my 10 yr old son hates string movement

[Lakers4Life]

+1 for the Ashaway 100% Zyex Monofilament (MonogutZX), it looks like a poly but plays like gut. Hardly any string movement at all. I have a client testing it out for Ashaway.

The other solution is the String Thing.

[hmd]

Why take the risk? he's only 10.

With mikeler thread help, my 12yo is now playing with PPA in a head speed elite. After 0.5 hour of play even the PPA move a fair bit as he hit with a fair bit of spin. The strings break after average 20 hours of play.

strings movement, cost of restringing are all inconveniences BUT good injury prevention.

[DustinW]

Interesting conversation... thanks for the feedback. I like hearing how different people feel about different strings. I personally dislike multis, because they feel a bit mushy and board-like at the same time... which is weird. And I've only played with gut once and I absolutely hated it. It felt like a board with zero spin.

To answer a few questions:

He is not a string-breaker, although he eventually notches the mains after quite a few hours of play.

He plays 3-6 hrs per week.

He really doesn't complain too much about the string movement. He just makes comments about it and he asked why mine don't move. I play with full Solinco Tour Bite.

I guess I might try a hybrid just to see what he thinks.

[pvaudio]

I urge you not to. He cannot possibly be generating the RHS needed to get the best out of poly. If he's not a string breaker, then you're just going to introduce the possibility of arm problems by him playing with dead poly after a week and a half.

[Muppet]

Straightening the strings is inconvenient, but the real reason he would use poly is because it's cool and grown-up. And he may try to stick with it even if it's not working out.

[WileyCoyote]

For db10s:

When I decide the poly crosses need to be restrung, I mount the racquet in my 6 point machine as near as possible with the mounting clamp settings like they were when I finished the last restring.

I then carefully cut the crosses out, being sure not to nick the gut mains. At this point, I have a main only string bed just like it was when I finished putting in the mains for the first time.

Now I string the crosses just like I would if the mains had just been done. I first check the mains and if I find any notching, I use the side where the notching is less for the crosses to rub/contact this time. Slick poly does not notch nearly as bad as full gut or multi.

When the racquet is unclamped, the tensions on the clamps are just like they were when I mounted the racquet.

I have done this a number of times and have not found a downside yet.

Hope this helps,

Harry

[sundaypunch]

Originally Posted by WileyCoyote

For db10s:

When I decide the poly crosses need to be restrung, I mount the racquet in my 6 point machine as near as possible with the mounting clamp settings like they were when I finished the last restring.

I then carefully cut the crosses out, being sure not to nick the gut mains. At this point, I have a main only string bed just like it was when I finished putting in the mains for the first time.

Now I string the crosses just like I would if the mains had just been done. I first check the mains and if I find any notching, I use the side where the notching is less for the crosses to rub/contact this time. Slick poly does not notch nearly as bad as full gut or multi.

When the racquet is unclamped, the tensions on the clamps are just like they were when I mounted the racquet.

I have done this a number of times and have not found a downside yet.

Hope this helps,

Harry

There are many people here that will tell you this is a bad idea. If you read through all the gut/poly hybrid threads there are a bunch of people that do this all the time and have no problems. I have done it as well and agree with you that there isn't a downside.

[Anton]

Originally Posted by pvaudio

I urge you not to. He cannot possibly be generating the RHS needed to get the best out of poly. If he's not a string breaker, then you're just going to introduce the possibility of arm problems by him playing with dead poly after a week and a half.

nonsense, both the racket head speed and a week and a half comments.

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by Anton

nonsense, both the racket head speed and a week and a half comments.

Oh is it? Pray tell me where I have erred.

[Anton]

Originally Posted by pvaudio

Oh is it? Pray tell me where I have erred.

1. Testing showed increased spin from increased main snap back at even moderate speeds (or no racket head speed at all, so long as the ball is coming it at a non-perpedicular angle to the stringbed).

2. There maybe some polys out there that go "dead" in 1 and half week, but there are many that last a long time without going dead. I have a racket with a year old SP Hyperion string job and it still hits just fine.

[fortun8son]

Try Wilson Red Alert.
Plays well, looks cool, resists movement, arm friendly, but still a syngut.

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by Anton

1. Testing showed increased spin from increased main snap back at even moderate speeds (or no racket head speed at all, so long as the ball is coming it at a non-perpedicular angle to the stringbed).

2. There maybe some polys out there that go "dead" in 1 and half week, but there are many that last a long time without going dead. I have a racket with a year old SP Hyperion string job and it still hits just fine.

You don't read.

1. He is 10. The amount of extra spin he will be generating on his strokes compared to what he would make with a multi is going to have a minimal effect at best, and definitely not one that will trouble opponents. He's not hitting with a lot of spin as it is since he's not breaking strings. If you don't hit with good RHS, you have no real reason to use poly aside from durability.

2. A week and a half for this player is 9 hours. He said he plays 6 hours a week or so. I urge you to find me a poly that isn't dead after ~10hrs of hitting. It just doesn't last that long when you're really hitting the ball. If you aren't hitting very hard and the string lasts much longer, then again: why on earth are you using poly?

[pvaudio]

OP, there is another far more important reason not to use poly at his age. Unless you're already playing the big tournaments, a neutral string that you don't have to think about should be standard issue. Poly has little power compared to multis, and while that may encourage him to swing harder, it also means you have to focus on playing to your string rather than to your technique. Some may argue that it would force him to generate power using his body rather than his arm. He would be learning that anyway.

[TennisCJC]

Yea, an adult 4.0-4.5 who hits moderately hard with moderate to good spin will get 5 to 10 quality hours out of a good poly like SigPro Hyp. You can get another 5-10 hours of practice time but there is a big difference as it will not have the same snap back attribute as new poly. It kind of feels dead, flat or more muted after the first 5-10 hours. If you hit harder with heavy spin, you'll get even fewer hours. I play SigPro Hyperion all the time and that's my experience.

[UCSF2012]

He's 10. He needs the added power of full multi more than he does zero string movement. And learning on synthetics help learn control and perseverance. Learning on multi's are better for a developing player. All these matter more than not having to adjust the strings every once in a while. Do the pros and cons analysis: he should stick to multi's.

[Shangri La]

Gut + ISO speed pro has minimum string movement and is very comfortable.

[dr. godmode]

I grew using poly and an APD and never suffered any arm problems

[NLBwell]

He's 10. He's lucky to have a racket.

[martini1]

Originally Posted by Anton

You can have all three - comfort, spin, and no movement.

Put multi on the main and soft poly on cross ( I use NXT2 main with Hyperion cross).

The poly cross will let the main slide back into place, so no string fixing.

It lasts ok too.

I never tried multi main poly cross. How is it different from the other way around? The poly main should provide more spin and better snap back in the long run since the multi would tend to get loose, no?

[pvaudio]

^^^I think that synthetic mains and poly crosses are a waste of both strings. THe multi simply does not have the elasticity and resiliency of gut. In other words, as you said, the multi starts losing tension so quickly that it doesn't work as planned.