****the Pure Storm LTD Support Group****

[Volley123]

Originally Posted by TimothyO

That's especially true between the Tour and baseline PSGT. One can easily mod the PSGT to work like the Tour.

But there is a big difference between the LTD and Tour with the main differnces being head size and string pattern. Those two factors combined along with lower flex make the LTD much lower powered than the Tour.

The Tour's balance and SW also make it more powerful and slightly less maneuverable than the LTD (but still a low powerd frame compared to others!)

Both are precise with the edge to the LTD.

So you're right because we're talking very fine shades of gray.

In order of control to power...

1. pure storm LTD GT

2. Pure storm GT

3. Pure storm tour GT

...but all are very control oriented and low powered compared to many other frames. And all over excellent spin access for different reasons.

Having owned the PSLGT and PSGT, and having demo'd the tour extensively I would recommend the PSGT as a great middle ground for customization but would NOT recommend it in stock form. In fact, of the three, I found the PSGT demo very weak.

If you don't want to mod and want more precision at a cost in power go with the PSLGT, more power at the cost of maneuverability then the Tour.

I should be getting my PSGT on Thursday. I wanted to bring the weight to approximately 11.5 oz yet maintain the balance to its current specs. I also ordered the Babolat lead tape. Question: 1. Is the 1/2" going to be too wide and can I cut it down the middle? 2. where would I place the tape in order to maintain the balance and does it go on the outside of the hoop?3. Will the tape peel off any paint if I remove it ?
As you can see I a noob to this customization stuff. Thanks

[babolat king]

Originally Posted by Volley123

I should be getting my PSGT on Thursday. I wanted to bring the weight to approximately 11.5 oz yet maintain the balance to its current specs. I also ordered the Babolat lead tape. Question: 1. Is the 1/2" going to be too wide and can I cut it down the middle? 2. where would I place the tape in order to maintain the balance and does it go on the outside of the hoop?3. Will the tape peel off any paint if I remove it ?
As you can see I a noob to this customization stuff. Thanks

The best thing for the 1/2 inch tape is to take off the grommets, get the tape measure to your liking, place tape in the center over the grommet hole, best at 3 & 9 (wont really mess up balance), poke holes in the tape were grommets go, reinstall grommets. It looks better that way.

Place the lead on the inside of the hoop, like I said, best at 3 & 9 for same balance. Will also help torsional stability, which is huge with those racquets.

I had the PSGT for a long time and found that 1/4 lead tape is a better fit and easy to install and remove.

To remove, use a hair dryer. Go over the lead about 60 seconds and it will come off with no paint removal.

Enjoy the sticks, they are great with a poly, syn gut hybrid also.

[Volley123]

Originally Posted by babolat king

The best thing for the 1/2 inch tape is to take off the grommets, get the tape measure to your liking, place tape in the center over the grommet hole, best at 3 & 9 (wont really mess up balance), poke holes in the tape were grommets go, reinstall grommets. It looks better that way.

Place the lead on the inside of the hoop, like I said, best at 3 & 9 for same balance. Will also help torsional stability, which is huge with those racquets.

I had the PSGT for a long time and found that 1/4 lead tape is a better fit and easy to install and remove.

To remove, use a hair dryer. Go over the lead about 60 seconds and it will come off with no paint removal.

Enjoy the sticks, they are great with a poly, syn gut hybrid also.

Thanks. I actually got mine with a full bed of multi (Addiction) @57lbs, because of the comfort factor. So how may gms of lead should I add at the 3 and 9 not to make it HH?

[babolat king]

Originally Posted by Volley123

Thanks. I actually got mine with a full bed of multi (Addiction) @57lbs, because of the comfort factor. So how may gms of lead should I add at the 3 and 9 not to make it HH?

Well PSGTs are only 1 pt HL, so you will have to check it out on TW racquet customization chart.

For me, I added 4 grams at 3 & 9 and loved the plow through. It was a little more HH but not considerability.

Depending on your level, I think 4 grams is a good place to start.

[Volley123]

Thanks and welcome

[phishbiscuits]

After 14 or so frames, I finally found the PSL to be the ideal choice for me. I tend to overhit with lighter frames (switched from customized Mantis Tour 305).

3 X Pure Storm Ltd with hybrid bed: Mains = Babalot VS; Crosses = Babalot Revenge (red) - 58/56 lbs.

Enjoy...

[ASH1485]

any difference between the new PSGT ltd and the 2009 PSGT ltd???

exactly the same specs but the 2009 is 100$ cheaper ... why would anyone buy the new model now ? very similar cosmetics also ...

[maxpower]

I have been using the psl since 2008. I have felt improvements in my game over the years. However in the past month I have felt like I have taken a large step in my game.

I'm not sure what I can attribute it to. I feel like my last string job is the main change in anything I normally do. I accidentally measured out and cut synthetic gut instead of poly for the mains so I just went ahead and strung it full synthetic gut. But I used 2 different strings..gamma challenger 17g for the mains and Wilson stamina 17g for the crosses.

In the past year I bought a pair of Dunlop aerogel 4d 200 and while I do like them, my PSLs are still my goto stick.

I initially played it stock but eventually added lead. This helped me advance my game. But after maybe a year I decided to go back to stock. I even went as far as ditching the over grip in favor of the bare leather grip. I also replaced my dampener with a rubber band to get the PSL as close to original specs as possible. Again I made improvements in my game.

I've been reading this thread for a few years...I hope the live for this racquet continues...

[LanEvo]

Hey guys, just picked up a pair of these a couple weeks back. I need some advice on strings now. Man, this thing is low powered, coming from a PDR, but I feel these frames will really bring me up to the next level. I really enjoy it though, it gives me good control and nice feel. Currently, it has some full poly in the high 50s I would say, plays very boardy and low-powered. Any suggested string setups to open up the sweetspot and add more power? Maybe a full multi.? Or a hybrid?

[KenC]

Originally Posted by LanEvo

...Currently, it has some full poly in the high 50s I would say, plays very boardy and low-powered. Any suggested string setups to open up the sweetspot and add more power? Maybe a full multi.? Or a hybrid?

The PSLGT is an old school type racquet and needs old school type strings.

If you are not a chronic string breaker I would definitely put in a set of VS Touch at around 55 lbs or 25kg. You may be able to go lower. Watch the racquet come to life and play like a dream. You get much more power without sacrificing control. With gut you don't have to worry about your strings dying and can play for months with a responsive stringbed.

If that is too expensive, I would put in a full set of a quality multi, like TF NRG2 or Bab's XCel Premium. Problem is that they die over time and have to be cut out and replaced. This is why gut is better and actually more economical to those who are not chronic string breakers.

I break strings like it was my job, so I can't use gut or a premium multi. I recently found a string that offers good performance at a low cost and has impressive durability: Prince Premier Attack.

Anyway, you will have to ditch the poly strings unless you use a high quality one at lower tensions and restring it like every 6-8 hours of play. Think of the PSLGT as a modern ProStaff 85. It needs gut or gut-like strings to play its best.

[LanEvo]

Originally Posted by KenC

The PSLGT is an old school type racquet and needs old school type strings.

If you are not a chronic string breaker I would definitely put in a set of VS Touch at around 55 lbs or 25kg. You may be able to go lower. Watch the racquet come to life and play like a dream. You get much more power without sacrificing control. With gut you don't have to worry about your strings dying and can play for months with a responsive stringbed.

If that is too expensive, I would put in a full set of a quality multi, like TF NRG2 or Bab's XCel Premium. Problem is that they die over time and have to be cut out and replaced. This is why gut is better and actually more economical to those who are not chronic string breakers.

I break strings like it was my job, so I can't use gut or a premium multi. I recently found a string that offers good performance at a low cost and has impressive durability: Prince Premier Attack.

Anyway, you will have to ditch the poly strings unless you use a high quality one at lower tensions and restring it like every 6-8 hours of play. Think of the PSLGT as a modern ProStaff 85. It needs gut or gut-like strings to play its best.

How about the cheaper gut? Like the $30 packs on TW? Would those be ok? I am not a stringer breaker by any means, hit a flat game. Like Klip Legend?

Kind of sucks too, I spent my last set of NRG2 on my PDR right before I got this pair...

I still have a couple sets of NXT and Donnay Multi. though, think those would work?

[AYone]

Does anyone string their PS Ltds at 50 or lower tension? If so, what strings and what's your observations in the playage with that setup? Sorry if already stated here, too much backreading.

I've tried with RPM 16 at 58 and it played well for a few sets then went dead and everything sailed. I've also tried with NRG 18 at 58-59, which played pretty well. I'm eager to go pretty low with a thin multi and try to increase dwell time, but worried about control and sailing factor. Please let me know your views. Thank you.

[Fuji]

Originally Posted by AYone

Does anyone string their PS Ltds at 50 or lower tension? If so, what strings and what's your observations in the playage with that setup? Sorry if already stated here, too much backreading.

I've tried with RPM 16 at 58 and it played well for a few sets then went dead and everything sailed. I've also tried with NRG 18 at 58-59, which played pretty well. I'm eager to go pretty low with a thin multi and try to increase dwell time, but worried about control and sailing factor. Please let me know your views. Thank you.

You're stringing waaaaaay too tight, especially with something like RPM. I've screwed around with a lot of set ups in the PSL over the past few years, and usually with poly I'm stringing high 40's. It still provides the crispness that I want from a poly, but doesn't feel totally dead outside the sweet spot.

With a nice multi like NRG, I can totally see that you like higher tensions however. I'd definitely drop down to around 52-54 and see if you like that though. It would for sure increase the dwell time. The issue with using thin gauge string however, is the sailing issue I find prevalent with 18g string. Hence why I try to stick to 17g in a 18x20's.

-Fuji

[KenC]

Originally Posted by LanEvo

How about the cheaper gut? Like the $30 packs on TW? Would those be ok? I am not a stringer breaker by any means, hit a flat game. Like Klip Legend?

Kind of sucks too, I spent my last set of NRG2 on my PDR right before I got this pair...

I still have a couple sets of NXT and Donnay Multi. though, think those would work?

The best thing for you as a non string breaker is to eventually put in a good quality gut and play with them until they break. You can try the cheaper guts but they might not be the same quality as VS and thus last less. You might just get the biggest bang for your buck with VS as it is very durable.

Why not put the NXT or Donnay strings in? Maybe go for about 52-53 lbs and see how they play. Over time when they start to behave strangely cut them out.

Originally Posted by AYone

Does anyone string their PS Ltds at 50 or lower tension? If so, what strings and what's your observations in the playage with that setup? Sorry if already stated here, too much backreading.

I've tried with RPM 16 at 58 and it played well for a few sets then went dead and everything sailed. I've also tried with NRG 18 at 58-59, which played pretty well. I'm eager to go pretty low with a thin multi and try to increase dwell time, but worried about control and sailing factor. Please let me know your views. Thank you.

I used a full multi at 50/48 with the PSLGT. Great control, more power, very arm friendly.

[IA-SteveB]

I have been using this racquet for a few weeks now after playing with a 2012 Pure Drive. I felt the PD was a nice racquet, but with my unrefined strokes it was really limiting my game because I felt gunshy with it. The Pure Storm GT LTD changed my game for the better because I am able to take full swings and still keep the ball in between the lines for the most part. Maybe this racquet will help me develop my strokes better. The only problem I have is having diminished pace with my one handed backhand, which can be quite a challenge when having to use it on the run.

Mine is strung at 56 pounds with Technifibre X1

[LanEvo]

Originally Posted by KenC

The best thing for you as a non string breaker is to eventually put in a good quality gut and play with them until they break. You can try the cheaper guts but they might not be the same quality as VS and thus last less. You might just get the biggest bang for your buck with VS as it is very durable.

Why not put the NXT or Donnay strings in? Maybe go for about 52-53 lbs and see how they play. Over time when they start to behave strangely cut them out.




I used a full multi at 50/48 with the PSLGT. Great control, more power, very arm friendly.

Alright, I will give that a try, if not, I was checking the Strings section and people have said a regular Syn. Gut such as PSGD works well as well. I plan in stringing at or below 50 anyway.

[LanEvo]

Originally Posted by IA-SteveB

I have been using this racquet for a few weeks now after playing with a 2012 Pure Drive. I felt the PD was a nice racquet, but with my unrefined strokes it was really limiting my game because I felt gunshy with it. The Pure Storm GT LTD changed my game for the better because I am able to take full swings and still keep the ball in between the lines for the most part. Maybe this racquet will help me develop my strokes better. The only problem I have is having diminished pace with my one handed backhand, which can be quite a challenge when having to use it on the run.

Mine is strung at 56 pounds with Technifibr X1

I am in a similar sense as well, except I want to improve my game with the frame. I feel that the PDRs deso all the work for me, given its power and larger sweet spot, it works too well such that now I have lazy footwork, lazy strokes and everything bc it is such as frame that allows me to keep the ball in play as long as I run around and just swing at the ball.

[AYone]

Thanks guys. Going to give it a shot with a lower tension and see how that works. Also was wondering if anyone plays with this stick with a two-handed backhand? I feel like it was born for one-handers. I have historically used one hand, but in league play this year experienced difficulty handling powerful shots to my backhand and hitting with consistency.

[LanEvo]

Originally Posted by AYone

Thanks guys. Going to give it a shot with a lower tension and see how that works. Also was wondering if anyone plays with this stick with a two-handed backhand? I feel like it was born for one-handers. I have historically used one hand, but in league play this year experienced difficulty handling powerful shots to my backhand and hitting with consistency.

I have a friend who uses this frame and has a 2hbh, he does just fine with it. We are all around 4.0s.

[Fuji]

Originally Posted by AYone

Thanks guys. Going to give it a shot with a lower tension and see how that works. Also was wondering if anyone plays with this stick with a two-handed backhand? I feel like it was born for one-handers. I have historically used one hand, but in league play this year experienced difficulty handling powerful shots to my backhand and hitting with consistency.

I hit a pretty monstrous 2HBH and I find this frame likes it a lot. I can hit really clean, powerful shots with it. I play at high 4.5.

-Fuji