ability?

[5263]

Originally Posted by Mick3391

You miss the entire point, I don't CARE what so called "Academics" and others theorize, if you can play at the net I'll kill you, simply as that. Don't train at mid-court, I'll kill you, and baseline is simplest of all!

So just because the game today is baseline doesn't mean it's right, you'll see next S&V who comes into the game, what are you going to do with your stats then?

What kind of game can avoid you killing them?

So I guess you enjoyed "the inner game of tennis" by Galloway?

[tennis_balla]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gZ6-6RbSEg

[5263]

Originally Posted by tennis_balla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gZ6-6RbSEg

too funny, thanks for the link.
Sort of like in Stripes..."you touch my stuff..I will....."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPGq-N_6GM8

[tennis_balla]

Lighten up Francis

[Ash_Smith]

Originally Posted by Mick3391

I play with people like you on the courts, you have no idea how to deal with a short side spin shot, hard low left angled shot, no clue!

You've seen Balla hit right? Because, you know, he's pretty good!

Oh, and what about when you play people like me, who know exactly how to deal with a short sidespin shot or a "low left angled shot"?

[5263]

Originally Posted by Ash_Smith

You've seen Balla hit right? Because, you know, he's pretty good!

Oh, and what about when you play people like me, who know exactly how to deal with a short sidespin shot or a "low left angled shot"?

Ash,
this guy kills 5.5s, don't you get it?

[Ash_Smith]

^^^ Cool - me too! Either this dude is Fabrice Santoro or he's delusional!

[tennis_balla]

Ash, his 12 year old son will take you out as well, with a "drop shot barely over the net off your hard shot, landing and spinning 3 feet to your left."

[Ash_Smith]

^^^yeah, i'm looking forward to that one. In fairness, if his kid can hit drop shots barely over the net off a baseline "trading ball" from a top level player then he's destined for the pro's! Or he's like one of those football (soccer to those over the pond!) skills guys, who can do all the keepie-uppies in the world but can't actually play football!

[sundaypunch]

Do you guys realize that they recently legalized marijuana in Washington state?

[tennis_balla]

Whats going on here, thread died and OP ran away!

[rkelley]

Originally Posted by MarinaHighTennis

I have to say he has a point. Players my age and younger lose to older guys who love to hack, slick, lob (constantly), super good defense, volley, etc. because the shot difference mixes them up. I get really close sets with my uncle for that reason bc while I'm slamming them corner to corner, he pops a super high lob on the baseline. He doesn't do it all the time but only when on the defense. Its a good strategy that I hope to incorporate into my game. The OLD MAN's GAME! lolol

The general gist of Mick's post seems like "one should be able to volley." OK, I'll agree with that. But I don't think this is a modern/traditional game thing. When I was playing 3.5 (C) tournaments in N. California in the late 80's most players couldn't volley, or S&V - even in doubles.

When I started playing back in the age of wood racquets I hated volleying. I learned to volley because I had this huge serve (relative to my peers at the time) that would generate these weak returns that I was unable to use to my advantage because I was standing back at the baseline. So I learned. Eventally I figured out that I could beat people like your uncle just by going McEnroe on them. You didn't have to volley very well, you just had to go up to the net, stick your racquet out, and angle off the slowish, no pace balls. An overhead took care of the lobbing.

I'm older now but I play at a significantly higher level than I did when I was younger. I think Balla's comment is right on for today's game. When someone can stand on the baseline and using modern technique rip a 70 mph forehand dtl off a decent low and deep approach, it gets a bit daunting to keep coming in. You have to pick and choose much more wisely than in the past. I often go for a lot more on my approach then I used to - using modern technique - to mostly win the point with that shot as opposed to letting the volley win the point. I've also found that because I'm willing to hit big from mid court it sets up more traditional approaches when I go that route. I still get my head ripped off some times.

So my take is that modern tennis does not mean there's no mid-court or net game. But one has to pick and choose their spots a bit more than in the past.

[rkelley]

Originally Posted by tennis_balla

Whats going on here, thread died and OP ran away!

Hey Balla, I'll take you on. I'll take Ash on too. You'll kill me. Understand? You'll both absolutely kill me!

Wait . . . that doesn't sound any where near as threatening.

[Ashley D]

Originally Posted by Mick3391

hate debating emotional women who can't use logic.

Wow Mick, you're arrogant, narcissistic, uneducated AND a mysogenist.

You've now taken the mantle as the biggest dusch on TT. Congrats, you've earned it.

The person I truly feel sorry for is your son.

[onehandbh]

Originally Posted by Mick3391

Look up Justin Bower, I can take him anytime I'm in shape, played him, he's nothing, just a relaxed baseliner, no heart, nothing, I use a smaller racquet, 90 than he does and I don't MISS!

I assume this is the Justin Bower you are referring to?
http://avtennis.com/trainers/justinbower.php

Did you beat him in a set? a match? tournament?

You sound like you might be one of the highest level players on TW.
I'll actually be in your neck of the woods in the Seattle/Bellevue area in
early July. Let's meet up for some tennis!

[tennis ratchet]

Originally Posted by onehandbh

I assume this is the Justin Bower you are referring to?
http://avtennis.com/trainers/justinbower.php

Did you beat him in a set? a match? tournament?

You sound like you might be one of the highest level players on TW.
I'll actually be in your neck of the woods in the Seattle/Bellevue area in
early July. Let's meet up for some tennis!

i honestly don't understand why people feel the need to boast on the internet..a former atp pro was nice enough to play with the guy, and now according to this guy he is 'nothing'. i don't blame you for getting irritated.

[onehandbh]

Originally Posted by tennis ratchet

i honestly don't understand why people feel the need to boast on the internet..a former atp pro was nice enough to play with the guy, and now according to this guy he is 'nothing'. i don't blame you for getting irritated.

I'm not the least bit irritated. Just looking for good players to hit with
when I visit the Seattle/Bellevue area.

[The Meat]

At the 4.5 level and below, you can play a very stamina based pushing style and win a majority of your matches. True story.