Robin Soderling: "If no comeback in 2013, then I do not know...."

[smoledman]

Let's face it, he's retired.

[joeri888]

Its Sad. He and jmdp should have been the players That kept it from being just a top 4 and being really in between Along with Ferrer. Too bad They both got injured.

[Jeffrey573639]

Don't write off Delpo just yet but I think irregardless of if Soderling recovers enough to play tennis (at a decent age), I think this is it for his career at the top.

[joeri888]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey573639

Don't write off Delpo just yet but I think irregardless of if Soderling recovers enough to play tennis (at a decent age), I think this is it for his career at the top.

I certainly don't. Just saying that the last few years were pretty top 4 dominated. That's because they are extremely good, but also because two of the most important challengers were injured a lot. Soderling could challenge. Certainly on clay. I also wonder how he'd have done with the lighter balls at RG in 2011.

[reversef]

Originally Posted by joeri888

I certainly don't. Just saying that the last few years were pretty top 4 dominated. That's because they are extremely good, but also because two of the most important challengers were injured a lot. Soderling could challenge. Certainly on clay. I also wonder how he'd have done with the lighter balls at RG in 2011.

Who was injured or ill? Soderling is fine. It must be a silent ban or an excuse to not play. We have no proof that he's not fine and a tennis player is always presumed guilty until proven innocent.
Same for Del Potro. I didn't see the MRI, I was not there when he had surgery. His wrist was fine. It's just that he couldn't stand the pressure, he had some losses that damaged his confidence + he got caught by the anti-doping brigade. So, it took him a lot of time to come back.

[joeri888]

Originally Posted by reversef

Who was injured or ill? Soderling is fine. It must be a silent ban or an excuse to not play. We have no proof that he's not fine and a tennis player is always presumed guilty until proven innocent.
Same for Del Potro. I didn't see the MRI, I was not there when he had surgery. His wrist was fine. It's just that he couldn't stand the pressure, he had some losses that damaged his confidence + he got caught by the anti-doping brigade. So, it took him a lot of time to come back.

I see what you are doing. Just stop being butthurt about *******s already and don't lower yourself to that kind of levels. It doesnt matter whether he's injured or on a silent ban for my point either. My only point is that the domination of the big 4 was amplified by the ABSENCE of Del Potro and Soderling.

[reversef]

Originally Posted by joeri888

I see what you are doing. Just stop being butthurt about *******s already and don't lower yourself to that kind of levels. It doesnt matter whether he's injured or on a silent ban for my point either. My only point is that the domination of the big 4 was amplified by the ABSENCE of Del Potro and Soderling.

Of course, I believe they are injured/ill. Of course, you are right. If 2 of the best players are out of the game, it helps. At the same time, it's not so common that everyone feels fine at the same time.

[joeri888]

Originally Posted by reversef

Of course, I believe they are injured/ill. Of course, you are right. If 2 of the best players are out of the game, it helps. At the same time, it's not so common that everyone feels fine at the same time.

No, true. It just adds some perspective on the ridiculous top 4 domination. First Fed, than Fed/Rafa, then Fed/Raf/Djok/Mur dominated the game in an unprecedented way. I'm just wondering if things could have been different with a healthy Soderling and Delpo around. I'm really wondering whether Fed's age and Rafa's health will blow the field wide open or see us return to a top 2 domination like Rog/Raf.

Either way, it's a shame that Soderling is not around.

[Fiji]

He is truly missed. What a shame.

[borg number one]

I agree with many of the posters that have posted here. He's an exciting player and has a game that is quite different. It would be nice to have him back in the mix. I wish him a healthy recovery and hope he can continue his career on the ATP tour. If he does recover well, he should have some good years left. Hopefully his practices, endurance, recovery, etc. will keep improving.

[heninfan99]

I think his career will always be linked with Nadal in a few ways.
He's one of those impact players that can take out the very best players of a draw.

Hopefully he can come back.

[fedfan46]

this sucks. if i can forgive soderling for beating fed at the french in 08 or whenever it was, you know he must be a special player.

[SLD76]

Originally Posted by sbengte

Guessed as much, given the context. I really don't get what is with these tennis players and mono. Haven't heard any other sportspeople get it
Hope we don't have another Ancic like case here and Soderling does make a decent comeback.

It is really quite simple. EBV is one of those viruses that 90% of the population carries, however it rarely turns into a noticeable bout of glandular fever (Mononucleosis).

The thing is, athletes today are pushing themselves to the limit of the human body, with travelling, lack of sleep, time zone changes, practice schedules, etc.

We didn't see this because 30 years ago people didn't work even close to as hard and for such an extended period of time at the top of pro sports. Mono is merely the virus that tells you "I am doing too much". First year of University I was working while going to the gym 5 days a week and essentially working myself until I couldn't lift anymore (really stupid, I regret the mistakes I made so much as it has set me back 6 years physically, and I probably will never be the same) and I caught mono. I continued to work not knowing I had it, and was wondering why I was seeing stars and almost passing out. Sure enough they did tests and I had mono. I never really recovered and then ended up getting some other virus a year later and lost 20 pounds, which after 6 years I have just gained 10 of those back.

Obviously not everyone has such an extreme case as me, however it is more than conceivable in Soderling's case that he just isn't the same anymore - and at the pro tennis level, even 5% reduction in capability may be the difference between 10 and 50 in the world.

P.S I want to mention I wasn't really bed ridden except for the first 7 days, but I couldn't stay awake longer than 2 hours without feeling like I hadn't slept in 5 days. This really hinders the ability to train at the elite level, even if it is an extremely mild case - Roddick was never the same, Federers energy in 5 setters hasn't been the same arguably, and Soderling is completely finished.

And 2x P.S Mononucleosis is NOT BACTERIAL. The entire premise of a virus, and why they can be much more debilitating than bacteria is that there is no cure, and inherently they work much differently. While bacteria is a single identifiable force inside your body that can be targeted (antibiotics) a virus uses your own cells to replicate, thus it is much more complicated to create vaccine's and anti-viral drugs since the virus inherently inhabits your own cells - this is why HIV is incurable (at least right now).
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[sbengte]

^^^ Thanks for sharing that !

Originally Posted by SLD76

The thing is, athletes today are pushing themselves to the limit of the human body, with travelling, lack of sleep, time zone changes, practice schedules, etc.

Yes, I get that part. What I don't get is why don't we see athletes from other sports also get it assuming they work equally hard. Unless we accept that tennis is the most physically demanding sport of them all (travel, fitness training included).

[SLD76]

Originally Posted by sbengte

^^^ Thanks for sharing that !



Yes, I get that part. What I don't get is why don't we see athletes from other sports also get it assuming they work equally hard. Unless we accept that tennis is the most physically demanding sport of them all (travel, fitness training included).

You're welcome but I didnt write that

wy2sl0 deserves all the credit. I started a thread last week about why so many tennis players seem to get mono, and that was his response.

[SLD76]

Originally Posted by sbengte

^^^ Thanks for sharing that !



Yes, I get that part. What I don't get is why don't we see athletes from other sports also get it assuming they work equally hard. Unless we accept that tennis is the most physically demanding sport of them all (travel, fitness training included).

I think the sheer length of the tennis season has alot to do with it.
There is alot of travel with say professional baseball and basketball. But their seasons are half the length of tennis and it doesnt feature international travel, going from one continent to another.

Baseball goes from april til oct1 for most players. Then an additional month or so for the playoffs and world series. Tennis predates the baseball season by 3 months and lasts one month longer. NBA season is roughly nov-may maybe 1st week of june. Granted, the tennis season starts two months after basketball, but also lasts an extra 6 months.

SO i think the training, competetition and travel can all lead to players immune systems being taxed.

[axel89]

Originally Posted by fedfan46

this sucks. if i can forgive soderling for beating fed at the french in 08 or whenever it was, you know he must be a special player.

2010 lol ****s don't even know anything about their player

[faranell]

any news about the total kamikaze?

[estigma2001]

He suffrers the nadal´s curse next victim Rosol lol!

[NadalAgassi]

It is sad his career seems pretty much ended by illness. He could definitely be in the top 5 today if he were still playing IMO. I am not a fan of his playing style so much but he was always fun to have around as he could take out any of the top guys at a given time. He could have made another slam final and won another Masters, and maybe with a bit of luck won a slam before he retired, but it seems that wont ever happen now. His last half year on tour was pretty good too, didnt he win 4 or 5 small tournaments?