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Old 01-09-2013, 11:23 PM   #81
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Yes, I would... You need to send me the exact layup of both frames, including the resin specs, radial sections every 1/2", size and number of grommet holes, number of stringing jobs, tension and string type, total number of hours played, average swing speed, number of hits to the ground, number of shanked balls, how many times thrown in anger, hours in the trunk of car parked in the sun...
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Easy now, the racquets are not made now out of "worse" graphite. Just less of it, allowed by higher beams and lighter weights, and in some cases higher modulus.
Prices are relatively cheaper then 3 decades ago mostly due to more massive volume and outsourcing to the far east. However, less material plays some rolle, but not to the extent you'd imagine...
Your posts are more concerned about sounding smart than conveying useful information or answering the question. But no matter, we already know about the differences between traditional and modern graphites. It was more a rhetorical question.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:32 PM   #82
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Come to Toronto and find out.
Why? Men have big egos. We all know that. If you use the POG, you do not hit hard. You can, however, potentially cut bigger angles due to the increased time the ball floats. I have the 4 stripe POG, and I noticed a huge drop in power from the recent racquets.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:54 PM   #83
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Your posts are more concerned about sounding smart...
Of course, just like about 50% of people posting in online forums. Other 50% are too busy being jerks, to even sound smart...

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than conveying useful information or answering the question.
Really? I gave you a very practical answer - listed what it takes to make any sort of scientific conclusion. And that's actually not even enough - it would be just the data concerning your 2 particular racquets. Much larger sample would actually be required and testing in controlled environment, like building a machine that would load the racquets over and over, 1000s of times, measurning the flex index at the start and end, or recording the number of cycles that would cause the frame failure. Pretty sure that manufacturers do this, but that data wouldn't be available for your or my use, for sure.

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But no matter, we already know about the differences between traditional and modern graphites.
Do we? All you have are assumptions and your personal observations, from few frames you've got. No scientific data...

On the other hand, what useful information have you given us? Your frame A is better then frame B... Wilson is better then Babolat (your sig)... Poster V can not hit hard, as he uses POG... All opinions - and that's all we've got, unfortunately.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:13 PM   #84
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Hey BlueB

I'm inclined to agree with you.

In addition, if this forum has an "ignore posts" feature, UCSF2012 will be on top of my list.

I've got a Bab Pure Drive and it is more powerful than my POGs although I hit as hard with my POGs, but I'm not about to waste any more time debating UCSF2012. Or read any of his/her posts.
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Technologies/materials do not matter for the simple fact that they must adhere to the laws of physics.
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Technologies/materials do not matter for the simple fact that they must adhere to the laws of physics.Troll verified.
Could you elaborate?
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Technologies/materials do not matter for the simple fact that they must adhere to the laws of physics.
That's all you had to say to suggest you're truely clueless.
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Could you elaborate?
Racquet performance is dependant on specifications. Mass, size, weight distribution, pattern, stiffness etc.
Materials only matter as much as personal preference for feel is concerned but even that is limited because feel can be manipulated much more with the layup, altering stiffness in certain areas etc., which can allow for more of the desired frequencies to pass through to the player's hands.
They're all of the carbon family with sprinkles of marketing magic beans tossed in.
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That's all you had to say to suggest you're truely clueless.
No one is surprised that these matters are beyond your comprehension. Even basic spelling escapes you.
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No one is surprised that these matters are beyond your comprehension. Even basic spelling escapes you.
I don't have to say a thing. No one will agree with you that material doesn't matter at all.

PS - I purposely mispell "racquet" as "racket," because I like the way "racket" looks. I just don't like the way "truly" looks on the screen. Reminds me of "10is," "u there," "wat?,"...etc.
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Racquet performance is dependant on specifications. Mass, size, weight distribution, pattern, stiffness etc.
Materials only matter as much as personal preference for feel is concerned but even that is limited because feel can be manipulated much more with the layup, altering stiffness in certain areas etc., which can allow for more of the desired frequencies to pass through to the player's hands. ...
Thanks for the clarification. Materials/technology, however, do matter if one cares about the feel and comfort.
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