Best Value in Racquets....

[El Zed]

Originally Posted by T.P3D0R

Similar for the other Dunlop models? After playing 300T stock, I never felt the need to lead it up... I just didn't like it all that much. I'm definitely trying to find a cheap pair of sticks right now, and Dunlops are pretty inexpensive, but I don't foresee myself giving them another shot.

What exactly do you feel that the 300Ts were missing?

[Fuji]

Originally Posted by T.P3D0R

Similar for the other Dunlop models? After playing 300T stock, I never felt the need to lead it up... I just didn't like it all that much. I'm definitely trying to find a cheap pair of sticks right now, and Dunlops are pretty inexpensive, but I don't foresee myself giving them another shot.

Well the 200 Series is absolutely magical no matter what Paintjob you get it in. They are just sweet frames that hit monstrously heavy balls. I still have a pair of Bio200's that I adore as they serve the biggest I possibly can.

As for any other the other models, I really can't advise you haha!

-Fuji

[El Zed]

Originally Posted by Fuji

Well the 200 Series is absolutely magical no matter what Paintjob you get it in. They are just sweet frames that hit monstrously heavy balls. I still have a pair of Bio200's that I adore as they serve the biggest I possibly can.

As for any other the other models, I really can't advise you haha!

-Fuji

Fuji - just the 200 or the 200 Tour as well? Given your affinity to the PT280, how do they match up?

[Fuji]

Originally Posted by El Zed

Fuji - just the 200 or the 200 Tour as well? Given your affinity to the PT280, how do they match up?

I've hit both. I prefer the 200 just because I like dense patterns as string breaking is an issue for me. The 200 actually has almost near IDENTICAL spec to the PT630 (at least the Bio200 does) which makes it super nice hitting. The thing is though, that it swings ridiculously fast. Honestly for it being over 12.0oz it swings like a APD. I don't know why, but it just cuts through the air so it makes it able to hit some monster shots. Massive power off the ground. I normally string them with full poly ( Head Sonic Pro is what Timbo got me hooked on in these frames...)

The 200 Tour is a different beast. It plays a lot similar to the 6.1 95 series from Wilson IMO, just with a bit beefier stock weight. Really smooth hitting stick, I just never gelled with it as much as the reg 200. The issue again is the 16x18 pattern though. It feels so wide open that because of all the free power from the weight of the stroke, I never got comfortable really letting my forehands fly. That's my own mental capacity, and really nothing against the frame.

Let me know if you have anymore questions! I'd be more then happy to try and answer.

-Fuji

[El Zed]

Originally Posted by Fuji

I've hit both. I prefer the 200 just because I like dense patterns as string breaking is an issue for me. The 200 actually has almost near IDENTICAL spec to the PT630 (at least the Bio200 does) which makes it super nice hitting. The thing is though, that it swings ridiculously fast. Honestly for it being over 12.0oz it swings like a APD. I don't know why, but it just cuts through the air so it makes it able to hit some monster shots. Massive power off the ground. I normally string them with full poly ( Head Sonic Pro is what Timbo got me hooked on in these frames...)

The 200 Tour is a different beast. It plays a lot similar to the 6.1 95 series from Wilson IMO, just with a bit beefier stock weight. Really smooth hitting stick, I just never gelled with it as much as the reg 200. The issue again is the 16x18 pattern though. It feels so wide open that because of all the free power from the weight of the stroke, I never got comfortable really letting my forehands fly. That's my own mental capacity, and really nothing against the frame.

Let me know if you have anymore questions! I'd be more then happy to try and answer.

-Fuji

And the feel... ?

Thanks again, Fuji!

[Fuji]

Originally Posted by El Zed

And the feel... ?

Thanks again, Fuji!

If I'm being completely honest, it's a toss up between the two for me. The Bio200 feels like the modern update to the PT630, which I know might be Heracy for some to hear. The feeling isn't neart as "pure" in the dead center, but the feel outside the sweet spot is where the 200 wins. I don't hit dead center all the time, and shanks with the PT630 actually bother both my elbows quite a bit. The 200 shanks are 100% fine in my elbows book, even with poly. It's weird that it happens like that, but with the PT630, outside the sweet spot it just really isn't that forgiving and good feeling on my arms. (That being said, I can use a PDR+ string with full poly and my elbows are fine too...)

You're most welcome though! Always happy to share some of my knowledge!

-Fuji

[Power Player]

Like fuji says, the dunlop 200 series is awesome if you like the pt630. I have an mfil 200 and it is a butter stick. Feels so nice.

[dgoran]

Originally Posted by Fuji

If I'm being completely honest, it's a toss up between the two for me. The Bio200 feels like the modern update to the PT630, which I know might be Heracy for some to hear. The feeling isn't neart as "pure" in the dead center, but the feel outside the sweet spot is where the 200 wins. I don't hit dead center all the time, and shanks with the PT630 actually bother both my elbows quite a bit. The 200 shanks are 100% fine in my elbows book, even with poly. It's weird that it happens like that, but with the PT630, outside the sweet spot it just really isn't that forgiving and good feeling on my arms. (That being said, I can use a PDR+ string with full poly and my elbows are fine too...)

You're most welcome though! Always happy to share some of my knowledge!

-Fuji

Funny how this is the same game we play but our individual views can be so drastically different. Pt630 is THE most forgiving racket for miss hits I have EVER tried and I tried a lot. I have yet to find a racquet that either does not sound hollow or dead or stiff towards the tip all of which bother me. Close second is ig radical pro but its little hollow in comparison to pt630 and its 1619 another thing that bothers me I find 0 (zero) shock on miss hits with pt

[El Zed]

Originally Posted by dgoran

Funny how this is the same game we play but our individual views can be so drastically different. Pt630 is THE most forgiving racket for miss hits I have EVER tried and I tried a lot. I have yet to find a racquet that either does not sound hollow or dead or stiff towards the tip all of which bother me. Close second is ig radical pro but its little hollow in comparison to pt630 and its 1619 another thing that bothers me I find 0 (zero) shock on miss hits with pt

Hi, Dgoran - have you also tried the 200s?

[El Zed]

Originally Posted by Fuji

If I'm being completely honest, it's a toss up between the two for me. The Bio200 feels like the modern update to the PT630, which I know might be Heracy for some to hear. The feeling isn't neart as "pure" in the dead center, but the feel outside the sweet spot is where the 200 wins. I don't hit dead center all the time, and shanks with the PT630 actually bother both my elbows quite a bit. The 200 shanks are 100% fine in my elbows book, even with poly. It's weird that it happens like that, but with the PT630, outside the sweet spot it just really isn't that forgiving and good feeling on my arms. (That being said, I can use a PDR+ string with full poly and my elbows are fine too...)

You're most welcome though! Always happy to share some of my knowledge!

-Fuji

Fuji - you have to try a Fischer Vacuum 90... talk about cutting through the air quickly! That racquet made the APDGt feel clunky. Flip side though, you REALLY have to generate your own power, the top hoop issue and it does nothing to "help" spin.

Speaking of which, are you a windshield wiper/western grip guy?

You have me intrigued with the Dunlop 200 - but here's the thing, and back to my original question, wouldn't a PT280 be preferable to the Bio200 (with the former actually being usually cheaper)? Thanks again, man.

[El Zed]

Originally Posted by Power Player

Like fuji says, the dunlop 200 series is awesome if you like the pt630. I have an mfil 200 and it is a butter stick. Feels so nice.

Noticed your post about going back to the mfil 200 due to a poly issue - maybe a change back from the blade?

[Fuji]

Originally Posted by El Zed

Fuji - you have to try a Fischer Vacuum 90... talk about cutting through the air quickly! That racquet made the APDGt feel clunky. Flip side though, you REALLY have to generate your own power, the top hoop issue and it does nothing to "help" spin.

Speaking of which, are you a windshield wiper/western grip guy?

You have me intrigued with the Dunlop 200 - but here's the thing, and back to my original question, wouldn't a PT280 be preferable to the Bio200 (with the former actually being usually cheaper)? Thanks again, man.

Haha I've always wanted to try the 90 actually! I just never got around to really looking for one! It sounds like a fun frame!

Normally I hit WW forehands with a semi western grip, but I do go full eastern for blocking back big shots and to flatten out winners!

Oh for sure! If you can get PT280's for cheaper then 200's, by all means go for it. I won't argue that it's the better frame, since hitting the sweet spot for me is probably the best feeling ever haha! The issue becomes getting a few of the same stick. I have a single PT630, and I never use it for anything serious because I don't care for switching frames in the middle of a match. The 200 series is just really readily available, and at dirt cheap prices used. So it's easy to stock up on a pair/trio or more for realistically cheap.

-Fuji

[Fuji]

Originally Posted by dgoran

Funny how this is the same game we play but our individual views can be so drastically different. Pt630 is THE most forgiving racket for miss hits I have EVER tried and I tried a lot. I have yet to find a racquet that either does not sound hollow or dead or stiff towards the tip all of which bother me. Close second is ig radical pro but its little hollow in comparison to pt630 and its 1619 another thing that bothers me I find 0 (zero) shock on miss hits with pt

Haha see, that's what I was looking for in the PT630! Maybe I got a dud frame, because I definitely have a lot of shock on mishits.

That being said, I can't use wood rackets at all. The low flex absolutely kills my arms!

-Fuji

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by El Zed

Noticed your post about going back to the mfil 200 due to a poly issue - maybe a change back from the blade?

Nope. But I like my Mfil. I have had i for 4 years. It is a great stick.

[T.P3D0R]

Originally Posted by Power Player

Nope. But I like my Mfil. I have had i for 4 years. It is a great stick.

Which blade are you using?

I'm so tempted to buy a pair of pink blades due to price. What a deal with only one major pitfall...

They are pink

[El Zed]

Originally Posted by T.P3D0R

Which blade are you using?

I'm so tempted to buy a pair of pink blades due to price. What a deal with only one major pitfall...

They are pink

Come on, the pink is cool in a mid-80s Agassi/Miami Vice way!

[T.P3D0R]

Originally Posted by El Zed

Come on, the pink is cool in a mid-80s Agassi/Miami Vice way!

I'm not sure if I can agree with that statement...

I could deal with some pink highlights here and there... but the blade is probably in the range of 30-40% pink.

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by T.P3D0R

Which blade are you using?

I'm so tempted to buy a pair of pink blades due to price. What a deal with only one major pitfall...

They are pink

Same blade, just the gold one. I have 2 and 1 mfil 200 in the bag as well.

[El Zed]

Originally Posted by Fuji

Haha I've always wanted to try the 90 actually! I just never got around to really looking for one! It sounds like a fun frame!

Normally I hit WW forehands with a semi western grip, but I do go full eastern for blocking back big shots and to flatten out winners!

Oh for sure! If you can get PT280's for cheaper then 200's, by all means go for it. I won't argue that it's the better frame, since hitting the sweet spot for me is probably the best feeling ever haha! The issue becomes getting a few of the same stick. I have a single PT630, and I never use it for anything serious because I don't care for switching frames in the middle of a match. The 200 series is just really readily available, and at dirt cheap prices used. So it's easy to stock up on a pair/trio or more for realistically cheap.

-Fuji

The PV90 was a cool frame and I can understand the high regarded afforded to it - but, man, couldn't wait to sell the two that I picked a while ago and was thrilled when I did. Given your style of play, I'd probably avoid the idea of purchasing it, but definitely try it if you get the chance. Alas, not a "value" stick - at least subjectively.

[El Zed]

Originally Posted by T.P3D0R

I'm not sure if I can agree with that statement...

I could deal with some pink highlights here and there... but the blade is probably in the range of 30-40% pink.

Well perhaps they can serve as your impetus for trying custom paint jobs...